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#31 dohdough

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:30 PM

So the only way I can recover is to use the recovery discs I made? What does a freezer do? There's lots of people on amazon who returned their broken hard drives, are they just being extremely risky

Kinda. If you're going to be using the disks on a broken drive, then you're probably wasting your time though.

As for the freezer trick, I'm not sure how it works, but some people have success with it.

#32 Clak

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:31 PM

If you're going to return it and want a little piece of mind, try to find a really powerful magnet. I'm not talking about a fridge magnet or magnetic screwdriver. The HDD itself has a couple small neodymium magnets in it, but using some larger more powerful ones should wipe the drive. I'm worried about this myself before, sending in a drive for a warranty claim with data still on it. Cause I know that even though the drive is dead those platters still contain the data, and if the drive was fixed they'd still be readable. Just a chance you take I guess.
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#33 metaphysicalstyles

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:59 PM

I have five externals at the moment... all of which are 4+ years old. No failures, and one of the five functions as a frequently accessed NAS (LaCie 2TB).

The only issue I've had is with my Seagate... seems to lose power every so often. Also have a Buffalo and two WD's.
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#34 BigPopov

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:06 PM

Using Windows disc to recover would be good except for missing all the drivers and any programs that came with the PC.

I chose to show hidden files and folders and the recovery drive was still not shown. Every other computer I own shows the D drive next to the C drive.

I'm not worried about recovery files from a bad hard drive but rather someone else gaining access to them if I return it to a store or the manufacturer. What's stopping them from looking at it or using a program to gain access to the files. I'm puzzled how all of these people on amazon are returning their hdds.


Not to sound rude, but most of the stuff they ship with PCs is bullshit anyways. There's maybe only one or two vendor supplied applications I've ever reinstalled, and no client has ever complained or noticed.

Windows 7, by default, will have most of the drivers for the PC including wireless. I very rarely do a fresh install and not have WLAN. If you can connect to Windows Update, it will download most of the remaining ones. Anything not done this way can be downloaded easily from the manuf. The process is a little more time consuming but worth it in the long run.

Even showing hidden files, your recovery will not show up. It is a special configuration that manufacturers have control of to not show the hidden volume. Like I said though, some will show it some won't (this Sony I am working on, for example, does not.)

The easy answer to the HD thing is that there really is no way to guarantee except to keep your HD and physically damage it. But then you are liable for the cost of it.

#35 J7.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:19 AM

Say you get a hard drive and you only put videos you recorded from your tivo or music you either ripped from cd, bought on amazon, or itunes; and the drive dies and you have to send it in - will those files contain any personal data within them?

#36 crunchb3rry

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:11 AM

You can use programs like Crap Cleaner. Just wipe the drive using the secure file deletion options. It even does the Guttman method of 35 passes.

#37 J7.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:26 AM

I would probably still be worried even if I did that, especially given my lack of expertise in this realm. I thought I was overreacting until I read this http://redtape.msnbc...your-hard-drive

#38 crunchb3rry

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:54 AM

Worried about what? If you wiped it like that, the only people that could recover any data would be living in the Matrix. Even the NSA wipes their drives 7 times (as opposed to a ridiculous 35) and considers that enough.

What do you honestly think would get recovered? Identity theft is 100x more effective digging through trash bags. I wouldn't worry. I doubt any elite level hackers buy refurbed drives from Best Buy anyway. They're getting OEM drives from Newegg.

#39 Clak

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 01:45 PM

You can use programs like Crap Cleaner. Just wipe the drive using the secure file deletion options. It even does the Guttman method of 35 passes.

How are you supposed to do that if the drive is dead?;) That would only work if it's still somewhat functional.
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#40 crunchb3rry

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 11:25 PM

Well, if the drive is dead, that's a different issue. Not really much you can do. Still, as long as it's not full of sasquatch porn, I wouldn't worry. A retailer isn't just going to put that right back on the shelf. They probably have regulations for that kind of thing, just to maintain consumer confidence.

#41 J7.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 06:51 AM

Can you recommend any hard drive enclosures? Looking for one with a fan that costs little.

#42 Clak

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 02:45 PM

Well, if the drive is dead, that's a different issue. Not really much you can do. Still, as long as it's not full of sasquatch porn, I wouldn't worry. A retailer isn't just going to put that right back on the shelf. They probably have regulations for that kind of thing, just to maintain consumer confidence.

The problem isn't really with places like Best Buy, it's with the palces that ultimately end up with the drives. Like in that story linked above, the drive was evnetually resold (I assume after being refrubed). If it's just say the board or mechanical parts that are bad, the platters may be left untouched, still containing any data they had. So you could order a refurb drive and find that it still contains data.

Truthfully, if you're really concerned about data being pulled from the drive, just don't send it in for warranty. It sucks, but the truth is you really don't know what happens once you send the drive off.
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#43 Clak

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 02:47 PM

Can you recommend any hard drive enclosures? Looking for one with a fan that costs little.

The enclosures are little more than boxes that hold the drive, I'd just go on a site like newegg and look for something with good reviews and the price you're looking to pay.
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#44 J7.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:55 PM

The enclosures are little more than boxes that hold the drive, I'd just go on a site like newegg and look for something with good reviews and the price you're looking to pay.


Ok. How important is it to get an enclosure with a fan?

#45 BigPopov

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:24 AM

Ok. How important is it to get an enclosure with a fan?


Not very. Unless you're running a Velociraptor in there. And why would you do that?