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#1381 Javery

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:53 PM

LOL at all the Ravens picks. No freaking way it happens.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:08 AM

LOL at all the Ravens picks. No freaking way it happens.

The Ravens have won their last 16 games when Flacco plays all 4 quarters (discounting the Week 17 game against the Bengals) and does NOT turn the ball over.

It's simple: Flacco doesn't turn the ball over, Ravens win.

#1383 blindinglights

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:29 AM

Don't turn the ball over, have better chance of winning. What a novel concept.

I wonder if it works for other teams?! :shock:
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:38 AM

LOL Monte Kiffin, a 72 year old who quit because he didnt want to get fired by his own son. Jerry truly has Dementia

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

I know I'm probably the only Chiefs fan on this site, but for those who care, they are starting to list their coaching changes:

Doug Pedersen (Offensive Coordinator)
Bob Sutton (Defensive Coordinator)
Eric Bieniemy (Running Backs)
Tommy Brasher (Defensive Line)
David Culley (Assistant Head Coach/Wide Receivers)
Tom Melvin (Tight Ends)
Matt Nagy (Quarterbacks)

And while not officially confirmed, apparently John Dorsey is finalizing agreements as their new GM.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

LOL at all the Ravens picks. No freaking way it happens.


I'll pick Ravens every time as I'm a fan. I also hate Peyton Manning with a fucking passion.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:35 AM

Eric Bieniemy (Running Backs)


He had one of the greatest Chris Berman nicknames ever: Eric "Sleeping With" Bieniemy

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:46 AM

LOL at all the Ravens picks. No freaking way it happens.

I'm torn, because one of the quarterbacks is:

0-3 in the playoffs when the temperature is under 40 degrees.
1-3 after a 1st round bye.
4-7 in his 1st game of the playoffs.

And the other is Joe Flacco.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:50 AM

The Ravens have won their last 16 games when Flacco plays all 4 quarters (discounting the Week 17 game against the Bengals) and does NOT turn the ball over.

It's simple: Flacco doesn't turn the ball over, Ravens win.


The Ravens have also won their last 16 games when they scored more points than the other team.

#1390 DNukem170

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:15 AM

Don't turn the ball over, have better chance of winning. What a novel concept.

I wonder if it works for other teams?! :shock:

They don't have a better chance of winning, they DO win. Even Brady has lost games recently without turning the ball over. The only game they truly got beat was the Houston game. Every other game the Ravens made one stupid play that swung the tide away from them. Not to mention they are far healthier than the Denver game, have their best OL configuration, and have 3 of their top tacklers back that didn't play before. And they actually held Manning in check during that game.

Even the Sports Guy is picking the Ravens, as they fufill about 75% of his gambling criteria, though I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing considering Simmons's track record.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:17 AM

http://sports.yahoo....24433--nfl.html

Here's the list of the Class of 2013 finalists in alphabetical order:

Larry Allen: 11-time Pro Bowl guard/tackle for the Dallas Cowboys (1994-2005) and San Francisco 49ers (2006-07) who was named a member of the NFL's All-Decade team for the 1990s and 2000s.

Jerome Bettis: Six-time Pro Bowl running back for the Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams (1993-95) and Pittsburgh Steelers (1996-2005). Ranked fifth all-time with 13,662 rushing yard at the time of his retirement.

Tim Brown: Nine-time Pro Bowl wide receiver/return specialist with the Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders (1988-2003) and Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2004). When Brown retired, he ranked second in NFL history with 14,934 receiving yards and was fifth all-time with 19,682 combined yards.

Cris Carter: Eight-time Pro Bowl wide receiver with the Philadelphia Eagles (1987-89), Minnesota Vikings (1990-2001) and Miami Dolphins (2002). Ranked second in receptions (1,101) and receiving touchdowns (130) at the time of his retirement.

Curley Culp: Six-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle with the Kansas City Chiefs (1968-74), Houston Oilers (1974-80) and Detroit Lions (1980-81).

Edward DeBartolo, Jr.: Owned the San Francisco 49ers from 1977-2000. During that time, the 49ers won 13 division titles, appeared in 10 NFC Championship games and became the first franchise to win five Super Bowls.

Kevin Greene: Five-time Pro Bowl linebacker/defensive end with the Los Angeles Rams (1985-92), Pittsburgh Steelers (1993-95), Carolina Panthers (1996, 1998-99) and San Francisco 49ers (1997). Totaled 160 sacks during his career, which was third-most in league history at the time of his retirement.

Charles Haley: Five-time Pro Bowl linebacker/defensive end with the San Francisco 49ers (1986-91, 1999), Dallas Cowboys (1992-96). Only player in NFL history to play on five Super Bowl winning teams. Finished his career with 100.5 sacks.

Art Modell: Owned the Cleveland Browns from 1961-95 and Baltimore Ravens from 1995-2011. NFL president from 1967-69, played key role in creation of Monday Night Football in 1970.

Jonathan Ogden: 11-time Pro Bowl left tackle for the Baltimore Ravens (1996-2007). Selected as part of the NFL All-Decade team of the 2000s.

Bill Parcells: Head coach of the New York Giants (1983-90), New England Patriots (1993-96), New York Jets (1997-99) and Dallas Cowboys (2003-06). Amassed a 172-130-1 record during the regular season and 11-8 in the post-season. Won two Super Bowls (XXI, XXV) with the Giants and was the first coach to lead four different organizations to the playoffs. NFL Coach of the Year in 1986 and 1994.

Andre Reed: Wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills (1985-99) and Washington Redskins (2000). Selected to seven consecutive Pro Bowls (1989-95) and was third all-time with 951 receptions at the time of his retirement. Remains the Bills' all-time leader with 941 receptions and 13,095 receiving yards.

Dave Robinson: Three-time Pro Bowl linebacker with the Green Bay Packers (1963-72) and Washington Redskins (1973-74). Key member of Packers team that won three NFL championships from 1965-67 and that won Super Bowl I and II. Finished his career with 27 interceptions and was named to the NFL All-Decade team of the 1970s.

Warren Sapp: Seven-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995-2003) and Oakland Raiders (2004-07). Was named the 1999 NFL Defensive Player of the Year and was selected as part of the NFL All-Decade team of the 1990s and 2000s. Finished his career with 96.5 sacks.
Will Shields: 12-time Pro Bowl guard with the Kansas City Chiefs (1993-2006). Started 223 of 224 games and was named to the NFL's All-Decade team of the 2000s.

Michael Strahan: Seven-time Pro Bowl defensive end with the New York Giants (1993-2007). Posted six double-digit sacks seasons, including an NFL single-season record 22.5 in winning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in 2001. Finished his career with 141.5 sacks and was named to the NFL's All-Decade team of the 2000s.

Aeneas Williams: Eight-time Pro Bowl cornerback/safety with the Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals (1991-2000) and St. Louis Rams (2001-04). Played cornerback for 12 seasons, earning seven Pro Bowl nods, before switching to safety, where he would add an eighth Pro Bowl selection. Finished his career with 55 interceptions, nine of which were returned for touchdowns.

It's amazing how different the Hall of Fame situations are for the NFL and MLB right now. The NFL is backlogged with great players waiting to get it while the MLB can't pull the trigger on letting any of their great players in because of conspiracy crap spoiling the whole bunch for their voters.

#1392 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:21 AM

They don't have a better chance of winning, they DO win. Even Brady has lost games recently without turning the ball over. The only game they truly got beat was the Houston game. Every other game the Ravens made one stupid play that swung the tide away from them. Not to mention they are far healthier than the Denver game, have their best OL configuration, and have 3 of their top tacklers back that didn't play before. And they actually held Manning in check during that game.

Even the Sports Guy is picking the Ravens, as they fufill about 75% of his gambling criteria, though I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing considering Simmons's track record.

Your stat also came with a caveat of ignoring the fact that they lost the most recent game where he didn't turn it over, so they can lose those games.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:23 AM

If Modell gets in, he will be the Ron Santos of his class: Should have gone in years ago and won't be able to enjoy his enshrinement. A damn shame.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:30 AM

Your stat also came with a caveat of ignoring the fact that they lost the most recent game where he didn't turn it over, so they can lose those games.

The caveat was because Flacco only played 2 series before being rested. Safe to say Tyrod Taylor isn't likely to get any snaps in this game. If Flacco, played most of the game it would have counted, but you know as well as I do that Week 17 resting only really matters if you're facing the same team the next week.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:37 AM

Unless that Flacco stat is lacking context, I only see 12 straight wins for the Ravens when he's not turned it over, as he lost to the Patriots 13 games ago 23-20 despite 2 TDs, 0 INTs, and no fumbles. Maybe that factoid doesn't count fumbles or Yahoo's gamelogs are wrong somewhere?

Here's the list of games before Week 17 of this year where he's had zero turnovers:

2012
16 Dec 23 NYG W 33-14
12 Nov 25 @ SDG W 16-13
9 Nov 4 @ CLE W 25-15
6 Oct 14 DAL W 31-29
1 Sep 10 CIN W 44-13

2011
Divisional HOU W 20-13
17 Jan 1 @ CIN W 24-16
12 Nov 24 SFO W 16-6
1 Sep 11 PIT W 35-7

2010
15 Dec 19 NOR W 30-24
14 Dec 13 @ HOU W 34-28
9 Nov 7 MIA W 26-10
6 Oct 17 @ NWE L 20-23

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:46 AM

http://sports.yahoo....24433--nfl.html

It's amazing how different the Hall of Fame situations are for the NFL and MLB right now. The NFL is backlogged with great players waiting to get it while the MLB can't pull the trigger on letting any of their great players in because of conspiracy crap spoiling the whole bunch for their voters.


All those names are fine except Michael Strahan. Please, for the love of god, that guy's ego doesn't need another boosting.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:28 AM

Sorry Ray Guy, it's never going to goddamn happen at this rate. You tried, Chris Kluwe.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

Surprised a lot of you are picking the Ravens. Obviously anything can happen but I don't see it.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

My picks:

BAL 13 - DEN 27
HOU 20 - NE 30
SEA 23 - ATL 17
SF 21 - GB 27


What I would like to see happen:

BAL 13 - DEN 30 (Let's get Ray Lewis's career over with already)
HOU 30 - NE 13 (So sick of Belicock)
SEA 17 - ATL 24 (Don't really care about either team but would like to see Tony G win a playoff game and have a chance at a Superbowl before his career is over)
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B -3 (I'm a Bears fan so what can I say? ;) Also like Coach Harbaugh).

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

If Modell gets in, he will be the Ron Santos of his class: Should have gone in years ago and won't be able to enjoy his enshrinement. A damn shame.


You mean the guy who took away Clevelands franchise and went broke in the process? Hes totally comparable to Santo.

#1401 Javery

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:12 PM

I'll pick Ravens every time as I'm a fan. I also hate Peyton Manning with a fucking passion.


I pick the Giants every time for the same reason. Not sure why you hate Manning though - he is awesome.

I'm torn, because one of the quarterbacks is:

0-3 in the playoffs when the temperature is under 40 degrees.
1-3 after a 1st round bye.
4-7 in his 1st game of the playoffs.

And the other is Joe Flacco.


You forgot about him being the best QB of all time with a historically great offense and a running game to lean on for the first time in 7 years.

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#1402 blindinglights

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:17 PM

Not sure why you hate Manning though - he is awesome.



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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

Maybe he just can't stand looking at his Frankenstein head :lol:.


Well that's a fair point. :D

I have irrational hatred for players too but I can appreciate the greats. I hate Handsome Tawmmy Brady but he is damn good and fun to watch (especially when he is getting pressured all game hahaha).

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

How does one hate Peyton Manning with a passion? I have no problem with Brady either. You can be envious of his life but I can't bother to hate any player. I'm not one of those people that sanctifies players either, none of us have even met them. They could be total ass holes.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

The best game of the weekend should be SF-Green Bay. Those teams are the closest to each other on paper, while the stats tell us that Denver, New England and Seattle should all be pretty good bets to win. They don't play the games on paper of course.

Edit: Just to clarify what "stats" I'm talking about, I usually find Football Outsiders' DVOA rankings to be a very good metric of how "good" a team is relative to the rest of the league. That tells us that Seattle, Denver and New England are all fantastic teams; Green Bay and San Francisco are very good; and the other three are good but not great. That gels with what my eyes tell me as well having watched all these teams.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

I have irrational hatred for players


The only player I "hate" is Bernard Pollard, but that's completely rational. :D

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

How does one hate Peyton Manning with a passion? I have no problem with Brady either. You can be envious of his life but I can't bother to hate any player. I'm not one of those people that sanctifies players either, none of us have even met them. They could be total ass holes.


I think both Manning's are great quarterbacks but I can't help but thinking they might have an extra chromosome (trisomy 21).

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

I love DVOA... and most advanced football/baseball stats - nerd alert!

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

The only player I "hate" is Bernard Pollard, but that's completely rational. :D


He has a knack for injuring New England players, Took Brady, Welker, and Gronkowski out. Its just baffeling how one player can take out a teams top 3 players to serious injuries. I feel your pain, I'm a Patriots fan too.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:48 PM

I love DVOA... and most advanced football/baseball stats - nerd alert!


DVOA also says Baltimore's biggest advantage in this game is Special Teams... So we can already see it's not perfect. :D

By the way, nobody does the "throw a pop-up and pray for a flag" better than Flacco. He's like the Johnny Unitas of that.

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