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#271 mvp828

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

Yeah, everyone I play with is lower in this game. There is supposedly skill based matchmaking thrown in now as well, too. Honestly I think it's just all the bullshit the game has right now. The connections, the super powerful hipfire smgs, and the terrible spawns all mix together for shit K/Ds. I was at about a 1.6 in BO2, (which shouldn't happen when I'm at a 2.5 or above in every single other COD game) and the lag pissed me off so bad I just reset my stats one day. Right now I'm like a level 22 and have no intention of playing for a while.


I thought the skill based was just for league play? Which actually is a pretty good matchmaking system. A few of us have done that, and it is fun because it is competitive, everyone has access to every weapon, attachment, perk, scorestreak, etc. Also in the one that requires a full team Care Package is not allowed so it keeps you from getting screwed by some idiot who can only get a few kills and then proceed to get VTOL Warships, Lodestars, and AGRs from care packages.

I was actually thinking about doing a reset after awhile. I did one in MW3 when I hit 15th Prestige (before they made it 20). I think in that I was at a 1.8x something before doing the reset, then after the reset went to 10th with a 2.2 and then got bored and just started playing more reckless and dropped to a 1.9x by the time I switched to Medal of Honor. The only thing with this is that I don't really want to have to unlock some of the things I have already unlocked (Scavenger, Ghost, and C4 after this prestige).

EDIT: In regards to the previous talks about Ghost... I did some tests last night and here is what I noticed:
- You are invisible when LS is all the way forward and sprint is or isn't being used.
- When ADS, if you are moving you are still invisible (not sure if it is because I was sprinting right beforehand or not), and again I had LS pushed all the way in the direction I was going.
- Once you stop moving it takes about 2 seconds for Ghost to turn off

Here is the setup I was using when I did this:
PDW-57 w/ Silencer and MMS
Ghost/Scavenger/Hardline/Extreme Conditioning

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#272 The 7th Number

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

Yeah i remember going 7-2 before the host migrated, after that i couldnt get any kills, being shot before i see people, my shots going right through them, i think i ended the game negative. I love to run and gun in hardcore TDM, but in this game its damn near impossible unless i want to go negative. Only way i can get a good KD is if i camp or use a sniper.

I was wondering if uninstalling the game, or downloading the nuketown 2025 map would change my lag any, i doubt it but thought i would ask here.

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#273 Trakan

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

I thought the skill based was just for league play? Which actually is a pretty good matchmaking system. A few of us have done that, and it is fun because it is competitive, everyone has access to every weapon, attachment, perk, scorestreak, etc. Also in the one that requires a full team Care Package is not allowed so it keeps you from getting screwed by some idiot who can only get a few kills and then proceed to get VTOL Warships, Lodestars, and AGRs from care packages.

I was actually thinking about doing a reset after awhile. I did one in MW3 when I hit 15th Prestige (before they made it 20). I think in that I was at a 1.8x something before doing the reset, then after the reset went to 10th with a 2.2 and then got bored and just started playing more reckless and dropped to a 1.9x by the time I switched to Medal of Honor. The only thing with this is that I don't really want to have to unlock some of the things I have already unlocked (Scavenger, Ghost, and C4 after this prestige).


I'm convinced that skill based matchmaking plays at least a small factor in regular matchmaking as well. I was running into way more full parties and way less low level people in BO2. I think I ran into maybe one or two guests in like a day of playtime. I've heard it's based off SPM, but I don't know.

#274 woodcan

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

I just wish that they had the "locale" option for match-matching come back. The "laggy" matches I've experienced pretty much always look to be when playing foreigners that get host. I wonder if they took that out to expand the player-base for non-US players.

Personally, I'm not as much concerned with K/D anymore as I was in the past (still matters to me, just not as much and I'm at about 1.6 K/D or so). What does matter to me is playing on a team with team-work and winning. That goes for both TDM and objective modes. What aggravates me the most is getting shot in the back after someone else was just killed and they don't warn me (it takes a second for a team-mates arrow to disappear on mini-map) OR calling out that I am taking an objective and have nobody join me or even cover me.

I thought I remember MW3 being OK at the beginning and then drastically going down-hill for me with crap connections and BS deaths. From day 1 the spawns were crap and never improved. I didn't like any of the on-disc maps and it wasn't until some of the last maps that I actually enjoyed the game a little more again. My opinion is that MW3 maps are very illogical and very poorly designed.
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#275 Trakan

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

I thought I remember MW3 being OK at the beginning and then drastically going down-hill for me with crap connections and BS deaths. From day 1 the spawns were crap and never improved. I didn't like any of the on-disc maps and it wasn't until some of the last maps that I actually enjoyed the game a little more again. My opinion is that MW3 maps are very illogical and very poorly designed.


I agree about the maps. I ended up liking a few, but for the most part they were awful. I downloaded a couple of the DLC maps and thought they were even worse than the disc ones. So much so that even though I paid for year of elite and had access to every map pack, I just skipped them. The thing with the spawns in MW3 is that I don't think they're fixable. The maps are so small and designed so poorly that no matter how much tweaking they did to the spawns, there would always be someone spawning near someone else.

That being said, BO2's maps make me appreciate MW3's maps more.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:46 PM

Can somebody post a few good newbie loadouts? I am kind of new to the Blops games I really havent played a lot of COD on-line since World at War was popular.
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#277 woodcan

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:46 PM

The discussion of K/D got me thinking so I just logged into ELITE to compare my K/D over applicable games.
Black Ops: 2.52
MW3: 1.91
Black Ops 2: 1.54

Granted, I have been playing much more objective game modes in Black Ops 2 vs TDM from Black Ops 1.

EDIT: In regards to the previous talks about Ghost... I did some tests last night and here is what I noticed:
- You are invisible when LS is all the way forward and sprint is or isn't being used.
- When ADS, if you are moving you are still invisible (not sure if it is because I was sprinting right beforehand or not), and again I had LS pushed all the way in the direction I was going.
- Once you stop moving it takes about 2 seconds for Ghost to turn off

Here is the setup I was using when I did this:
PDW-57 w/ Silencer and MMS
Ghost/Scavenger/Hardline/Extreme Conditioning


Maybe they changed ghost with the last patch for SMGs. I'll have to try again with SMGs but definitely still the case with Assault Rifles and LMGs when I tried this past weekend. Unless it has something to do with the speed at which you are moving while ADS.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:22 AM

This is the biggest turd of a game I've played in a long, long time. It's like they took every good decision from Blops and did the exact opposite for this one. Terrible, terrible maps, spawn killing galore, dat lag compensation, the return of quickscoping, steady aim lasers that no longer require the use of a perk on top of the innate abilities of smgs, buffed pistols and stun grenades that no one asked for, and worst of all, they ruined zombies. This shit has put me off COD for good I think -- as if activison cares.

But hey, at least we got shoutcasting, right guys? :roll::roll::roll::roll:

Edited by panda911, 28 November 2012 - 07:35 AM.


#279 The 7th Number

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

Got the gold riot shield last night, so now im gunna try to get the diamond one. I need to get gold in Balistic Knife, Combat Knife, and Crossbow and ill unlock diamond for all of those.

Tried to upload another video, this one showed up at 4 seconds long. I dont know why the video uploader is broken, but 2 of 6 tries have actually came out okay, the rest always show up 1-4 seconds long... and this after waiting like 15 minutes for it to upload. -_-

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#280 woodcan

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

Got the gold riot shield last night, so now im gunna try to get the diamond one. I need to get gold in Balistic Knife, Combat Knife, and Crossbow and ill unlock diamond for all of those.

Tried to upload another video, this one showed up at 4 seconds long. I dont know why the video uploader is broken, but 2 of 6 tries have actually came out okay, the rest always show up 1-4 seconds long... and this after waiting like 15 minutes for it to upload. -_-


Hmm, this is the first I hear of the "Diamond" camo. I must look into this as I have 3 Gold Guns at the moment.

I haven't tried any video uploads yet but have tried some video editing with mixed results. First few times the game/my system just seemed to hang. Last time I got frustrated that they seemed to have taken out that alternate control scheme where you had d-pad control of the playback so didn't finish to the point of uploading.

EDIT: Nice, I'll have to start working towards the Diamond camo unlocks. Looks like you have to unlock Gold camo for all weapons in a weapon class.
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#281 The 7th Number

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

I am missing 5 camos for combat knife. Seriously for one camo they want you to kill someone with the combat knife, then kill them again with their own weapon! That sounds seriously hard, even if it is only 5 times. Also for another combat knife camo you have to get 5 bloodthirsty medals, which is 5 kills without dying. Good luck with that!

For the crossbow im up to 181/300 kills before it opens up the additional challenges for the rest of the camos.

Can you unlock emblems in combat training? I really want the reaper emblem so i can make a sons of anarchy logo. But you need to get 25 kills without dying. -_-

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#282 woodcan

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:05 PM

7th, are you still playing mostly Hardcore? Those blood-thirty medals may just be that much harder on HC TDM given the extra damage guns do. I just two nights ago setup a custom class with tactical knife only and have gotten a couple blood-thirsty medals. (haven't unlocked the camo challenge yet though). I do find knifing much harder in this game because it seems to miss a lot. I think the launcher multi-kills are going to be a PITA though since I find it hard enough to kill a single person with the SMAW on top of the fact that it has 1 shot.

Also, I originally thought the double-kills required for the Sniper rifles were for 2 kills with 1 bullet but it's just 2 quickly subsequent kills (AFAIK). I did find at least with the sniper rifles it's much easier to get multiple kills with a single bullet using FMJ (I got a triple-kill one-shot on Nuketown the other night using FMJ). Unlocking the camos for the first sniper rifle is going really slooow though since unless it's a direct headshot or an injured person it's at least 2 hits/kill. I might have to play some HC TDM for those :-(
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

I'm finally happy with my emblem...

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#284 panda911

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:09 PM

I'm finally happy with my emblem...


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Also, I feel like black hats are backwards. They should immediately blow up betties, claymores, and shock charges to deter camping, while taking control of equipment like sentries, UAVs, AGRs, and guardians. That makes sense to me.

#285 The 7th Number

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

7th, are you still playing mostly Hardcore? Those blood-thirty medals may just be that much harder on HC TDM given the extra damage guns do. I just two nights ago setup a custom class with tactical knife only and have gotten a couple blood-thirsty medals. (haven't unlocked the camo challenge yet though). I do find knifing much harder in this game because it seems to miss a lot. I think the launcher multi-kills are going to be a PITA though since I find it hard enough to kill a single person with the SMAW on top of the fact that it has 1 shot.

Also, I originally thought the double-kills required for the Sniper rifles were for 2 kills with 1 bullet but it's just 2 quickly subsequent kills (AFAIK). I did find at least with the sniper rifles it's much easier to get multiple kills with a single bullet using FMJ (I got a triple-kill one-shot on Nuketown the other night using FMJ). Unlocking the camos for the first sniper rifle is going really slooow though since unless it's a direct headshot or an injured person it's at least 2 hits/kill. I might have to play some HC TDM for those :-(


For killing people with combat/balistic knife im doing it in core TDM because often i can run through the fire and kill them. Yes its annoying, especially when you get the stabbing animation 1-3 times and they dont die. For the crossbow ive been doing it in hardcore TDM. Ive given up on the combat knife for now and im working on crossbow and balistic knife.

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#286 LinkinPrime

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

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I'm on my phone...sorry.

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#287 The 7th Number

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:27 AM

Well i managed to get 5 kills in a row without dying with the ballistic knife. Was able to do them both in the first 2 games after i got home from shopping. Funny thing is that i got the ballistic knife master card and gold camo after i only did it once. So I had gold camo but not the skull camo. I had the gold camo for the SVU-AS sniper but not the skulls for that either, but it somehow looks like it fixed itself.

Glad i was able to get the gold for ballistic knife, because im about to prestige, but i can prestige and then use my free token on the crossbow, since i will have the combat knife from the start. I still need 4 kill enemy with combat knife.. then again with the weapon they drop. Also need to get 4 blood thirsty medals with combat knife. Its kind of hard, but once i get 2-3 kills in a row i try to camp with shock charges so i can stun them and then rush and stab them.

Oh and here is my new emblem... Lag Ops II wasnt cutting it anymore.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:54 AM

So I like BLOPS 2 MP but not in love with it the way I was with the 1st game. Still it is way more enjoyable for me than MW3 ever was. I just finished the SP and I have to say I was really disappointed. The story was pretty meh and the villain was just not that intriguing to me. They tried to give him a motivation but in the end it seemed so contrived and stretched beyond reason to really accept. I did find it hilarious when you find out
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. I liked BLOPS SP even if it was predictable. In all honesty the last SP COD game I loved was MW2. The last 3 have just been ok. Don't get me started on Strike Force. I was so excited for something new to only be instantly turned off by the execution. Overall the MP is a 9/10, the single player 7/10 and the zombies TBD.

#289 The 7th Number

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:42 AM

Well the only thing that is stopping me from getting diamond camo on my combat knife, ballistic knife, riot shield, and crossbow is two crossbow challenges.

1. Get 1 bloodthirsty medal using only the crossbow.
I might have to wait until i unlock scavenger before i can do this, since the bow only has 6 shots in it.

2. Get a kill with every round in a clip from your crossbow.
I hope this means 3 kills, and not 6. The most i had was 2 so far. If i have to wait to unlocked shockcharges so when the enemy gets shocked i can shoot the bow and blow them up easy.

But the lag in this game is getting annoying with these challenges. Last few games guys are moving really slow or standing dead still and im aiming right in their bodies and somehow my shots are going past them. Or my favorite, i shoot my bow, get killed, and my shot somehow disappears.

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#290 dennisb407

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:41 PM

The knifing is kinda janky in this game. I was behind a sniper and I swear I swiped like 3 times before I made contact lol. The opposing team hates my emp grenades on Hardpoint, destroying all their equipment and especially their sentry guns and guardians haha

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:41 PM

Yup, knifing is broken.

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#292 raiden_86

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:16 PM

Can you use your prestige unlock token for perks? I used it on the last assault rifle, but I didn't check if you could use it on perks.

#293 The 7th Number

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:37 PM

Can you use your prestige unlock token for perks? I used it on the last assault rifle, but I didn't check if you could use it on perks.


Pretty sure you can use it on anything, first thing i used it on was Ghost perk. 2nd time i used it on crossbow.

Damn man, i got the kill someone with each bullet in a clip for the crossbow. Killed one, then two, then i camped knowing i only needed 1 more kill. All of a sudden 3 guys starting rushing into my building so i fired. I got the 3rd kill and 4th kill, but then ran out of bullets in my crossbow to try to get the bloodthirsty medal. If only i had scavenger perk i could have gotten more arrows. I ended up killing like 9 or 10 in that building before i died, but only 4 were with my crossbow, the rest were with the knife. The bloodthirsty medal is the only one i need for crossbow to unlock diamond, but thats going to be hard without scavenger perk, and i cant unlock that until im level 44 and im only level 22 right now. :(

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#294 mvp828

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:38 PM

Can you use your prestige unlock token for perks? I used it on the last assault rifle, but I didn't check if you could use it on perks.


Yes... I used my first three on Scavenger, Ghost, and then C4.

#295 raiden_86

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:55 PM

Thanks for the info guys. really wanted Ghost unlocked, but I'll do that next time

#296 The 7th Number

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:50 PM

Finally did it. Got 5 kills with the crossbow in only 6 shots. Thank GOD!!!!! That was so annoying to try to do. I got a little help since i shot a guy running an RC Car, and another one camping. But the last 3 shots were good. Helped that i put the zoom scope on the crossbow. So now i can diamond camo for all specials. :) Now i just have to get to level 34 again to unlock the riot shield and show it off. lol.

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#297 dennisb407

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:01 AM

Finally did it. Got 5 kills with the crossbow in only 6 shots. Thank GOD!!!!! That was so annoying to try to do. I got a little help since i shot a guy running an RC Car, and another one camping. But the last 3 shots were good. Helped that i put the zoom scope on the crossbow. So now i can diamond camo for all specials. :) Now i just have to get to level 34 again to unlock the riot shield and show it off. lol.



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#298 woodcan

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:00 PM

Finally did it. Got 5 kills with the crossbow in only 6 shots. Thank GOD!!!!! That was so annoying to try to do. I got a little help since i shot a guy running an RC Car, and another one camping. But the last 3 shots were good. Helped that i put the zoom scope on the crossbow. So now i can diamond camo for all specials. :) Now i just have to get to level 34 again to unlock the riot shield and show it off. lol.


Congrats, I'm sure the Diamond Riot shield looks friggin' awesome. I swear I have no luck with the ballistic knife and Crossbow outside of Gun Game. I haven't looked but do the ballistic knife kills have to be shots or does knifing count as well?

I'm over half-way done with unlocking the Diamond LMGs. The SVU Sniper and 2nd & 4th Shotguns are proving to be a real PITA for 1-shot kills in core. I don't think I can stand trying to do them in HC TDM since it's such a slow, camping, yawn-fest.
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#299 The 7th Number

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:46 PM

Congrats, I'm sure the Diamond Riot shield looks friggin' awesome. I swear I have no luck with the ballistic knife and Crossbow outside of Gun Game. I haven't looked but do the ballistic knife kills have to be shots or does knifing count as well?


Stabbing and shooting it both count, and once you unlock the 5 extra camo challenges you have to stab 25 people, and shoot and retrieve a blade and then kill someone with it 25 times. Its not that bad as it sounds though. I would shoot it into a wall then get it back and then try to kill someone. Didnt take me that long. I just played in core, there you can see the ballistic reticle and it makes it easier to run up and kill someone.

What i think is annoying is when you unlock those 5 last camos and its a challenge you probably have done already. Like i remember the combat knife, i think i needed 5 or so backstabber, but i already got a reward for backstabbing 25 people before i even unlocked that camo challenge. So its kind of dumb making you do it again. Im sure i would have had less bloodthirsty medals to get if they counted before the camo challenge was available for whatever weapon.

Anyway, i really like this game, and it would be fun to rank up every gun, and get diamond skins on everything. But the lag is so annoying it just makes me frustrated every match. I can be on a roll, and then either they spawn behind me or i get killed before i even see the enemy. It really ruins the enjoyment of the game, and i think im going to sell it. I mean why should i keep playing a game that im constantly feeling like its not my fault im dying? I shoot first, and i die first. Sometimes i just die and i dont even hear a gun shoot at all. Worst lag ive dealt with since gears of war 2.

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#300 The 7th Number

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

Is there a date you have to use the nuketown 2025 map by? I didnt see anything on the paper with the code.

BTW im looking to sell my code if anyone is interested.

Edited by The 7th Number, 03 December 2012 - 09:58 PM.

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