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#4681 Monoxide1986

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:14 PM

Are we talking about Video Games or Politics...?

Because you can take your politics and get the Fuck out of here! :twoguns:

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:18 PM

These numbers are fairly publicized if you read the news much. Within the first 5 years we had killed 1.8 million civs, so it has slowed down due to pressure from their governments, but its still completely out of line, and far, far beyond the innocent casualties in any other war we have been a part of.


I don't think you read my entire comment. just in WW2, there were between 1.8 and 3 million German civilian casualties. Just in Germany. then in the Korean war, there were 1.5 million civilian casualties. 1.8 isn't exactly far far beyond that.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:19 PM

I'm not sure if you're actually being serious here, but its pretty different. I'm sure civilians died in Nazi Germany, but we didn't target them the way we are in the middle east. They were a military power in uniform, not just a few thousand dudes living on the outskirts of society.

There are probably less than 10,000 members of Al Qaeda and Taliban combined, and we have killed over 3 million people over there. We have lost far less than a tenth of that number, so no, it isn't retaliation for killing our countrymen. Its a fairly systematic issue of murdering anyone they feel is too close for comfort.

I'm not saying fighting in Afghanistan in the game is wrong, hell I bought it near launch. I just think scenes like destroying the village while Linkin Park blares from the speakers and your in game teammates are laughing it up are just disgusting no matter how you frame it.

Beyond that, the gameplay is fucking hilariously bad, so im not sure why anyone wants to have this conversation.


Why do you assume we are targeting civilians just because civilians have died? You are the one who stereotyping. You accuse Americans and the US Military of killing because of ethnicity, but you are just grouping people into a group that fits your way of thinking when you do that which is not much different than you accuse others of doing.

I do agree that war should not be over-glorified, but I also think that you can have fun with the concept of war without trying to turn it into an educational or moral exercise. People should be able to seperate reality from art or entertainment. It is not the responsiblity of a game maker to judge when people can or cannot do that.

As for the gameplay, I somewhat enjoyed it. But what do I know. I am just an ignorant fool who thinks all Arabic people hide bombs in their shirts. :)

Quite frankly, I don't pay attention to the story or even the setting that much in shooters and barely even remember it being about middle eastern people. When I play a shooter, I am just trying to kill the bad guys.

When they introduce a game that is focused on killing middle easterners because of their ethnicity and not because they are the bad guys who happen to be middle eastern, I will be right there agreeing with you on it being a horrible game.

#4684 waldo21212

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:23 PM

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Seems to be as good a place as any.


All you guys can shove your soap boxes up there while you are at it.

I bit on it, hopefully I get my $10 worth out of it - not sure if I'll touch the MP though.

#4685 kilik64

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:15 PM

Wow Xbox version is oos all around me. Oh well...

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 08:18 PM

I actually like the Medal of Honor game, the campaign was fun and what little I did play of the MP was good. Definitely giving the next one a chance too.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 08:27 PM

Only thing I liked about MOH, was the campaign. I beat it, played the MP for 2 days and sold it on the 3rd day after release day.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 08:59 PM

The Nazis were legitimately evil and we were not in Europe targeting civilians. We helped a lot of countries out there. The old MOH games didn't glorify war so much as they entrenched you in a story that paralleled the war around you.

Our armed forces have killed well over 3 million civilians in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. If that doesn't sound like much to you, I don't even know what to say. These weren't accidents, these were people targeted because of how they look and dress. That's why I take a little offense to destroying an entire city in the game, even if they tell me its 100% Taliban.

As you can see from the other reply, we actually have people in the US ignorant enough to think that the entire middle east are terrorists.


It's not worth going into details when a mod will delete all this soon, so I'll keep this short:
- implying Taliban not evil? Suggest looking up what they've done to the Afghan people, not to mention harboring a known terrorist group (Al Qaeda and UBL) leading up to 9/11.
- what evidence for targeting civilians in Afghanistan, other than isolated criminal incidents (Bales)? As for Europe, if you don't think attacks were executed with little regard for civilian life, if not targeting, look up Dresden.
- don't know about your 3 million number, but I wouldn't accuse "rednecks" of painting the Middle East with a broad brush and then conflate Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. This game is about Afghanistan. UN figures show 3,100 civilian deaths by pro-government forces from 2007-2011 (vs. 8,500 by anti-government forces). Don't have the figures for 2001-2006, but I'm confident it's orders of magnitude under even 1 million.

I don't know how you quantify "much" but the population is 30 million. Watch any documentary about the war and you'll see that one of the challenges is the Taliban forces look and dress like the civilians. If we targeted people "because of how they look and dress," there would hardly be anyone left in Afghanistan.

I'd suggest some education, like this:
http://www.nytimes.c...fghanistan.html
but then again, the NY Times are a bunch of rednecks, right?

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

It's not worth going into details when a mod will delete all this soon, so I'll keep this short:
- implying Taliban not evil? Suggest looking up what they've done to the Afghan people, not to mention harboring a known terrorist group (Al Qaeda and UBL) leading up to 9/11.
- what evidence for targeting civilians in Afghanistan, other than isolated criminal incidents (Bales)? As for Europe, if you don't think attacks were executed with little regard for civilian life, if not targeting, look up Dresden.
- don't know about your 3 million number, but I wouldn't accuse "rednecks" of painting the Middle East with a broad brush and then conflate Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. This game is about Afghanistan. UN figures show 3,100 civilian deaths by pro-government forces from 2007-2011 (vs. 8,500 by anti-government forces). Don't have the figures for 2001-2006, but I'm confident it's orders of magnitude under even 1 million.

I don't know how you quantify "much" but the population is 30 million. Watch any documentary about the war and you'll see that one of the challenges is the Taliban forces look and dress like the civilians. If we targeted people "because of how they look and dress," there would hardly be anyone left in Afghanistan.

I'd suggest some education, like this:
http://www.nytimes.c...fghanistan.html
but then again, the NY Times are a bunch of rednecks, right?

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:23 PM

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#4691 RollingSkull

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:31 PM

I keep saying it, but MoH was a great fun war shooter. Enjoyed it for being CoD but without the try-hard lingo-spam of the MW games or the bullcrap difficulty of each game's ridiculous set piece battle. Enjoyed how tonally it portrayed the military as a bunch of professionals. Was a little almost too dry and sedate but I enjoyed it.

I think the score attack mode was a little poorly done, with no ability to skip the scripted bits, but I really enjoyed it.

Plus if playing it pisses off people like Mr. 3 Million, then hey, that's a huge plus.

#4692 IAmTheCheapestGamer

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:36 AM

I keep saying it, but MoH was a great fun war shooter. Enjoyed it for being CoD but without the try-hard lingo-spam of the MW games or the bullcrap difficulty of each game's ridiculous set piece battle. Enjoyed how tonally it portrayed the military as a bunch of professionals. Was a little almost too dry and sedate but I enjoyed it.

I think the score attack mode was a little poorly done, with no ability to skip the scripted bits, but I really enjoyed it.

That's why I'd probably play that Matt Hazard game for PS3 before I play another MW or Battlefield game. Albeit I liked the humor in the first Bad Company game, but the second one was more serious imo than the first, which turned me off even finishing the title.:-#

Plus if playing it pisses off people like Mr. 3 Million, then hey, that's a huge plus.

:applause:People often forget that games are about having fun and everything doesn't have to be taken so serious.:roll: I don't care about the politics of the world when playing a game or how factually correct a game or game world is as long as I'm having fun playing it.;)

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#4693 Royal High Knight

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:45 AM

Got my looney tunes blu ray today. Didnt know a 52 page artbook was in the collection so that made this purchase that more sweeter :)

#4694 sp00ge

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:02 AM

That's why I'd probably play that Matt Hazard game for PS3 before I play another MW or Battlefield game. Albeit I liked the humor in the first Bad Company game, but the second one was more serious imo than the first, which turned me off even finishing the title.:-#

:applause:People often forget that games are about having fun and everything doesn't have to be taken so serious.:roll: I don't care about the politics of the world when playing a game or how factually correct a game or game world is as long as I'm having fun playing it.;)


I hated Bad Company. It was funny, but I got to my breaking point when it was obvious the AI wasn't actually AI and I just got aggravated and quit.. At one point, I was behind a building, and no matter where I was behind it, the computer gunner would track me and take me down as soon as I stepped away, from either side. Bullshit, unless that guy had xray vision...


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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:07 AM

That's why I'd probably play that Matt Hazard game for PS3 before I play another MW or Battlefield game. Albeit I liked the humor in the first Bad Company game, but the second one was more serious imo than the first, which turned me off even finishing the title.:-#

:applause:People often forget that games are about having fun and everything doesn't have to be taken so serious.:roll: I don't care about the politics of the world when playing a game or how factually correct a game or game world is as long as I'm having fun playing it.;)



Don't do it! That Matt Hazard game was just bad...not funny bad, just bad.

I second the thoughts on MOH as being a good gaming experience. Those that rate it well below COD don't know what they're talking about.

#4696 TaylorM06

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:14 AM

Got my looney tunes blu ray today. Didnt know a 52 page artbook was in the collection so that made this purchase that more sweeter :)


Mine technically came in yesterday, but I didn't check the mail until this morning :)

#4697 GamerDude316

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:22 AM

I'm surprised this went OOS online so quick, had hoped to snag a copy after work but looks like I missed out.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:27 AM

might be the wrong thread but...

Those damn MW3 earbuds DO randomly change the volume on your iphone!

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#4699 RollingSkull

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:33 AM

The Matt Hazard game, I... I don't even remember if I beat it. It certainly wasn't good. I think I rage quit at the sniper boss level nonsense and just youtubed the rest of the game. It's not especially funny... not BAD but it isn't really worth a lot of laughs.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:36 AM

Got my looney tunes blu ray today. Didnt know a 52 page artbook was in the collection so that made this purchase that more sweeter :)


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Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:16 AM

Not the Bad Boys I was hoping for. :)
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#4702 CaoPi

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:25 AM

God, what a horrible selection for those blu rays

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#4703 TaylorM06

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:36 AM

If you purchase The Condemned...Kill yourself...

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:25 PM

That's a pretty terrible sale. Really, really bad. The Condemned is the only one I've heard of. As a rule, I don't buy movies starring wrestlers not named "The Rock" and even then it's only after careful consideration and a rental first.

#4705 TaylorM06

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:52 PM

That's a pretty terrible sale. Really, really bad. The Condemned is the only one I've heard of. As a rule, I don't buy movies starring wrestlers not named "The Rock" and even then it's only after careful consideration and a rental first.


Condemned is worse than The Marine with whatever wrestler was in that one. And The Marine was TERRIBLE, this was the movie:

*Bad acting* *EXPLOSION!* *More bad acting* *MORE EXPLOSIONS*

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:09 PM

That's a pretty terrible sale. Really, really bad. The Condemned is the only one I've heard of. As a rule, I don't buy movies starring wrestlers not named "The Rock" and even then it's only after careful consideration and a rental first.


The Condemned is kinda sorta like Battle Royale. Just more American. And has Stone Cold Steve Austin, and since I grew up watching the guy he made it cool. It's a decent movie for 5 bucks on blu.

#4707 Gregtastic

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:56 PM

The Condemned is kinda sorta like Battle Royale. Just more American. And has Stone Cold Steve Austin, and since I grew up watching the guy he made it cool. It's a decent movie for 5 bucks on blu.


I saw the Condemned when it came out in the theater. Was a decent movie. I go with the old Blockbuster rule on stuff. If you haven't seen it, spend the $5 and check it out. If you HAVE seen it then you probably know if you want it or not.

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#4708 thisguy101

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

the condemned is nothing to brag about but it can be worth 5 bucks because I've seen worse movies get sold for more. Angel Heart is one of Mickey Rourke best films. I just ordered Angel Heart...Out of all those movies i would highly recommend Angle Heart especially for 5 bucks

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:15 PM

Angel Heart and Bad Lieutenant are both excellent movies. I'd strongly recommend either of these to anyone with a taste for gritty and disturbing films.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:23 PM

Horrible selection Of blu rays if they can even be called a selection.
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