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#1 The Crotch

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:30 PM

HAHAHA Fuck trees. This thread is now about Obsidian's next RPG.



"It’s not as if people stopped wanting games like Icewind Dale or Baldur’s Gate, it was more that BioWare moved on as a studio and Black Isle went away. I hear from people all the time that they run out of the newer games to play and go back and play Baldur’s Gate 2 or Torment for the fifth or sixth time."

"Our goal is to use voice over as flavor and not as something that exists for every written word in the game."

"[A] huge focus on support abilities and not just combat ones."

"The system itself (real-time with pause) works great for robust RPG systems that have a lot of moving parts and encourage the player to not just throw their characters at the enemy, but to think tactically. I always love the big battles in Baldur’s Gate 2 – the felt like puzzles that I had to crack in order to win with a minimum of casualties on my side."

"When we looked at whether to go the Icewind Dale route or the Torment / Baldur’s Gate route, we felt the latter tied much better into the focus we are going to put into the story and character development. We want the central character to be one that players will hopefully not just play through Project Eternity with, but into sequels as well. Like Torment and Baldur’s Gate, players will find companions to join their party – crafted by the incredible talents of Chris Avellone and Josh Sawyer."

Give money, you bastards.

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#2 dothog

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

Watching the vid in the OP, I imagine a vast battle between unwashed hippie stink and the acrid, woodsy tang of pine and spruce.

A battle with no survivors.

RIP THE CROTCH. He lived with a heart full of wonder and died with a nose full of patchouli.
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#3 Indignate

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

Stop trying to make this thread about your great deeds!

#4 R. Kasahara

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:28 PM

Stop trying to make this thread about your great deeds!

I read that as "great deals". I've been on CAG too long, methinks.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what does the title have to do with RPGs?

Speaking of which, near the end of Izuna 2. Short game, but good. There's too many party member options, though.

Also, I haven't touched Persona 3 in at least a week. Currently in the fall semester in that game.
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#5 The Crotch

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:10 PM

Thread title has nothing to do with RPGs. I hope. That would be a terrible fucking RPG.

I made the title what it is because...

Stop trying to make this thread about your great deeds!

... it's just god damn weird to me that the one fucking time I actually have internet access, the old thread is locked and nobody is making a new one.

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#6 lolwhat

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:21 PM

Crotch! We have so much to talk about!

Like how awful Diablo 3 ended up.

#7 The Crotch

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:42 PM

Hit me, panzer.

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#8 lolwhat

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:24 AM

Alright check it,

Normal, Nightmare, and Hell are all cakewalks that take 8 hours each to run through. Literally no challenge, and all the loot is complete shit. All of it, and I can say that is a fact. The game does not start until level 60, a total of 25-30 of hours before you hit the brick wall that is Inferno difficulty. Enemies immediately start one shotting you, and loot immediately becomes interesting (my kind of game). But everything before that is a grind, picking up shitty rares to inch up your DPS and going through a terrible campaign 3 times just to be able to start playing.

So there's no loot to pull you forward on your way to 60, the community has official dubbed blacksmithing as worthless and a waste of moeny so there's nothing to do back at towns, and the skill system is what really tops it all off. The idea of the game is to pick a layout of 6 offensive/defensive skills, but as I said, the difficulty doesn't demand this until Inferno. So you're literally just unlocking skills for 30 hours and not having to use 90% of them to make it through Normal/Nightmare/Hell.

Given the shit loot and linear skill system, this means that your Barbarian is identical to my Barbarian until we start getting gear in Inferno. This means that if I play with you and you're a Witch Doctor, then I have no reason to start my own Wtich Doctor because I've seen everything your class is capable of. There will be no point to my next game, since there is no way to make a character different than someone else's until you've put 100 hours into the game and have the Inferno gear that gives you the options.

And I could talk about the hideous writing and childish atmosphere, or how hardly any enemies have their own rendered death animations and instead use ragdoll physics. I can't even name you the primary villains of this game and I've gone through the campaign 6 times.

And Blizzard's servers have made this game a bitch to play for the past few weeks and the problems are still occurring.

Nicest thing I can say about the game is that it is mildly nostalgic.

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Sorry for the poorly written post, I'd like to start working on a review soon instead. I should mail it to you!

#9 The Crotch

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:33 AM

Well, I could have told you that the plot/dialogue was going to be a giant pile of horse cocks.

But you were probably expecting that, anyway.

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#10 lolwhat

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:35 AM

I was very much expecting that, but I don't think anyone was expecting it to the degree Blizzard took it, or how damaging it would be to the experience. Diablo's dialogue during the boss encounter is already some kind of meme, I think.

I am still playing, because Inferno is hilarious in a broken and unbalanced sort of way. But yeah, it's flatly bad.

#11 The Crotch

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:41 AM

Really?

I mean, Wings of Liberty was pretty much perfectly wrong. Plot, pacing, dialogue, everything. If it's actually worse in Diablo 3, that... that would almost have to be intentional.

And, yeah, everything else sounds bad. One of our drivers in camp said he was hugely disappointed in the game, but he didn't elaborate.

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#12 lolwhat

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:49 AM

To be honest, at times I was pondering if the game was an intentional parody of some sort. The one time where the world feels natural and consistent with itself is the hidden rainbow unicorn level.

#13 Rei no Otaku

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:42 PM

Alright check it,

Normal, Nightmare, and Hell are all cakewalks that take 8 hours each to run through. Literally no challenge, and all the loot is complete shit. All of it, and I can say that is a fact. The game does not start until level 60, a total of 25-30 of hours before you hit the brick wall that is Inferno difficulty. Enemies immediately start one shotting you, and loot immediately becomes interesting (my kind of game). But everything before that is a grind, picking up shitty rares to inch up your DPS and going through a terrible campaign 3 times just to be able to start playing.

So there's no loot to pull you forward on your way to 60, the community has official dubbed blacksmithing as worthless and a waste of moeny so there's nothing to do back at towns, and the skill system is what really tops it all off. The idea of the game is to pick a layout of 6 offensive/defensive skills, but as I said, the difficulty doesn't demand this until Inferno. So you're literally just unlocking skills for 30 hours and not having to use 90% of them to make it through Normal/Nightmare/Hell.

Given the shit loot and linear skill system, this means that your Barbarian is identical to my Barbarian until we start getting gear in Inferno. This means that if I play with you and you're a Witch Doctor, then I have no reason to start my own Wtich Doctor because I've seen everything your class is capable of. There will be no point to my next game, since there is no way to make a character different than someone else's until you've put 100 hours into the game and have the Inferno gear that gives you the options.

And I could talk about the hideous writing and childish atmosphere, or how hardly any enemies have their own rendered death animations and instead use ragdoll physics. I can't even name you the primary villains of this game and I've gone through the campaign 6 times.

And Blizzard's servers have made this game a bitch to play for the past few weeks and the problems are still occurring.

Nicest thing I can say about the game is that it is mildly nostalgic.

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Sorry for the poorly written post, I'd like to start working on a review soon instead. I should mail it to you!

So basically the game is set up to make it attractive to spend real money in the auction house and having a game with a single player component that has to be connected to the internet at all times is a bad idea? Yeah, I remember why I didn't buy this.

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#14 R. Kasahara

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

At what I think is the last dungeon in Izuna 2. Going to try and beat it today, but the difficulty's been stepped up a bit, so I might continue to grind and upgrade my gear as best I can first.

I mean, Wings of Liberty was pretty much perfectly wrong. Plot, pacing, dialogue, everything. If it's actually worse in Diablo 3, that... that would almost have to be intentional.

The WoL campaign was pretty bad in terms of writing. The one thing it had going for it was the variety of the missions, but even those were on the easy side. Blizzard definitely isn't what they used to be. I blame Chris Metzen; he should stick to the jukebox cover songs :-P

So, how about that Torchlight II?
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#15 The Crotch

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:33 PM

The WoL campaign was pretty bad in terms of writing. The one thing it had going for it was the variety of the missions, but even those were on the easy side. Blizzard definitely isn't what they used to be. I blame Chris Metzen; he should stick to the jukebox cover songs :-P

Yeah, to be clear, I was talking about the campaign. Multiplayer wasn't perfect of course, but it was functional and fun. The campaign had variety as you noted (as opposed to the "turtle in one base until 200/200 carriers" in SC1), but everything else went to hell.

I guess some of the voice acting was good.

Some of it.

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#16 lolwhat

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

So basically the game is set up to make it attractive to spend real money in the auction house and having a game with a single player component that has to be connected to the internet at all times is a bad idea? Yeah, I remember why I didn't buy this.


Auction house and online community are the only reasons the game is working.

But yes, you dodged the bullet.

#17 Zmonkay

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:45 PM

Title makes me think of Chibi Robo Park Patrol... (which saddens me, cuz it is crap and Chibi Robo was a damn fine game).

Also glad to see I'm not the only one that disliked D3. A buddy of mine is in denial, claiming it's as good as D2...
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#18 dothog

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:48 PM

Chibi Robo was a damn fine game

Right on. I really got lucky bumping into that so late in the GC's lifespan. It was hard to find.
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#19 R. Kasahara

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

I guess some of the voice acting was good.

Some of it.

The less said about Kerrigan the better.
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#20 kainzero

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

Like how awful Diablo 3 ended up.

didn't you say you liked it at first?

i feel like all the D3 hype just died last week. after the server problems, i've hardly heard anything about it.
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#21 Indignate

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:29 PM

Panzer put like 70 hours into Diablo 3.

It's weird.

#22 lolwhat

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

Panzer put like 70 hours into Diablo 3.

It's weird.


didn't you say you liked it at first?

i feel like all the D3 hype just died last week. after the server problems, i've hardly heard anything about it.


Hey, launch night with buddies I played D2 with a decade ago was a good time. It was fun but it was because of an idea and not so much because of the actual software. I was in the denial stage for a while and I'll admit that. I mean, you don't pass up a game like Diablo 3 without going through some complicated emotions, and I think I'm finally past those.

Which is why I hate the D3 hate campaign that's been going on, because while people are rightfully calling the game bad -- they have no idea what they're talking about.

Shit like, "DRM ruined Diablo 3." Yeah, not because the entire game is awful, it was the DRM. Hipsters.

#23 TheLongshot

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:17 AM

Shit like, "DRM ruined Diablo 3." Yeah, not because the entire game is awful, it was the DRM. Hipsters.


Well, the always on connection was the last straw for me, but I wasn't getting it because:


  • I rarely buy new games a full price.
  • After playing 8 hours of Torchlight, I found that I couldn't get excited for Diablo anymore. Basically, I got bored of it.
Then there was the always on connection, and then everyone saying you have to play through the game twice for it to start to get good, I was like, Fuck that.


In the meantime, I have started playing The Witcher. Haven't gotten far, and the game crashed when I went to the first town. Looks interesting. Gotta love a game where one of the first things you do is bed a hot redhead. I mean, how can you say no?
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#24 The Crotch

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM

The less said about Kerrigan the better.

The carrier is probably the only thing that actually improved.

Some of the "In Utter Darkness" or whatever the Fuck it was called stuff in the final protoss mission was really good, but that was generic last stand stuff that's god damn impossible to Fuck up.

But this is not an RPG. Forgiveness, please.

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#25 R. Kasahara

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 06:25 AM

But this is not an RPG. Forgiveness, please.

I'm partly at fault as well. Sorry for the derail, all!

Beat Izuna 2 today. Like the first game, there's no credit roll after completing the main story. No "The End" or anything either, though there is a lengthy cutscene in this one that wraps things up before immediately plunking you into postgame territory.

I really don't understand why these two games were set up that way.

Anyway, now it'll be back to Persona 3 for me.
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#26 Indignate

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:13 AM

I have no idea what anyone is talking about anymore.

#27 Rei no Otaku

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:32 AM

Finally started playing Final Fantasy XIII-2. Is any of the DLC worth it and if so when should I play it?

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#28 Rai Rai

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:39 AM

Finally started playing Final Fantasy XIII-2. Is any of the DLC worth it and if so when should I play it?


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#29 cindersphere

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:45 AM

Been busy and working. Anyway I finally have some free time to start hacking away at my collection and finally replaced my stolen 360. Thinking about playing Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, or Blue Dragon. Anybody have any thoughts on these, or suggestions for other xbox rpg's I should take a look at first?
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#30 Zmonkay

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 11:23 AM

Lost Odyssey: Absolutely loved it. Not the most original game ever, but it had an enjoyable battle system, passable story, and fantastic "dream sequences" that tell some of the most well written, touching stories I have ever read anywhere. ever.

Blue Dragon: Played through ~12 hours and put it aside. Just found it super boring.

Tales of Vesperia: I'm sure this will get the most votes here, but imho it's way overrated. It's good don't get me wrong, but I just felt like it dragged in a lot of places. I enjoyed Symphonia and Abyss much more (though it's better than Legendia).
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