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#61 BillyBob29

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 05:46 AM

Other than the fact that Alien take on the traits of the people they burst out off. Big Homey was albino without an extra set of teeth....not pitch black with a cone like head.

Again....its just another thing that goes so completely against the franchise that it feels toss into there just to say its linked to Alien. Its fucking lazy.

If you wanted to link them in some way at least do the work and change it so it makes any sense. You already changed the Space Jockey...why didnt you just have them have 2 sets of teeth so it makes sense? Why didnt you have them black in color so it makes sense? I still havent found out why if 2 humans get together they produce a giant squid?


Maybe one of them had herpes. Man + woman + herpes + black goo = giant squid.

While I did enjoy the movie overall, I wonder what could have been. It really seems like this movie was intended to be either A.) a prequel to Alien or B.) a new attempt at a sci-fri franchise, but somewhere in development the two different ideas got tossed into a blender and we ended up with was a movie that doesn't really know what it is.

I'm interested in seeing all the cut material but I really doubt that material will make much of a difference in terms of the overall flow of the main story.

I would like to see a sequel due to the fact that so much was left unanswered, the story could be saved through further development.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 05:47 AM

I still havent found out why if 2 humans get together they produce a giant squid?


You really don't get that? Or are you being obtuse on purpose? If anything, you should question why a sterile woman who couldn't produce eggs would be able to fertilize anything - human or alien. The only way that works without being over-convoluted is that Shaw actually ovulated and produced eggs, just the eggs themselves were infertile for human reproduction. But super black goo sperm from the infected Holloway = alien baby making time because infected sperm made that infertile human egg work in a different way.


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#64 Cap'n_RDM

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:30 AM

Other than the fact that Alien take on the traits of the people they burst out off. Big Homey was albino without an extra set of teeth....not pitch black with a cone like head.

Again....its just another thing that goes so completely against the franchise that it feels toss into there just to say its linked to Alien. Its fucking lazy.

If you wanted to link them in some way at least do the work and change it so it makes any sense. You already changed the Space Jockey...why didnt you just have them have 2 sets of teeth so it makes sense? Why didnt you have them black in color so it makes sense? I still havent found out why if 2 humans get together they produce a giant squid?


Right, because the xenomorph in Alien looked just like Kane...skintone and all...:roll:
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 11:45 AM

Maybe one of them had herpes. Man + woman + herpes + black goo = giant squid.

While I did enjoy the movie overall, I wonder what could have been. It really seems like this movie was intended to be either A.) a prequel to Alien or B.) a new attempt at a sci-fri franchise, but somewhere in development the two different ideas got tossed into a blender and we ended up with was a movie that doesn't really know what it is.

I'm interested in seeing all the cut material but I really doubt that material will make much of a difference in terms of the overall flow of the main story.

I would like to see a sequel due to the fact that so much was left unanswered, the story could be saved through further development.


That's what I'm starting to think. I have read so much over the past 2 or 3 years about the film that it all seems like the film was changed to be different things over the writing phase.
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#66 Soodmeg

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:13 PM

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 04:09 PM

What is official when it comes to the backstory? I have only seen the movies and only count Alien and Aliens as even being made. I know their are comics but what makes any of them official? I would just like to know that way when I get the time to start on some of the comics I know what I'm reading is cannon and why. Does anything other than the movies and comics even exist?
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:04 PM

What is official when it comes to the backstory? I have only seen the movies and only count Alien and Aliens as even being made. I know their are comics but what makes any of them official? I would just like to know that way when I get the time to start on some of the comics I know what I'm reading is cannon and why. Does anything other than the movies and comics even exist?


There is a bunch of novels too, but I have no idea which ones could be considered cannon or not... My personal favorite of the bunch (comics or books, that is) was Earth War, but those couldn't be considered
cannon by any stretch of the imagination. I haven't read them in literally ten years though at this point... which reminds me, I gotta go check the prices of the Alien Omnibuses. :lol:

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

I looked for books on Amazon once before but didn't see any. Odd how I just typed Aliens and I was able to find them.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:42 PM

If they had played that theme dramatic theme song one more time during the film, I would have screamed and flipped off the screen. Every single trailer before the film was amazing. The alien at the end didn't have a tail, did it? I don't remember if the "worker" aliens had tails, but I know the queen did. Also, I'm still confused why all those other engineers were running all over the place, and piled up near that door when the two human dudes found them. Were they running from whatever was in the containers? If so, wouldn't the creatures from the containers still be inside the structure? What happened to the other 3 engineers in the cockpit of the ship? There were 4 pods, but only 1 engineer in the pods. And was the very beginning of the film supposed to have been a future scene of an engineer infecting a planet?

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 11:05 PM

Ummmmm......the Alien were already created there buddy. Again, this is the problem when pretending that you are doing some strange origin story, the xenomorph in alien could have been a communist space monkey..it doesnt matter because the back story was unknown at the time.

The Alien look the way they do because and their home world is dark and covered in webbing.

Again....you probably dont know about Xenomorph Prime (the Alien Homeworld....where they come from....because they were not created as a bioweapon...because that would be retarded) and going off this mash up of randomness.

30 years of official backstory already exist its clear that a lot of people dont know about it which is fine but thats where I am coming from.


We don't know that they weren't already created in Prometheus.

Also the generally accepted rule for most franchises is that expanded universe material isn't considered canon unless specifically stated as such. I haven't come across anything specifically stating that it is for Aliens. That shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of said material but you can't hold the movies accountable for not staying true what has been depicted in the comics.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

Seeing how they show a quick evolution of the xenomorph in Prometheus I'm going to say they were created in it. I don't know this for sure but that is what the movie lead me to believe.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 04:52 PM

There were Xenomorph murals on the walls of the ship/cave situation. They existed prior to Prometheus.


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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:15 PM

I forgot all about them. I wonder why they showed what looked to be the evolution. The more I read what people say and the more I rethink about the movie the more I realize that it wasn't planned well. The quick evolution is the biggest part for me. Still not a bad movie if you shut your brain off.
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#75 panzerfaust

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:08 PM

Just saw it.

I enjoyed the movie, but agree with all the stupidity people have accused it of. I mean, mind boggling stupidity in this movie at every minute. But I'm a simple guy, so that self-surgery scene was entirely worth the price of admission for me.

And I don't know how to feel about the religious material used in the movie. Why is she so devout when her passion seems to be all about finding answers outside of the bible? I didn't think of her as the faithful type.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:41 PM

And I don't know how to feel about the religious material used in the movie. Why is she so devout when her passion seems to be all about finding answers outside of the bible? I didn't think of her as the faithful type.


The answer is clear when she says something along this lines of "But who created them?" referring to the engineers. It seems her faith is in line with what the Catholic teaching is (and possibly other Christian denominations): Evolution, science, etc. is all good and wonderful and is how things work. But there is still a God who set this "plan" into motion and who is the ultimate creator of the Big Bang or whatever you want to say.

So why did the Engineers create us and want to destroy us? Who created them? What does that being think of what the Engineers want to do to us? Those questions aren't necessarily out of line with believing in God.


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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:50 PM

Ehh that's still silly logic for a scientist. Trillion dollar mission and all they have to say is "Because I believe!"

I really enjoyed her performance, it's just a lot of stupidity throughout the cast and premise that kept the movie from being amazing.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 01:00 AM

Trillion dollar mission and all they have to say is "Because I believe!"



I don't think believing in a higher power and seeking out answers to questions they wanted was silly. But just believing they'd find SOMETHING there was silly. I mean they spent 2+ years traveling super far from Earth in a mission that cost trillions of dollars.... and they weren't even sure they'd find anything there. It was just a blind belief, a hunch, a guess. There were like 5 stars or something like that and they picked one moon of one planet because it was similar in size to Earth and close to Earth's position to the Sun. It's a huge gamble. For all they know, there was a full flourishing civilization on another planet around a different one of those stars and they missed it by looking for an Earth-clone. That whole idea is silly. Just send a satellite craft or robot or something. That's like what, a 5 year delay of the manned mission given their level of technology? For being scientists, nearly every action the took was damn near unscientific.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:07 AM

It's a much more enjoyable movie once you stop trying to make any sense of it. I mean shit, it had the same writer as Lost and Scott is trolling the hell out of everybody.;)

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:05 PM

Looks like we have a translation of what David said.

http://thebioscopist...o-the-engineer/

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:25 PM

very interesting, cant wait for the 3d Blu Ray release. so many questions. i love fassbender btw, he's awesome
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:48 AM

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

I hope we can see the full conversation in the DVD with David and the Space Jokey. I'm also wondering what all that was cut will be on it. If it does not have a directors cut it will not be worth getting to me. Even if it has deleted scenes it is still not worth a buy.
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