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#5971 Lexxon

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:47 AM

God I suck at this game. Doesn't help when Madden decides to screw me left and right.


You got screwed pretty badly--two fumbles lost and some lucky INTs on my part. My defense frequently plays better than their stats--I had three straight shutouts last year at one point. And it's not my skill for sure, I barely make any adjustments.

Seahawks defeat Giants 31-0. 2 INT and two fumble recoveries greatly affect the outcome of this game, as I'd have to guess at least 17 of the points (maybe 24) came off of these turnovers, including the first two drives starting inside the 40. Lynch with 98 yds on the ground and newly-acquired Aaron Rodgers with 3 TDs along with a paltry 81 yards, and one ugly pick.

#5972 irideabike

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:54 AM

Lions/Raiders goes down tomorrow at 5 central.

Also I would have gone for it on fourth and inches.

#5973 Blade3D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:55 AM

Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.

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#5974 GamerDude316

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:02 AM

Remaining games:

Jets vs Bills
Chargers vs Broncos
Packers vs Bears
Vikings vs Panthers
Cardinals vs Cowboys
49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues)
Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)

#5975 n8rockerasu

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:05 AM

Just my own $.02 on this:

I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.


Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.

#5976 Dark Rider

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:16 AM

Remaining games:

Jets vs Bills
Chargers vs Broncos
Packers vs Bears
Vikings vs Panthers
Cardinals vs Cowboys
49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues)
Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)


Stealing my job, eh? ;)

I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.

#5977 GamerDude316

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:19 AM

Stealing my job, eh? ;)

I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.


I was trying to find my week 2 opponent and noticed it hadnt been done yet so I figured I would since I was bored 8-)

Of course, I have the CPU Panthers, ugh. that means it'll be week 3 before I even get a human opponent!

#5978 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:30 AM

Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.


just so it is clear my memory is quiet shit lol. but anyways if u have a 21 point lead of less in the 4th is it ok to still pass for short yard gains as long as ur not going deep and for the endzone. unless of course the only person that is open is the deep guy. in that case u throw to him and dive. i guess my main question is when is it at the point where ur being a dick for passing. it makes it easy for teams to stop u when they know u have to run so ur not considered a dick.

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#5979 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:32 AM

also n8 on the 3rd i will be good to play pretty much any point that day im wide open to whenever

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#5980 HooRox

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:35 AM

Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.



Yeah, both games were laggy. When I got punted, it said removed due to network issues both times. No clue, was doing nothing unusual. My son has no issues with his online games (Halo, Transformers, Minecraft, etc.). Also, Kaster and I played three games online over the past few days with no issues and no significant lag.

Blade was dominating me 20-0 in the first game and he was up 13-0 midway through 2nd qtr. in second. Of course he neglected to mention that I had just intercepted him and taken it back to his one yd line at the moment I got kicked. ;)

I am available to try again tomorrow evening. After 9:30 ET is preferred.

#5981 Blade3D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:38 AM

Yeah, both games were laggy. When I got punted, it said removed due to network issues both times. No clue, was doing nothing unusual. My son has no issues with his online games (Halo, Transformers, Minecraft, etc.). Also, Kaster and I played three games online over the past few days with no issues and no significant lag.

Blade was dominating me 20-0 in the first game and he was up 13-0 midway through 2nd qtr. in second. Of course he neglected to mention that I had just intercepted him and taken it back to his one yd line at the moment I got kicked. ;)

I am available to try again tomorrow evening. After 9:30 ET is preferred.


Haha it's cool, it was never that laggy for me. It was only when that black bar would pop up maybe 3-5 each game.

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#5982 HooRox

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:43 AM

Haha it's cool, it was never that laggy for me. It was only when that black bar would pop up maybe 3-5 each game.


Didn't mean to sound paranoid. Wish this wasn't my first game in the league. ;-)

I will be up for a bit longer, if you're available. If not, does tomorrow evening work?

#5983 Blade3D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:45 AM

Didn't mean to sound paranoid. Wish this wasn't my first game in the league. ;-)

I will be up for a bit longer, if you're available. If not, does tomorrow evening work?


Lets just plan on tomorrow evening. I am free then.

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#5984 HooRox

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:50 AM

Lets just plan on tomorrow evening. I am free then.


That's good with me.

Want to plan for 9:30 or 10:00 ET?

#5985 Blade3D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:56 AM

That's good with me.

Want to plan for 9:30 or 10:00 ET?


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#5986 billymcdugal

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

im having to restart my game against the cowboys playing the computer, i only see sleect and waiting for him to show up or simulate by pressing x. do i press x to simulate then get an option to play cpu?

#5987 n8rockerasu

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:56 AM

im having to restart my game against the cowboys playing the computer, i only see sleect and waiting for him to show up or simulate by pressing x. do i press x to simulate then get an option to play cpu?


No. If you select "simulate", you won't be able to play the game. Did he tell you to play the CPU? What's the deal here?

#5988 billymcdugal

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:00 AM

No. If you select "simulate", you won't be able to play the game. Did he tell you to play the CPU? What's the deal here?

we played the game, i was up 3-30 or so , had the ball with 3 minutes left, ran the ball to wind down the clock, kicked a field goal with about a minute left then i kicked it to him and it looked on my end like he put the controller down, he said that his wifi was messing up and that he had hoped that it would make it through, so i could play the cpu.

#5989 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:55 AM

must have been over looked on there other page so i will ask again. when is it considered time to quit passing the ball once u have a lead. since its looked upon as being a dick when passing the ball when having the lead. but some teams such as the titans who run the ball alot having them be allowed to still run the ball isnt quite fair. why should i stop passing to get first downs when i have a big league when guys that can run the ball all day dont have to stop running the ball? if i have a big lead such as 21 one points or 14 points somewhere in that range in the fourth do i have to stop passing or it ok as long as i dont target the endzone?

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#5990 ballinhun8

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:32 AM

My WiFi crapped out. Why would I put the control down with 1 minute to go when from the beginning of the fourth it was a blowout? Wouldn't make sense on my part.



Anyways I put myself on autopilot so you could whoop my CPU.

#5991 billymcdugal

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:15 AM

My WiFi crapped out. Why would I put the control down with 1 minute to go when from the beginning of the fourth it was a blowout? Wouldn't make sense on my part.



Anyways I put myself on autopilot so you could whoop my CPU.

right im not saying you did put the controller down, im just saying thats how it appeared on my screen, hence why it booted you for grieving.

#5992 DarkTower80

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:45 AM

must have been over looked on there other page so i will ask again. when is it considered time to quit passing the ball once u have a lead. since its looked upon as being a dick when passing the ball when having the lead. but some teams such as the titans who run the ball alot having them be allowed to still run the ball isnt quite fair. why should i stop passing to get first downs when i have a big league when guys that can run the ball all day dont have to stop running the ball? if i have a big lead such as 21 one points or 14 points somewhere in that range in the fourth do i have to stop passing or it ok as long as i dont target the endzone?


My opinion is that if you are running it on first and second down and milking the play clock and then throwing to try to get a first down then I don't really have a problem with it. Like throwing an 8 yard pass on third and 6 to try to keep the ball.

But I think if you are up big you shouldn't really be throwing on first or second down. There also is really no reason to go deep with it at all.

#5993 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:54 AM

i get what ur saying tower but that still lets them know wut ur doing engage 8 1st and 2nd down knowing that i have to run doesnt really make it to fair.
and as u know since we just played im not the type to run up the score at all and im sure anyone in the league knows im not for it either but giving people ability to know exactly wut ur doing isnt quite fair

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#5994 n8rockerasu

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:18 AM

i get what ur saying tower but that still lets them know wut ur doing engage 8 1st and 2nd down knowing that i have to run doesnt really make it to fair.
and as u know since we just played im not the type to run up the score at all and im sure anyone in the league knows im not for it either but giving people ability to know exactly wut ur doing isnt quite fair


Well, that's kind of where an "enforced logic" comes in. I feel like we have to restrict a lot of stuff so people don't "play like a video game", and actually use football logic. In real life, the reason for running the ball is to chew clock. Coaches don't risk a pass because it could either A) lead to a turnover or B) result in an incompletion which stops the clock. If you're up by 21 in the 4th quarter, you should be trying to do everything you can to keep that clock moving....and at that point, punting isn't the worst thing in the world should it happen.

I don't know why a lot of people seem to have trouble grasping it, but if you kill some clock with a 21 point lead in the 4th, and are forced to punt...and then your opponent comes down the field and scores a TD to cut your lead to 14...start running your offense again. The idea of chewing the clock doesn't mean that you have to let your opponent come back and tie the game or something.

Obviously, it starts to become a gray area, but to me, a comfortable lead is 3 scores. Two scores can happen pretty quickly (TD + onside kick). So, to me it wouldn't be reasonable to get upset at somebody for throwing the ball (on any down) with a 2 score lead. I guess the idea there is that you're still trying to score to put the game away. And with a 3 score lead...you're trying to preserve the lead and get the game over with (not saying you can't do that with less than a 3 score lead...you've just got a much smaller margin for error).

And as always...in the 3rd quarter, there is no expectation. The variable factor here is time. If there's time to come back, you should keep playing your game. But once you get to a comfortable spot in the 4th quarter where you can whittle down the clock and dictate the end of the game, that's all you should be trying to do.

#5995 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

so in others words 4th quarter lead is 14 its still ok to pass but anymore than 14 start running. thats fine by me i just wanted to know when the dick factor came into play and now i know so thank u

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#5996 Blade3D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

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#5997 n8rockerasu

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

so in others words 4th quarter lead is 14 its still ok to pass but anymore than 14 start running. thats fine by me i just wanted to know when the dick factor came into play and now i know so thank u


Well, within reason. It's still expected that if you can run the clock out, you do so. So, if there's less than 2 minutes left and your opponent has no time outs, obviously you shouldn't be passing the ball...regardless of the size of your lead.

#5998 DVO21

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

Well, within reason. It's still expected that if you can run the clock out, you do so. So, if there's less than 2 minutes left and your opponent has no time outs, obviously you shouldn't be passing the ball...regardless of the size of your lead.


lol well i knew that boss man ;)

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

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