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#661 Chetty12

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 12:17 PM

And I can't find a list of all the transactions that have been done or a list somewhere of everyone on the trading block. Anyone have any luck?

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 12:41 PM

And on a side note Bengals still looking for a number 2 WR or even a new number 1 WR but AJ Green is staying any takers on a trade make it worth u while if u even consider


I'd be willing to make a deal for Santana Moss. He is an 85 overall in a west coast offense. 33 years old, but you should be able to get 3 more years out of him. He would be a major upgrade to your #2 spot. Fast with good hands.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:40 PM

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

Players on my trading block.

Jake long
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Cameron wake and Reggie bush depending on what I'm getting in return.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

All right, I added sections for Free Agency and Trades to our rules and policies section of the OP. That section is getting pretty lengthy, lol. Though, I'd rather make sure things are explained up front and get it out of the way now than have people wondering what's acceptable later. Once we get things started, I'll put it in spoiler tags so it doesn't clog up the whole OP. But for now, it's front and center so everyone has no excuse for not knowing the rules.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:21 PM

After thinking about it i'm going to go ahead and pick this up on Friday and i'd like to join.


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#667 JoelyPoley

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

All right, I added sections for Free Agency and Trades to our rules and policies section of the OP. That section is getting pretty lengthy, lol. Though, I'd rather make sure things are explained up front and get it out of the way now than have people wondering what's acceptable later. Once we get things started, I'll put it in spoiler tags so it doesn't clog up the whole OP. But for now, it's front and center so everyone has no excuse for not knowing the rules.


Basing FA signing order solely on cap space doesn't seem very fair in my situation. There are only 5 teams with less cap space than the Redskins, and the Redskins are arguably one of the teams that need the most help.

It is true that we don't know if good players took poor teams, but it is reasonable to consider that those bad teams will handicap the player enough to make it even game between bad players with good teams and good players with bad teams. And if we are worried about good players with bad teams having an advantage then why aren't we worried about good players with good teams who will have an even greater advantage by signing the best FA's?

I would propose more of a hybrid systems of FA's between team rating and cap space. Like Group 1 would be the first to sign FA's. That Group 1 would contain teams whose ratings are between 70-75. Of those in that group the team with the most cap space will get first signing and the team with the least will get last signing. Then Group 2 will go. Group 2 will contain teams between 76 - 80. Etc.

This way we aren't handicapping teams like the rams, seahawks, chiefs, bills, redskins, and raiders who all have less cap room than the Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Vikings, Eagles and Titans simply because we don't know how good the players controlling those bad teams are.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:34 PM

Basing FA signing order solely on cap space doesn't seem very fair in my situation. There are only 5 teams with less cap space than the Redskins, and the Redskins are arguably one of the teams that need the most help.

It is true that we don't know if good players took poor teams, but it is reasonable to consider that those bad teams will handicap the player enough to make it even game between bad players with good teams and good players with bad teams. And if we are worried about good players with bad teams having an advantage then why aren't we worried about good players with good teams who will have an even greater advantage by signing the best FA's?

I would propose more of a hybrid systems of FA's between team rating and cap space. Like Group 1 would be the first to sign FA's. That Group 1 would contain teams whose ratings are between 70-75. Of those in that group the team with the most cap space will get first signing and the team with the least will get last signing. Then Group 2 will go. Group 2 will contain teams between 76 - 80. Etc.

This way we aren't handicapping teams like the rams, seahawks, chiefs, bills, redskins, and raiders who all have less cap room than the Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Vikings, Eagles and Titans simply because we don't know how good the players controlling those bad teams are.


This seems pretty reasonable to me.

If we fill up and don't have to worry about CPU teams scooping players up, we can always wait until say, week 4, and use the order of worst record to best record to draft from the FA pool.

Then we can progress and do this every 4 weeks.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:38 PM

On a side note, I played an unranked game against a friend of mine who lives across town from me, and we lagged pretty bad at times. We played at 3am, so it's not like it was peak hours. I'll give it a few runs to see if it's a persistent problem for me. I can't play games that rely on timing like that.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

agreed but r people willing to wait a little longer for us to get a few more people like say september 15th start date filled or not filled thats something that needs to be talked about.

also are we going to do the preseason or just sim in with injuries off

and no thank u to santana moss

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

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#672 JoelyPoley

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:20 PM

I wasn't looking for much for Moss, but that's fine lol.

I'd like to play preseason even if it is an accelerated advancing schedule. You have to cut your roster down to 53 players throughout the preseason and I would prefer to cut the players I don't want. The computer may automatically cut the worst players which isn't the best decisions if you have rookie that gets cut over a 33 year old player who is barely better. Preseason also gives you the ability to trade players before cutting them. If you have three centers rated at 80, 79, and 78 you might want to try and get a low pick for the 78 rather than having the computer cut him. Just some examples.

We could advance through preseason weeks once every day for 4 days, then go to our normal advance once every four days for regular season.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:20 PM

so in my offline cm i offered 2 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder for 77 overall michael floyd and stil got a no insane

so then i tried my top three players on the team and guess wut still a big time no i think unless there players are on the block then maybe they just refuse to let go becuz the interest level on all three player were green which means they would mean they were highly interested

a page back someone offered sananta moss when i said i wanted a WR wasnt talking to u poley

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

I traded packers backup qb and a 6th round pick for Russell Wilson and got him

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

I offered moss lol. I have the Skins in this league.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

agreed but r people willing to wait a little longer for us to get a few more people like say september 15th start date filled or not filled thats something that needs to be talked about.

also are we going to do the preseason or just sim in with injuries off

and no thank u to santana moss


9/15 isn't a stretch at all. The patch and big roster update aren't expected until 9/11 anyway. If we fill up by then, great. I just don't want to force it. There's no sense in begging people to play if they're going to be difficult to get in touch with or not keep up with the league and end up dropping anyway. I'm already a little nervous that only a handful of people post in the thread or give input on settings and other proposed league policies.

As for preseason, I think we should definitely do it. To me, simming it is dumb. There are opportunities to practice with your team then, make trades, decide who you want to cut. It's not like it's just "games that don't count". In my opinion, that team management stuff is just as important as playing the games. Maybe doing it at a quicker pace is reasonable, but I don't know why people would pass up opportunities to get in some work with their team and get some of these issues figured out before the games count.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

would we atleast turn on injuries during pre season becuz with doing pre season i might be back in time for week 1 which will be great. i dont want to come back to a broken team either

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:45 PM

Yea I have to agree. After playing a few games and seeing the new schemes in action I think preseason holds a little more value than in previous years. I found myself actually caring about who my third string qb was and how he fit into my system.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:58 PM

Basing FA signing order solely on cap space doesn't seem very fair in my situation. There are only 5 teams with less cap space than the Redskins, and the Redskins are arguably one of the teams that need the most help.

It is true that we don't know if good players took poor teams, but it is reasonable to consider that those bad teams will handicap the player enough to make it even game between bad players with good teams and good players with bad teams. And if we are worried about good players with bad teams having an advantage then why aren't we worried about good players with good teams who will have an even greater advantage by signing the best FA's?

I would propose more of a hybrid systems of FA's between team rating and cap space. Like Group 1 would be the first to sign FA's. That Group 1 would contain teams whose ratings are between 70-75. Of those in that group the team with the most cap space will get first signing and the team with the least will get last signing. Then Group 2 will go. Group 2 will contain teams between 76 - 80. Etc.

This way we aren't handicapping teams like the rams, seahawks, chiefs, bills, redskins, and raiders who all have less cap room than the Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Vikings, Eagles and Titans simply because we don't know how good the players controlling those bad teams are.


That's an interesting idea. Set up the groups and show me how it would look and we can definitely consider it.

would we atleast turn on injuries during pre season becuz with doing pre season i might be back in time for week 1 which will be great. i dont want to come back to a broken team either


It doesn't make sense to make the argument that "without injuries, there's no realism" for the regular season, but want to turn them off for the preseason. They're either a problem or they're not. Nobody's starters should be seeing that many snaps in the preseason anyway (even if you're on autopilot). If at any point, we feel that injuries are happening too much, we can discuss whether it's the player's fault, or if we need to turn the injuries slider down a bit.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:02 PM

Anybody feel like doing whatever fantasy football league ties into Madden? I barely know anything about fantasy football, but I still enjoy it from time to time. I think you can play Madden games with your fantasy football team as well.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:14 PM

After thinking about it i'm going to go ahead and pick this up on Friday and i'd like to join.


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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

well if my starters get hurt becuz computer doesnt take them out im gonig to be pretty upset

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:49 PM

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:53 PM

well if my starters get hurt becuz computer doesnt take them out im gonig to be pretty upset


People have played some preseason CPU games though and seen that they do bring in backups as a real coach would. It just doesn't seem right to cherry pick when injuries are appropriate. One person could have a player saved from a preseason injury because we turned them off. Then in week one of the regular season, when we turn them on, somebody could lose a player for the season. That's not fair. They should either be on all the time or off all the time.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:56 PM

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:09 PM

Sample groups (Team Rating - Team Name - Cap Space). The Colts would pick first and the Giants would pick last. You can play around with the groups but I thought this looked pretty fair.

73 – Indianapolis Colts $32.10 million
72 – Minnesota Vikings $12.68 million
75 – Miami Dolphins $9.84 million
75 – Cleveland Browns $9.62 million
72 – St. Louis Rams $7.68 million

79 – Carolina Panthers $9.68 million
78 – Arizona Cardinals $9.45 million
76 – Oakland Raiders $9.17 million
77 – Jacksonville Jaguars $8.66 million
79 – Tampa Bay Bucs $7.72 million
79 – Kansas City Chiefs $7.06 million
77 – Washington Redskins $3.74 million

84 – Cincinnati Bengals $17.91 million
81 – Tennessee Titans $14.21 million
80 – Seattle Seahawks $5.99 million
82 – New York Jets $5.94 million
80 – Buffalo Bills $4.25 million
83 – Chicago Bears $4.04 million
84 – Atlanta Falcons $2.86 million
83 – San Diego Chargers $1.75 million

88 – Houston Texans $14.62 million
86 – Philadelphia Eagles $11.29 million
85 – New Orleans Saints $6.24 million
85 – Denver Broncos $4.80 million
85 – Dallas Cowboys $3.38 million
87 – Pittsburgh Steelers $3.27 million.
86 – Detroit Lions $3.05 million
88 – Baltimore Ravens $2.46 million.

91 – New England Patriots $10.18 million
89 – San Francisco 49ers $6.3 million
91 – Green Bay Packers $4.81 million
90 – New York Giants $4.56 million


Edit: This all becomes a non issue if we fill the group so lets keep our fingers crossed for that.
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#687 n8rockerasu

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:18 PM

We're going to need to get people to vote on this one because I'm really torn. I understand your argument and agree that weaker rated teams are the ones that need more help. However, this is the first year that money is a factor. And to me, it still makes sense that the teams with the most money to spend would have more of a claim to the top free agents.

Using your example, the Redskins, who only have $3.66M of cap space wouldn't even be able to sign the highest overall free agent, Plaxico Burress, because he wants $4.48M. So, in that regard, it doesn't matter how bad they are or how much they might need the help. They don't have the money. However, looking at your list, it's not as bad as I worried it might be, and there's a reasonable chance that a player like Burress could be gone by the time the Skins get to pick anyway. But it was just an example. I'm just having trouble shaking the thought that this is a money issue and therefore should only relate to money. But I'll go with whatever people think is best. Just need more people to weigh in on it.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:19 PM

If anybody would be up for playing any pickup games before the league starts, and wouldn't mind possibly giving me any pointers, please send a friend request to me (XBL: DeskLaser), and let's set up some games. Whenever I try to play someone random online, they always cheese to hell. Maybe it's just me, but I was not aware that Aaron Rodgers scrambles all over the field.

For the Free Agency thing, it doesn't matter to me any way it happens, since I don't know enough about what's going on to really know what to do for trades and FA, etc, anyways.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

Since it's my first year doing anything like this, I see all FA talk and the trade talk etc, for Season 1 if I more or less want to go out and just play as THE Denver Bronocos. The team I watch Sunday to Sunday, is that going to get me clobbered any worse than being a complete beginner?
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:54 PM

hey N8 not sure if u have ran into this but sometimes when u progress a player even when hes doing really good and earns a ton of xp his overall still seems to go down whats with that

i also noticed that progression even on every four weeks if u dont progress then u can wait to progress whenever u want but once u have u have to wait 4 weeks that hows it working for me atleast has anyone else noticed?