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#7741 pitfallharry219

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

Doing it once deserves a strike, but doing it multiple times is just a TOTAL dick move. If that happened against me, it might piss me off enough to quit the league. I don't want to play against assholes like that.

#7742 irideabike

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on learning from it, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone. I guess I'll just take knees or something anytime in the fourth if I'm up, I really don't want to have drama in a madden league.

#7743 CAGLeagueSports

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone.


With a 28 point lead, in his end of the field with 3:30 left in the game, do you think a coach would risk an INT? Seriously? Run the ball, kick the field goal (or pin him inside his 10 if you're not close enough), and be happy with your 28 point lead. What this starts to look like is a team more concerned with staying undefeated than playing the right way. You know better than this.

Also, don't be one of those people who plays victim by taking it to the other extreme. Nobody is telling you to kneel the ball 3 times. Play CONSERVATIVELY, and if your lead starts to shrink, then turn it back up. This has been discussed a million times. Continuing to pour it on because your opponent "might" come back is completely the wrong way to think about it. "I was afraid my 28 point lead would shrink...so I won by 35." Be reasonable and think about how that makes you look.
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#7744 KasterDB

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

Well, that's kind of where an "enforced logic" comes in. I feel like we have to restrict a lot of stuff so people don't "play like a video game", and actually use football logic. In real life, the reason for running the ball is to chew clock. Coaches don't risk a pass because it could either A) lead to a turnover or B) result in an incompletion which stops the clock. If you're up by 21 in the 4th quarter, you should be trying to do everything you can to keep that clock moving....and at that point, punting isn't the worst thing in the world should it happen.

I don't know why a lot of people seem to have trouble grasping it, but if you kill some clock with a 21 point lead in the 4th, and are forced to punt...and then your opponent comes down the field and scores a TD to cut your lead to 14...start running your offense again. The idea of chewing the clock doesn't mean that you have to let your opponent come back and tie the game or something.

Obviously, it starts to become a gray area, but to me, a comfortable lead is 3 scores. Two scores can happen pretty quickly (TD + onside kick). So, to me it wouldn't be reasonable to get upset at somebody for throwing the ball (on any down) with a 2 score lead. I guess the idea there is that you're still trying to score to put the game away. And with a 3 score lead...you're trying to preserve the lead and get the game over with (not saying you can't do that with less than a 3 score lead...you've just got a much smaller margin for error).

And as always...in the 3rd quarter, there is no expectation. The variable factor here is time. If there's time to come back, you should keep playing your game. But once you get to a comfortable spot in the 4th quarter where you can whittle down the clock and dictate the end of the game, that's all you should be trying to do.

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#7745 CAGLeagueSports

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:39 PM

Relevant.


I think I'm going to just add that to the OP so people at least have something to reference. At least we have the strike system now, and people have a chance to right the ship before it really affects their team. Ultimately, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, and troy is facing some type of consequence for it. Hopefully that's enough to be fair to everyone and we can move on. He got his strike for it, and hopefully it won't happen again.

Added to the rules in the OP under the new "Big Lead in the 4th Quarter" section.
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#7746 GamerDude316

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:00 AM

I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on learning from it, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone. I guess I'll just take knees or something anytime in the fourth if I'm up, I really don't want to have drama in a madden league.


I know it's not my place to say anything since you already have your strike but I have to comment on how ridiculous that sounds.

You are 8-0 in this league. You're up 28 points with 3:30 left in the 4th quarter in your opponents territory.. On what planet is it realistic to do anything but run it on 3rd down and kick the FG? Doing anything else is just mind-numbingly stupid and disrespectful up that much. And the whole running it out at the 1, messaging him asking if he cares whether you score or not and then running it in with your RB absolutely screams "mining for XP with your rookie RB", no matter what you were actually intending. You need to think about how this stuff comes across to other league members.

#7747 Konfusion

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:31 AM

Not to pile on, but I would have to agree with Gamerdude on how bad it looks to others. There is absolutely no way you were scared of a comeback. You had a near perfect passer rating while scoring 35 points in the first half and held the ball for 3/4 of the game. I don't buy that excuse at all and I wouldn't expect anyone else to. Whether it was intended or not, it looks like you wanted to get your running back another score and knew you couldn't convert the third down on the ground, so went to the pass and ran out of bounds to save the score for your MVP candidate. Again, not saying that was intended, but that is what I immediately thought after reading Kaster's post.

If Kaster had sent a message back saying "don't score", what would you have done? Taken knees and kicked the field goal? That's not realistic at all. Should've just ran the ball on 3rd down and kick/punt. At that point, it doesn't matter if he knows what you're doing and stops you. The game is over. Sounds like it ended long before that play.

#7748 CAGLeagueSports

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:05 AM

Silver lining here? At least it seems every other person in the league is in agreement, which hopefully means this kind of thing won't happen very often anymore. By hook or by crook, dammit, lol. :)
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#7749 GpNinja

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:07 AM

GG sweaty the first half you totally dominated on defense and then I probably came back and got more sacks in this game than I have in all my other games. But it was all the cpu I only probably got one user sack. GG

#7750 irideabike

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:14 AM

possible upset special in the bears/raiders game right now. third quarter and its raiders 20 bears 7

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#7751 ubernes

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:22 AM

I'm going to leave this league as well. I spoke a bit to n8 about sticking around but it's just been impossible to schedule anything. Tomorrow is my first day I'm not doing anything after work in a long while and sneaking in a Madden game is just not a priority. It's been fun though.

#7752 pitfallharry219

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:28 AM

I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! Fuck this shit.

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#7753 Flyersfan

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:44 AM

I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! Fuck this shit.

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Which play was that on? I didn't notice it. The only one i remember the players being close on was the last int. I got extremely lucky on the last one, your no huddle was killing me so I expected the td to happen on that play. I audibled 3 times on that play and had that lb in that zone at the last second.

Devin hester is extremely scary back there. If you didn't get hung up on feet/grass/invisible shit ea seems to put in, you would have at least taken one back (opening second half especially) and possibly two back.

Also, I don't know if you did it on purpose, but thanks for calling your timeout on that weird play with Jaquizz Rodgers when I got the first down and just floated on bodies, then got pushed out of bounds.

My timeout after the two minute warning was an accident, I scratched my head and hit the back button when I put my hand back down on the controller.

GG though I admit I got the lucky shit happening for me. Like that fumble that got pushed out of bounds, could've changed the whole game.


#7754 pitfallharry219

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

It happened twice, it looked like to me. The first one on the curl route, and then another on a slant. I really need to up my players' CIT rating because they're all pretty low.

I feel like I got "Maddened" to some extent, but it didn't matter. I didn't play well enough to win anyway.

#7755 dr0ppinL0adz

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

can't wait for this bye week to be over. i'm really looking forward to the challenge of stopping Tamme and Demps... not gonna lie though, i'm very happy I don't have to face Bush. Also puts me one week closer to finally getting Briggs back

#7756 dr0ppinL0adz

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:06 AM

I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! Fuck this shit.

GG, Flyersfan.


that sucks man. those are the most frustrating plays for sure. I remember when the game first got released they were saying the new physics engine was going to get rid of those plays - guess not

#7757 irideabike

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

Can't believe that the Giants released Canty and Bradshaw. Second year in a row that I hope the packers pick up an ex Giant.

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#7758 billymcdugal

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

I'm going to leave this league as well. I spoke a bit to n8 about sticking around but it's just been impossible to schedule anything. Tomorrow is my first day I'm not doing anything after work in a long while and sneaking in a Madden game is just not a priority. It's been fun though.

gonna play tonights game or should i just play the cpu when i get home?

#7759 ubernes

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

gonna play tonights game or should i just play the cpu when i get home?


cpu. sorry man.

#7760 billymcdugal

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

cpu. sorry man.

no its cool i may be able to slide it in before work!

#7761 DarkTower80

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:02 PM

Well, atlanta told me to play the cpu but now my power is out. Will try to get the game in when it comes back on. Hopefully soon.

#7762 GamerDude316

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

I'm at work so I can't check, how many games left? Kinda hoping for an early advance tonight.

#7763 irideabike

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

I'm at work too but I know ATL vs JAG and ARI vs STL are left based on the above posts.

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#7764 billymcdugal

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

i know ill be playing the cpu in the cards vs rams when I'm home at 7p (if n8 is able to put them on auto by them otherwise it'll just be whenever he has the time)

#7765 irideabike

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

Uber can put them on auto if you PM him.

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#7766 Dark Rider

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

Games left:

STL vs ARI (ARI can play CPU)
NYG vs DAL
CLE vs HOU

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#7767 DarkTower80

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:23 PM

Just finished ATL at JAX.

#7768 GamerDude316

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:26 PM

Games left:

STL vs ARI (ARI can play CPU)
NYG vs DAL
CLE vs HOU


Any update on the last 2? I know jza said he probably wouldn't be around much after last week

#7769 irideabike

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

anybody else getting just dumped on with snow right now?

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#7770 GamerDude316

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

anybody else getting just dumped on with snow right now?


East coast? I live in NH and they're saying 2 feet for us tomorrow....