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#391 camoor

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:00 PM

Chick-fil-A seemingly doubled down on its anti-gay marriage stance yet again after the company's president re-iterated the restaurant chain's support of "Biblical" families.

"Families are very important to our country," Dan Cathy told NBC affiliate 11 Alive. "And they're very important to those of us who are concerned about being able to hang on to our heritage. We support Biblical families, and they've always been a part of that."

Cathy's remarks should clear up any residual confusion over the restaurant chain's views.


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Hilarious, the guy can't keep his mouth shut. No wonder his PR person keeled over from a heart attack. It's easier to rep Lindsay Lohan.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

Biblical families were fucked up - incest, slavery, women sold to men, adultery, immaculate conception...


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:11 PM

Biblical families were fucked up - incest, slavery, women sold to men, adultery, immaculate conception...


Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw the other day that said "No Jesus = No Peace." Apparently this person missed a few history lessons...


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:27 PM

I'm pretty sure there was some bigamy. There might have been what (by today's standards) might be considered pedophilia, but I'd have to re-read some things, and I don't think I'll be doing that any time soon. Sodomy and rape might even fit in there somewhere, but again, that would require some study.

Point being is that seemingly few people actually take a reflective introspection into the words they use, and just knock off some sound bytes that support a stupid ideology.

You want marriage to be between a consenting man and woman? Alright, then say that. Throw in a descriptor like "biblical families" without understanding that it opens the door to a LOT of undesirable options doesn't make you look informed, but instead just a blind loudmouth.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:29 PM

Speaking of conception, you ever notice how, in pictures of Adam and Eve, they both have belly buttons? Yeah, think about that a second.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:36 PM

Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw the other day that said "No Jesus = No Peace." Apparently this person missed a few history lessons...


Not to harp on this, but I (think I) know what is trying to be said here.

"Peace" almost certainly doesn't equate to ceasefire terms of the lack of war. It most likely means internal peace, not unlike what most Eastern religions strive to achieve.

This is my assumption though, because I'm running this answer through a filter my parents would use. I don't personally subscribe to the notion, because my earliest memories of church were of a tiny version of myself coming to terms with a reality that told me I was possibly the worst thing to ever exist in history, that my evil alignment had been decided for me, and that no matter how much I possibly tried to emulate a specific set of rules and beliefs designed to bring me closer to paradise after death, there was basically zero chance I could actually achieve that.

That's a lot of fucking shit to take on as a six year old. And it's stuck with me until this day, so that when confronted with the usual "why aren't you going to church/being a good Christian/etc" diatribes, all I can think about is how it NEVER brought me peace, but instead instilled a gargantuan feeling of inadequacy, fear, and paranoia.

Jesus says his yoke is light, which is always the phrase the pastor would come out and say BUT IT'S NOT, HOLY SHIT IT'S HEAVY AND HARD AND YOU WILL SUFFER, and that kind of stuff just made everything that much more burdensome.


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#397 Clak

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:38 PM

I'd take it to mean that the only way to peace, in any form, is through Christianity, which is bullshit.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

...... because my earliest memories of church were of a tiny version of myself coming to terms with a reality that told me I was possibly the worst thing to ever exist in history, that my evil alignment had been decided for me, and that no matter how much I possibly tried to emulate a specific set of rules and beliefs designed to bring me closer to paradise after death, there was basically zero chance I could actually achieve that......

...... it NEVER brought me peace, but instead instilled a gargantuan feeling of inadequacy, fear, and paranoia.
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You're exactly right about never being good enough to obtain salvation, but that's exactly what gave me peace. I was raised in the church and by age 13 I had had enough, but my problems were related to the hypocrisy of self-proclaimed Christians. It was remembering those feelings while reading parts of the Bible that brought me back to God a couple years ago.

In the 20 yrs I was gone I got about as far from Christianity as one could possibly get. I became hateful, became a meth addict, practiced Wicca, I strove to be as different from the Christians I knew growing up as I possibly could. Then I met my wife and had children. She had never been a churchgoer so she had no direct influence in my salvation. I tried to raise my kids to be the best ppl they could be, but was failing as a provider. I began looking at my situation and my past. It caused me to hit a very low spot. I had made the decision to kill myself and was actively searching for the way to do it.

One day while particularly vulnerable I stumbled across a Bible my mom had gotten me over 15 yrs before in a faint attempt to reach me. For some reason I decided to just sit and read the New Testament, outside of a church setting, to read it as a story and not dissect it and pull individual verses out of context. Idk what compelled me to do this, but it became a stronger compulsion to read it than the urge I had to be dead.

I read about the only man who had done no wrong, about the love and compassion He had for the lowest of ppl, about the special distaste He had for profiteers and so-called religious leaders. I read how at every single turn He protected ppl, even though they didn't deserve it, he spent time with the lowest classes of ppl. I saw the way the public reacted, and saw the way the leaders reacted. This man, who had done no wrong to anyone was arrested, beaten beyond anything a man could withstand, had known all this was coming. He could have skipped town, avoided all the pain. He could have left long before he was nailed to a tree, bleeding so much that there was no more blood to drain, at the end only water seeped from His body. He knew all this and went through with it willingly. He knew that without His sacrifice no one would ever enter into Heaven because we are not and never will be worthy. He loved ppl that much.

I realized those hypocrites I saw growing up were no more worthy of salvation than I (being a drug addict and a pagan) was. It made me even angrier at those so-called Christians and I began to look at them like the Pharisee that arrested Jesus. Those hypocrites had also placed their religious laws above their praise, worship, and service. So I started feeling like I had to defend the name of the man who defended me 2000 yrs before, defend it both from His attackers and His followers.

This Chik-fil-a thing falls into both catagories, protection from attackers and followers. The whole thing is a farce and just being used by the media to divide the public.

Sorry this was so long, I didn't set out to write a novel, but the words just kept flowing.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

I'd take it as personal peace if I saw it, not literal peace between different factions.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:56 PM

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I'm not sure if I'm supposed to respond to this, nor am I sure how that response should be framed.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:03 PM

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to respond to this, nor am I sure how that response should be framed.

No response requested. I just read what you wrote and felt the need to comment for no particular reason. I totally respect other ppl's views and opinions. Free will is very important, otherwise there is no choosing a god.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:11 PM

Fair enough.


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#403 camoor

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:10 AM

You're exactly right about never being good enough to obtain salvation, but that's exactly what gave me peace. I was raised in the church and by age 13 I had had enough, but my problems were related to the hypocrisy of self-proclaimed Christians. It was remembering those feelings while reading parts of the Bible that brought me back to God a couple years ago.

In the 20 yrs I was gone I got about as far from Christianity as one could possibly get. I became hateful, became a meth addict, practiced Wicca, I strove to be as different from the Christians I knew growing up as I possibly could. Then I met my wife and had children. She had never been a churchgoer so she had no direct influence in my salvation. I tried to raise my kids to be the best ppl they could be, but was failing as a provider. I began looking at my situation and my past. It caused me to hit a very low spot. I had made the decision to kill myself and was actively searching for the way to do it.

One day while particularly vulnerable I stumbled across a Bible my mom had gotten me over 15 yrs before in a faint attempt to reach me. For some reason I decided to just sit and read the New Testament, outside of a church setting, to read it as a story and not dissect it and pull individual verses out of context. Idk what compelled me to do this, but it became a stronger compulsion to read it than the urge I had to be dead.

I read about the only man who had done no wrong, about the love and compassion He had for the lowest of ppl, about the special distaste He had for profiteers and so-called religious leaders. I read how at every single turn He protected ppl, even though they didn't deserve it, he spent time with the lowest classes of ppl. I saw the way the public reacted, and saw the way the leaders reacted. This man, who had done no wrong to anyone was arrested, beaten beyond anything a man could withstand, had known all this was coming. He could have skipped town, avoided all the pain. He could have left long before he was nailed to a tree, bleeding so much that there was no more blood to drain, at the end only water seeped from His body. He knew all this and went through with it willingly. He knew that without His sacrifice no one would ever enter into Heaven because we are not and never will be worthy. He loved ppl that much.

I realized those hypocrites I saw growing up were no more worthy of salvation than I (being a drug addict and a pagan) was. It made me even angrier at those so-called Christians and I began to look at them like the Pharisee that arrested Jesus. Those hypocrites had also placed their religious laws above their praise, worship, and service. So I started feeling like I had to defend the name of the man who defended me 2000 yrs before, defend it both from His attackers and His followers.

This Chik-fil-a thing falls into both catagories, protection from attackers and followers. The whole thing is a farce and just being used by the media to divide the public.

Sorry this was so long, I didn't set out to write a novel, but the words just kept flowing.




You were no Wiccan, you were a pathetic fluffy bunny. And now you're a pathetic Xian sheep.

Uh congrats?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:34 AM

I once said to someone that it was funny how people seem to find religion when it's convenient, they said I was wrong. Hah....
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:15 AM

You were no Wiccan, you were a pathetic fluffy bunny. And now you're a pathetic Xian sheep.

Uh congrats?

I assume you mean Zion sheep, as Xian is a person who reaches immortality (in Taoism). But yes, I am a sheep... with the greatest Shepherd at my side. I never have to feel that loneliness again.

And again you're right. I was no Wiccan. I joined a few circles, recited a few chants, lit a few candles. Like I said, I practiced it. I never claimed that I adhered to it.

Thank you for your attempt at wit on the matter though. Even though your results weren't humorous, your efforts were.



I once said to someone that it was funny how people seem to find religion when it's convenient, they said I was wrong. Hah....


I agree. But then again the same thing goes for drugs, alcohol, friendship, anger, revenge or any other thing a person finds to soothe their pains. Why would Christianity be any different?

Edited by PottyPops, 04 October 2012 - 08:26 AM.
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