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#91 elessar123

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:26 PM

If Chick-fil-a stopped using MSG, they'd probably lose their customers anyways.

As for believing the Bible 100%, where does it say no polygamy? All these Chick-fil-a supporters say marriage is been a man and a woman. I don't recall the Bible saying that either.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:28 PM

If Chick-fil-a stopped using MSG, they'd probably lose their customers anyways.

As for believing the Bible 100%, where does it say no polygamy?


If they wanted to believe in the Bible 100%, they wouldn't be eating MSG, HFCS, etc. AKA, Chik-fil-A's ingredient list.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

If Chick-fil-a stopped using MSG, they'd probably lose their customers anyways.

As for believing the Bible 100%, where does it say no polygamy? All these Chick-fil-a supporters say marriage is been a man and a woman. I don't recall the Bible saying that either.


Holy crap I didnt know Chick FilA has MSG. We need another MSG sweep - that shit is getting into everything.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

Not to sound harsh but white Christans are the whiniest mother fuckers in the world. They have dealt with NO adversity whatsoever.


In the video game of life, it's the easiest difficulty setting, my friend.

I think the moral of the story is clear and the translation is just wrong....Jesus hates Figs....not $$$s.

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heh. you know, the way you described the parable in your terms, I couldn't help but picture Jesus as some kind of prattish reality tv star. good on ya.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:53 PM

I'm sure this has been beaten to death, but I'm going to attempt to boil down the argument as concisely as possible:
  • Chik-fil-A absolutely has the right to make such comments. They even have the right to refuse service to particular customers if they wish (as far as I know).
  • People absolutely have the right to boycott them.
  • Chik-fil-A does NOT have the right to use their profits to fund advocacy groups that advance laws supportive of THEIR religious doctrines, as that is an outright violation of a core principle this country was founded on.
This is a simplification (perhaps oversimplification), so feel free to correct me as needed, but as some point the discussion effectively enters filler stage, which is usually marked by a bunch of pro-insert-religious-dogma-angle-here.

Please note I am BORED AS SHIT at work, so while I haven't read the thread, I'm legit just trying to get something to pop up on my CAG User control panel just to keep sane.


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#96 berzirk

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:42 PM

The ONLY one, the King James version. If you will read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, the Bible is very clear on God's opinion of homosexuality.


Eek. Might want to learn Greek and Hebrew. Try translating a Dr. Seuss book from English to Spanish without messing up the meaning or small details somewhere. Now think about doing that times about 8,000, and having it be a book people base their lives on.

Not trying to pile on, but out of the many, many Christian friends I have, I'm not sure I know any who are Bible literalistics and claim that the version we have today is perfect and is the true version revealed all those years ago. To each their own.

(this is a fake account trolling us...right?)

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:54 PM

I'm sorry that since I have a job and cant stay on these forums, you think I don't know what im talking about. But I know what God has done for me, and noone can take that away from me. I'm done here, God bless you all. I will continue to pray for you all.


God might have done a lot for you but your church has made you a holier-than-thou no-fact-having douche. Pray for me all you want, won't change a thing.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:05 PM

(this is a fake account trolling us...right?)

Not likely. Person has posted a bit in the deals section before sauntering into vs. Not that it means anything of course, but it doesn't look like an account purely to troll us.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:14 PM

Dammit - myke mentioned burritos a few posts back and now I want one.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:20 PM

Everyday I find myself drifting closer and closer to Agnosticism or atleast living a much more secular life because of shit like this. Religion is fine and I do like to focus on the positive aspects, but when people want to use religion as an excuse for their own prejudices (read: homophobia) to oppress other people... Makes me question, y'know?
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#101 Javery

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

I'm sure this has been beaten to death, but I'm going to attempt to boil down the argument as concisely as possible:

  • Chik-fil-A absolutely has the right to make such comments. They even have the right to refuse service to particular customers if they wish (as far as I know).
  • People absolutely have the right to boycott them.
  • Chik-fil-A does NOT have the right to use their profits to fund advocacy groups that advance laws supportive of THEIR religious doctrines, as that is an outright violation of a core principle this country was founded on.
This is a simplification (perhaps oversimplification), so feel free to correct me as needed, but as some point the discussion effectively enters filler stage, which is usually marked by a bunch of pro-insert-religious-dogma-angle-here.

Please note I am BORED AS SHIT at work, so while I haven't read the thread, I'm legit just trying to get something to pop up on my CAG User control panel just to keep sane.


Strell - the first amendment only applies to "state actors" (government) so Chik-fil-A can donate to whoever they want (the donations are probably considered "speech" under the first amendment). Things get trickier with refusing service because even though Chik-fil-A isn't a "state actor" they are subject to regulation through the interstate commerce clause of the constitution which gives the federal government the right to prohibit discrimination against minority groups by otherwise private businesses.... or something like that. It's been a while since Con Law.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:41 PM

I think comparing the disapproval of the ability for homosexuals to marry to hating someone based on the color of their skin is ridiculous and distasteful as well as offensive to people who actually fought for something in the civil rights movement as apposed to just being a dick on an internet video game forum.


To me your bias is already standing out when you use the word Homosexual instead of Gay. Do you have a problem with Gay people?
I still find it funny that I don't think I was being a terrible dick on my passage and roe completely glosses it over. Why the Fuck should I recognize a God, at least how I was taught, was called "The King Of Kings" especially note that word, king.
Roe you do know the basis for the New Testament was Ancient Greek? If I remember correctly.

I thought it was Mycea, Myke.

Myke as for your co-opted argument doesn't that almost always happen whenever a movement is Charismatically led?
Lastly, for those making the MSG comments a few notes. Most of these people are fucking hypocrites. Sam Brownback is against Human Cloning but do you hear the man being actively against genetically modified food? No.
For MSG itself a few things to note. If some food doesn't have every component of MSG in it, they don't have to label it. Say, for instance, if it says it has Glutamate then they can cover that up by saying "natural flavors", "spices" and other such ambiguous words.
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#103 irideabike

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:42 PM

off topic, but qdoba has BOGO on all entrees until the fourth.

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#104 Strell

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:56 PM

Appreciate the knowledge, J skrillz.

I shouldn't have used the word "right" up there. I meant it in a more generalized "here's you specifically taking measures to legally infringe on another group's rights," since I see it as less a venue toward exercising speech and more toward installing legal restrictions. This is somewhat analogous to the Mormon church heavily funding anti-Prop 8 measures in California a few years ago.

This might not change anything in terms of my argument, in which case, fair enough, and I appreciate the correction.


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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:09 PM

off topic, but qdoba has BOGO on all entrees until the fourth.

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I can't even imagine eating two of those things.
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#106 elessar123

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:09 PM

For MSG itself a few things to note. If some food doesn't have every component of MSG in it, they don't have to label it. Say, for instance, if it says it has Glutamate then they can cover that up by saying "natural flavors", "spices" and other such ambiguous words.


Huh? Chick-fil-a lists MSG. It's not some left-winged conspiracy. And all I meant was MSG tricks our mind that food taste better than it is. So if they cut it out of their recipe, people won't think it's as good. I don't even know where genetically engineered foods came into play.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:20 PM

I can't even imagine eating two of those things.


That's where friends come in lol.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:06 PM

And all I meant was MSG tricks our mind that food taste better than it is.

can't you say the same thing about salt?
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:29 PM

Dammit - myke mentioned burritos a few posts back and now I want one.


You're a healthy dude. I swear that GNC's banana cream whey protein, mixed w/ plain soy milk, is fuckin' *identical* to Jello Banana Pudding Pops (which ceased production, I think, around 25 years ago.

Try it, I swear you'll like it. Unless you have that faux banana flavor, in which case you're an agent of satan.

(it's not a burrito, but it is my current fixation.)

Back to talking about MSG, then, I suppose.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:35 PM

I remember those banana pudding pops. Things were pretty good, actually I could go for one right now. Damn you Myke....
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:37 PM

This whole story seems like much ado about nothing to me.

Private company owners can say what they want and make whatever donations they see fit. As customers we can choose not to spend our money with companies who's views we oppose.

I already generally avoided Chick-Fil-A due to not wanting to give my money to such a religiously driven company. Occasionally gave in as there's shit for food near my campus office and there's one in the food court. Now I'll totally pass due to this.

Conversely, I'm even more apt to continue spending money at Amazon after their CEO donated $2.5 million to promote legalizing gay marriage in Washington.

Companies, and their owners, have free speech rights. And I have the freedom to not support companies who's views oppose my own. So I just don't see an issue worth all the outrage in some circles.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:38 PM

I had no idea CFA was full of MSG. I might have to stop eating there.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:44 PM

I have to wonder how much I can trust a company to not discriminate against employees/potential employees when their founder and leader thinks they're basically evil. It's like saying "I think you and your kind invite god's wrath down upon us, but we're an equal opportunity employer!"
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:56 PM

This whole story seems like much ado about nothing to me.

Private company owners can say what they want and make whatever donations they see fit. As customers we can choose not to spend our money with companies who's views we oppose.

I already generally avoided Chick-Fil-A due to not wanting to give my money to such a religiously driven company. Occasionally gave in as there's shit for food near my campus office and there's one in the food court. Now I'll totally pass due to this.

Conversely, I'm even more apt to continue spending money at Amazon after their CEO donated $2.5 million to promote legalizing gay marriage in Washington.

Companies, and their owners, have free speech rights. And I have the freedom to not support companies who's views oppose my own. So I just don't see an issue worth all the outrage in some circles.


That's my exact same stance on all of this. I get tweaked by seeing both sides politicize this. There is nothing that says a person can't have a bigoted opinion, and even profess it loudly. There is nothing that says a person can't criticize that person or avoid doing business with them. All the rest is just grandstanding.

There was a coffee shop in Portland, OR who's anarchist owner refused to serve uniformed police (may have even said they couldn't enter his store). It got some attention because of the odd stance, but the cops said sure, that's his right, we'll go elsewhere, and the issue faded fast.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:00 PM

You're a healthy dude. I swear that GNC's banana cream whey protein, mixed w/ plain soy milk, is fuckin' *identical* to Jello Banana Pudding Pops (which ceased production, I think, around 25 years ago.

Try it, I swear you'll like it. Unless you have that faux banana flavor, in which case you're an agent of satan.

(it's not a burrito, but it is my current fixation.)

Back to talking about MSG, then, I suppose.


Ummm why not just use milk? To me it seems like a waste of Soy Milk to mix it with milk protein.

I remember Dole's Chocolate pudding out of the can tastes nothing like it out of the cup. To this date I've never tasted anything matching it. Seems to me Dole must've changed their recipe and fucked the quality in the process.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:08 PM

I have to wonder how much I can trust a company to not discriminate against employees/potential employees when their founder and leader thinks they're basically evil. It's like saying "I think you and your kind invite god's wrath down upon us, but we're an equal opportunity employer!"


That's an optional question on the Chickfila application:

Will you be likely to invite God's wrath upon us?

_ Yes
_ No
_ Prefer not to say

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:14 PM

Actually confoosius I believe the questionnaire asks about your relationship status and I don't mean the married or single one. Pretty fucking nosy if you ask me.
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#118 dohdough

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

That's an optional question on the Chickfila application:

Will you be likely to invite God's wrath upon us?

_ Yes
_ No
_ Prefer not to say

You know, this is actually a very interesting point despite being a joke. Asking a question like that would obviously be illegal, but they could ask optional self-identification questions to legally weed out applicants under the guise of being an EOE.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:18 PM

Actually confoosius I believe the questionnaire asks about your relationship status and I don't mean the married or single one. Pretty fucking nosy if you ask me.


I thought asking even marital status wasn't legal?

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:22 PM

I've been asked plenty of illegal things in interviews, usually verbally though, hard to prove those.
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