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#631 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:53 AM

2. Scorch, I feel your pain, but my policy is I only buy what I am going to play or anticipate playing immediately at a higher price. Everything else I just wait. Almost every PC game will eventually hit $5 and with these bundles lately (indie and amazon) I find myself getting awesome AAA games for $2 or less sometimes! So unless I absolutely want something I just wait. Especially if I had a bandwidth cap.

Amen.

Yeah, if I'm dropping $20+ on a game, I'm gonna be playing it ASAP - the more it costs, the more IMMEDIATELY it is to play. NOW. No wait period. Everything else gets delayed for EXPENSIVE shiny game.

Most other games, which normally end-up in my always rapidly growing backlog - I usually wait for games to hit $10 or less (especially if it's a Triple-A title); OR a 75% off sale.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:53 AM

I hear your feedback, but I'm curious, what time period do you think is acceptable for spacing between promotions? Our general rule of thumb is 1 month. Additionally, it makes more sense to launch products at a lower discount, see how customers respond, and then plan future promotions based on that response.

When I say "it makes sense" I am speaking from a statistical/financial/logical perspective.

Curious what the general thought here is, should we not be promoting products within 2 months of each other? Does that mean that Black Friday discounts should be the exact same as Christmas Sale Discounts?

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Since I'm a rabid pro-consumer type of guy, I would say that whenever you can find a reason to drop the price, do so.

From a marketing standpoint, I think that you get more sales by not establishing a set pattern. Yes, the price may go slightly cheaper. On the other hand, the price may not hit that low for quite some time. For example, Amazon ran a promo on Modern Warfare 2 for $5. I don't think it's ever returned to that price. I didn't expect the 5-game EA pack to go below $10 at least until Christmas, so I was surprised but not upset -- except with my own ability of prediction. I thought about it maybe going $7.50 like the THQ pack and made the calculated decision. I never expected you would drop this quickly, or that EA would allow you to drop this quickly. Well done!

I think with a degree of uncertainty, the interest and excitement is raised, which should increase sales overall.

The only thing I would suggest for your consideration is that there maybe be a 1 month price guarantee with specifically promoted items and/or pre-orders -- as it is with other goods from some retailers. Meaning, if you buy X and it drops further in price, the customer is credited the difference in game credit. That should only increase sales overall as purchasers would feel more confident in making their purchase decision. But since I don't have access to your sales data and plans, this strategy may cost more than what it is worth.

And let me apologize in advance, but I am going to hit up your customer service for said credit with one of my purchases. I do like to get the best possible bargain and it never hurts to ask. Of course, if the rep says no I'm not going to hold it against Amazon or you, throw a tantrum, or stop saying all the nice things I do say about Amazon's customer service and aggressive pricing.

But I would appreciate the gesture and it would make me feel better about shopping with Amazon. ;)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:53 AM

Again, just curious what you think the time frame between promotions should be? Or if you're suggesting that we don't test out pricing to see what works?

I'm happy to alleviate customer frustration, and strive to do so regularly. Understand that feedback like this will absolutely result in fewer bundle deals getting re-run at better prices though.

It is something we absolutely discuss regularly.

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Hopefully you don't get too discouraged by the vocal minority, Tony. I get people sending me bitchy PMs from the GMG thread all the time (and I am not even an employee) about miniscule price differences. A lot of people here like getting the "best" deals on stuff more than actually playing the games they buy.

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#634 mm3n

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:54 AM

The Batman bundle would have been a hell of a bundle if Arkham City was GOTY too ... Any chances to make that happen? Would be must buy for me in that case :)

#635 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:54 AM

How is that exactly crappy? You should pick and choose when to buy your games. You felt that those deals were worth it for you at the time, so you bought them.

Case in point: I REALLY REALLY REALLY ....REALLLLLLLLLLY want to play Sleeping dogs, and could buy it for 22.50 + tax after the 25% code Tony supplied today... But that simply isnt my price point. I know that it will drop low and fast because it is a new IP and holiday season is coming around.

When it hits the price point I want to pay and play it. I think the full price of admission on Sleeping dogs is worth it, but I just do not have that budget.

You have no reason to complain. I could see if it was a day or two the price changed, sure...but this is nearly a full month you are asking for leeway for here.


My problem w/ Sleeping Dogs at $22 or so is...
1. There'll be at least 6 months of planned DLC for Sleeping Dogs;
2. That I'm currently playing Diablo III;
3. I began Legend of Grimrock days ago and probably will go back to that eventually, after D3's done with...;
4. MW3 is now in my backlog (which probably won't be there very long...);
5. AND my backlog is getting EVEN bigger!

If all the above crap wasn't in my way, I might be interested in Sleeping Dogs right now...

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:55 AM

Tony,
Last year one of the best deals I thought you had around the end of the year was Dungeon Defenders... I put out 100 hours in that game alone...Since then there has been a bunch of DLC for that game, are you guys planning on carrying them anytime?

Also +1 for Dark Souls sale!

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:57 AM

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Wow I sent a PM right when you posted it, but apparently it never went thru. oh well

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#638 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:00 AM

Tony,
Last year one of the best deals I thought you had around the end of the year was Dungeon Defenders... I put out 100 hours in that game alone...Since then there has been a bunch of DLC for that game, are you guys planning on carrying them anytime?

Also +1 for Dark Souls sale!


Dark Souls: PTD is one of those games I'm VERY-VERY interested in...
...at least Durante's Mod pretty much looks like it'll cure most of my concerns about "lazy-PC port syndrome."


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Wow I sent a PM right when you posted it, but apparently it never went thru. oh well


I'm curious what kind of FREE games hook-up Tony was giving out to the one who won that "PM me fast" contest, hehe.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:01 AM

Since I'm a rabid pro-consumer type of guy, I would say that whenever you can find a reason to drop the price, do so.

From a marketing standpoint, I think that you get more sales by not establishing a set pattern. Yes, the price may go slightly cheaper. On the other hand, the price may not hit that low for quite some time. For example, Amazon ran a promo on Modern Warfare 2 for $5. I don't think it's ever returned to that price. I didn't expect the 5-game EA pack to go below $10 at least until Christmas, so I was surprised but not upset -- except with my own ability of prediction. I thought about it maybe going $7.50 like the THQ pack and made the calculated decision. I never expected you would drop this quickly, or that EA would allow you to drop this quickly. Well done!

I think with a degree of uncertainty, the interest and excitement is raised, which should increase sales overall.

The only thing I would suggest for your consideration is that there maybe be a 1 month price guarantee with specifically promoted items and/or pre-orders -- as it is with other goods from some retailers. Meaning, if you buy X and it drops further in price, the customer is credited the difference in game credit. That should only increase sales overall as purchasers would feel more confident in making their purchase decision. But since I don't have access to your sales data and plans, this strategy may cost more than what it is worth.

And let me apologize in advance, but I am going to hit up your customer service for said credit with one of my purchases. I do like to get the best possible bargain and it never hurts to ask. Of course, if the rep says no I'm not going to hold it against Amazon or you, throw a tantrum, or stop saying all the nice things I do say about Amazon's customer service and aggressive pricing.

But I would appreciate the gesture and it would make me feel better about shopping with Amazon. ;)

Very well put.

People don't seem to be understanding that I (I don't know about anyone else) am not "complaining" about losing a few bucks by buying a bundle a month before it drops in price. I'm not completely clueless here, I know prices go down.

But Tony expressly tells us to offer feedback on this stuff. That's why I suggest the idea that maybe if the price on a bundle drops quickly like it did with the EA pack, that the early buyers get a little kickback in the way of a coupon or account credit (or something like nategator said above). It makes early buyers even happier about their purchase, and it encourages them to buy more.

I'm a bit confused why/if people are opposed to that idea. Could anyone explain how this is a bad idea, or any negatives about it? I'm curious.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:03 AM

The Batman bundle would have been a hell of a bundle if Arkham City was GOTY too ... Any chances to make that happen? Would be must buy for me in that case :)


I looked at that too, fortunately all the dlc can be purchased directly through Steam, I thought it might be only theough Games for Windows Live Marketplace (looking at you Bioshock 2), but even at this price it's a steal, and you could wait for the winter sale for the DLC. Still waiting to see if securom is included though.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:07 AM

Just want to drop in and say, Tony I have no problem if you further decrease the price of games on sale right now after a month or two. There is nothing wrong with that all.

#642 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:15 AM

I looked at that too, fortunately all the dlc can be purchased directly through Steam, I thought it might be only theough Games for Windows Live Marketplace (looking at you Bioshock 2), but even at this price it's a steal, and you could wait for the winter sale for the DLC. Still waiting to see if securom is included though.


Steam put out a new rule a while back:
All games released that are on Steam, ALL of their expansions and DLC MUST be ALSO sold on Steam.
Or else, they wind-up kicked off just like Dragon Age 2 did and Crysis 2 did (for a while, until Crytek put Crysis 2 Maximum Ed on Steam w/ ALL DLC).
Bioshock 2, ME2, DIRT 3, and many others are grandfathered in to stay on Steam b/c their exclusive DLC was released BEFORE Steam put up that new rule...UNLESS they plan to get BRAND NEW DLC released.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:28 AM

weird that Dishonored isn't available digitally through amazon.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:29 AM

Dammit, I missed out on free stuff!
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I was just in the right place at the right time. Had I not been compelled to comment on Fox's creepy tongue fox gif, I might have just moved on to the next thread.

By the way, Tony had me test out the keys for Batman: Arkham City & Batman: Arkham Asylum to see if they would activate on steam. I'm happy to report 100% success.

Thanks again Tony. :)

#645 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:29 AM

Want to save an additional 25% on anything we're selling that is NOT a pre-order or new release within the last 30 days?

Type in "OCTOFUN1" in the promotional code area at checkout.

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Do you have a section or filter on Amazon DVG so we can check EVERYTHING that you guys have had released in last 30 days?

Also - I think you'll see if you have something having a special sale, people might be more likely to try to stack that special sale + your promo code (OCTOFUN1 in this case) TOGETHER for a MAJOR-MAJOR deal.
i.e. Sleeping Dogs for $30 + OCTOFUN1 code = $22.50.

#646 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:31 AM

weird that Dishonored isn't available digitally through amazon.

Zenimax and Bethesda are NOT on board w/ Amazon DVG. :(

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BTW, I'd love to see Tony get Bethesda and Zenimax to join them!

#647 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:36 AM

I was just in the right place at the right time. Had I not been compelled to comment on Fox's creepy tongue fox gif, I might have just moved on to the next thread.

By the way, Tony had me test out the keys for Batman: Arkham City & Batman: Arkham Asylym to see if they would activate on steam. I'm happy to report 100% success.

Thanks again Tony. :)


Oh, I already have those from elsewhere - Batman: AA from G4WL; Batman: AC from Origin.
If I "won", I would've had to have Tony pick someone else to redeem those! :P
I wouldn't want to basically "waste" those keys, more or less.

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#648 MC Kage

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:38 AM

I'm jelly

Still willing to split for Arkham Asylum lol

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#649 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:40 AM

I'm jelly

Well, then who's gravy...? ;)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:04 AM

I was just in the right place at the right time. Had I not been compelled to comment on Fox's creepy tongue fox gif, I might have just moved on to the next thread.

By the way, Tony had me test out the keys for Batman: Arkham City & Batman: Arkham Asylum to see if they would activate on steam. I'm happy to report 100% success.

Thanks again Tony. :)


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:06 AM

Wow, amazing deals. I couldn't resist Sleeping Dogs for $22.49.

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#652 MC Kage

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:08 AM

Well, then who's gravy...? ;)


You since you have them both haha. Need to try out AA.

& I saw you picked up D3 for $10, good steal. Last one I'm guessing.

I'm with you on Sleeping Dogs too, I can wait.



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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:08 AM

Anybody decide what they are using their code on? I can't think of anything beyond the past 30 days that I want.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:14 AM

Anybody decide what they are using their code on? I can't think of anything beyond the past 30 days that I want.


Yeah no clue here either. Most the older than 30 day stuff I want I know I'll be able to get for much cheaper during the holiday sale since they are currently not on sale now. I own nearly everything that I do want that is currently on sale that I can tell right now.

#655 MysterD

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:17 AM

You since you have them both haha.

Hehe! :)
Also, my reply "gravy" was a hint at a few Lil Wayne lines from one his songs (track #10) on Carter 4, if you didn't catch it... ;)
"Jumped on a Celly/Called Makaveli/He said he was gravy/I said I was jelly." - Lil Wayne.

Need to try out AA.

Both Batman: AC and AA are great, to say the least.
Batman: AC's better, though, if you ask me.

I saw you picked up D3 for $10, good steal. Last one I'm guessing.

Nope.
There was one D3 left at the Kingston, MA TRU, when I left yesterday (a little after 1-pm or so).
Lord knows if it's still there now - especially if people in MA decided to fly over there to go get it.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:18 AM

It's best on the stuff on sale, like the Amazon bundle or this:

http://www.amazon.co...heapassgam08-20

4 great adventure games for $7.50 - non steam though.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:19 AM

OK, well here is where I would stand:

2. Scorch, I feel your pain, but my policy is I only buy what I am going to play or anticipate playing immediately at a higher price. Everything else I just wait. Almost every PC game will eventually hit $5 and with these bundles lately (indie and amazon) I find myself getting awesome AAA games for $2 or less sometimes! So unless I absolutely want something I just wait. Especially if I had a bandwidth cap.

Overall, I'm fine with the strategy. I buy at the price I am comfortable at. I bought Darkness II at $9.99 and turns out I might not be able to play it as soon as I though. Heard a $5 Halloween sale might be possible - great. No complaints here. I paid what I wanted when I wanted. I think a month is more than enough time between promoting the same game at a lower price. If you didn't play it within that month you need to adjust your strategy of buying games and wait until the $5 price point or lower for games that are getting into the backlog.


This is solid advice, especially if you're relatively new to buying digital pc games (as I think I saw Scorch mention somewhere). It took some time to adjust my purchasing strategy—as a console (ps2/psp) gamer I worried about product scarcity; price scarcity is not as big a deal. And if you already have a backlog, it should reinforce that patience strategy.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:30 AM

This is solid advice, especially if you're relatively new to buying digital pc games (as I think I saw Scorch mention somewhere). It took some time to adjust my purchasing strategy—as a console (ps2/psp) gamer I worried about product scarcity; price scarcity is not as big a deal. And if you already have a backlog, it should reinforce that patience strategy.


Yeah, I made the same mistakes. When it comes to physical games you are always worried if something will hit that price again and then when it does if it will be in stock at a store near you or online when you are near the computer.

Even in the early days when Steam was the only horse in the race you worried about when a game would be on sale again. In the last few years, I've learned that it's only a matter of time before a game will be the same price or cheaper (most of the time) so I learn to be patient.

There's always a few exceptions (like MW2 for $4.99 or ARMA II for $15.99) but for the most you will see a game hit the same price point within a month or two and since this is digital, running out of keys to sell is usually not a problem.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:44 AM

Is there a way to just view the games that are on sale? I cannot for the life of me find a way to do that.

There's so much information on that page that it's overwhelming, and a good portion of it is just distraction from what you're currently viewing. Some info is on the page twice. I just want to see the sales. :(

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:49 AM

It's best on the stuff on sale, like the Amazon bundle or this:

http://www.amazon.co...heapassgam08-20

4 great adventure games for $7.50 - non steam though.


I used mine on that one, I had already purchased the EA bundle on Sunday, and the Viva Media 10 games around the same time, which would've been extremely good with the coupon
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