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#17641 Mooby

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

I don't even care if people complain. I'd prefer that they do so we can adjust. I'm just unsure how I'm supposed to respond.



I guess some folks want you to respond with $2 Darksiders Franchise! :lol: It's impossible to please everyone. Personally there aren't that many games left on Amazon that I'd really be interested in (I bought Defenders of Ardania for $2.50 from Gamer's Gate -- forgive me!!!) so I'd be surprised if I used another coupon at all. Everyone's tastes are different and, of course, they're going to want the specific game they want and a (sometimes absurdly low) rock-bottom price.

I don't mind people being critical either, nor am I attempt to quash them but I think a lot of the disappointment stems from an unreasonable expectation of what the January promotion was about -- it wasn't necessarily going to top the December deals and anyone who experienced it last year would know that. Obviously there are people who didn't so I don't blame them as a lot of their expectations were fueled by fortunate/coincidental price matching from Steam last year.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

All this talk about bad deals etc.

I'm still over here beating orphans with SlimJims like a madman to get Condemned on the EC list!


I keep seeing you talk about wanting Condemned (Criminal Origins, right?), and I keep thinking "Boy, if only he'd been around a few years back when D2D was almost giving that game away for free one day/week."

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

I guess some folks want you to respond with $2 Darksiders Franchise! :lol: It's impossible to please everyone. Personally there aren't that many games left on Amazon that I'd really interested in so I'd be surprised if I used another coupon at all. Everyone's tastes are different and, of course, they're going to want the specific game they want and a (sometimes absurdly low) rock-bottom price.

I don't mind people being critical either, nor am I attempt to quash them but I think a lot of the disappointment stems from an unreasonable expectation of what the January promotion was about -- it wasn't necessarily going to top the December deals and anyone who experienced it last year would know that. Obviously there are people who didn't so I don't blame them as a lot of their expectations were fueled by fortunate/coincidental price matching from Steam last year.


You're not doing it right. If you don't use the coupons the hamsters at amazon will maul you to death.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

I need to understand what kind of responses you guys are looking for, if any, to complaints.

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How about "Here's a free game for you, here's a free game for you, and here's a free game for you!" ;)

I think that'd be sufficient! :lol:

#17645 Mooby

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

All that's well and good BUT if you're not enticing me to use my coupons you're missing out on sales. Why use a coupon to price match a deal somewhere else? That's like going out of my way to NOT be a CAG...



That's a fair point although it's a bit hard to predict what everyone wants and then get publishers to agree to those price points. Someone mentioned Saints Row 3 DLC. Since I got it from the HIB I opted against using my THQ promo coupon for that $2.50 complete pack (instead using it on Darksiders franchise) so... I guess I'd sort of be in the market for that. That said, I don't even know if I'd pay $2.50 for the DLC alone because most of it seems pretty trivial. Of course, other people are different.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

That Dragon Age deal is ridiculous. Gamergate had it for somewhere around $15 and I was so tempted to get it.

I am also tempted to by more copies of Saints Row full Package to give to my friends who still haven't gotten it yet ...

Thanks for the deals Tony. My only comments are (1) I love bundles, but rotate them a bit, unless they are game bundles like Dragon Age or NFS, etc. Those are awesome because its really easy to get into big series. (2) Where is that 1C bundle. I am still holding on to hope that it will someday be ready. I have been holding off on all 1C purchases for you.

#17647 espy

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

How about "Here's a free game for you, here's a free game for you, and here's a free game for you!" ;)

I think that'd be sufficient! :lol:


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#17648 hal

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

There have been legitimately great sales, Dark Souls for $13, Max Payne 3 for $10, Walking Dead $7.50, KoA Complete $10, Spec Ops $2.50, Darkness $2.50.

I'm not addressing this to you espy605, but I'm using your quote as a springboard to say this:

I bought three of the six examples you listed there. I already have the other three and I can still recognize that those are great deals.

Criticizing deals is fair enough, but you do have to recognize that not every deal listed on the EC will be a slam dunk for everyone. Lots of us own a fair amount of games and every title can't possibly hold universal appeal.

Looking at it objectively though, you have to admit that there are a few returning deals that are right at or around the prices they were at the height of the frenzy of December. Think of it as an encore. Many people (myself included) are getting another shot at some of those good deals thanks to the coupons. There have also been a few new-low-price deals featured via this promotion. It's seven days into a month long promotion and you ought to at least recognize what's been offered so far.

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#17649 asheskitty

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Edit: How do I make the little clapping man?


Since no one has pointed it out, beneath the various smilies on the right of the reply box there is a link that says "more" which opens another small window with all the smilies.

I don't even care if people complain. I'd prefer that they do so we can adjust. I'm just unsure how I'm supposed to respond.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

All that's well and good BUT if you're not enticing me to use my coupons you're missing out on sales. Why use a coupon to price match a deal somewhere else? That's like going out of my way to NOT be a CAG...


This is most definitely true :) which is why there have been more deals that you couldn't get through another site than not on the EC list so far:

1. Hotline Miami (even not counting the price glitch)
2. The Walking Dead
3. Dark Souls
4. The Upcoming Darksiders II Franchise Pack
5. The Upcoming THQ Medley
6. Need for Speed: The Run
7. Alice Collection
8. Battlefield 3 Premium Edition
9. Battlefield 3 Premium Service
10. Far Cry 3
11. The Crazy Action (formerly WTF) pack
12. The Desert to Sea Bundle
13. The Super Strategy Pack
14. NBA 2K13

None... most people on here just vent. It's not usually directed at anyone. Just frustrated venting. Just listen to the more constructive complaints and ignore the people who just want to complain to get it out of their system.


This is probably true, trying to be more diligent about answering every post/question at this point based on previous feedback.

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#17651 motoki

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

(2) Where is that 1C bundle. I am still holding on to hope that it will someday be ready. I have been holding off on all 1C purchases for you.


one SEE! one SEE! one SEE! one SEE!

Sorry, I just still really want to see that damned thing someday. Especially since the complete 1C pack on Steam hasn't been seen for over a year.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

Is the "Storming,Burning,Flaming,Something,Something pack" coming back?


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

1/18-1/20:
Need for Speed: The Run - $8.99 ($3.99 after coupon)
EA Sports Classic Pack - $8.99 ($3.99 after coupon)
Syndicate - $9.99 ($4.99 after coupon)


Gonna have to grab this trio. Nice price on NFS: TR, and I'll have to finally get those other two at that price. That'll leave me with 6 coupons to go :D Still hoping for TW: FotS... Thanks again, Tony!
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

The Darkness 2 for $2.50 was too hard to pass up even if I know nothing about the game. Only heard that it's good...and depressing

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

Is the "Storming,Burning,Flaming,Something,Something pack" coming back?


I think I asked EA about this in my last email. Checking back in now.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

The real problem with this promo is that we'll have to sit through a month of whining!

While Tony's updates are very much appreciated, Amazon itself doesn't do a very good job of promoting the EC list. Beyond the disclaimer on the EC page which states "Amazon reserves the right to change or terminate this promotion at any time." there isn't any real indication that the list will change at all. Unless I check the forums daily I have no idea when deals will expire or when new deals will appear. I'd much rather see Amazon explicitly state "these are the deals for the first week of January, check back next Monday for the second week's deals" or something like that... I also wouldn't mind some reminder e-mails from Amazon each time the EC list refreshes. If Amazon can spam my inbox with coupons for F2P game offers that I don't want they can certainly promote the EC coupon a bit better!

#17657 forthenguyen

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

Don't crucify me, here, but what games did 1C make, and what is this complete bundle and at what price?

#17658 goombahup

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:09 PM

Thank you so much for that Darksiders Franchise deal, i'm so eager to get it, since i missed it the first time, hopefully there will be enough keys :D

#17659 motoki

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

Don't crucify me, here, but what games did 1C make, and what is this complete bundle and at what price?



Last I remember, and it's been a while since it was discussed beyond 'whatever happened to that 1C pack', it was $15 for everything here:

http://store.steampo...sher/1C Company

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:11 PM

While Tony's updates are very much appreciated, Amazon itself doesn't do a very good job of promoting the EC list. Beyond the disclaimer on the EC page which states "Amazon reserves the right to change or terminate this promotion at any time." there isn't any real indication that the list will change at all. Unless I check the forums daily I have no idea when deals will expire or when new deals will appear. I'd much rather see Amazon explicitly state "these are the deals for the first week of January, check back next Monday for the second week's deals" or something like that... I also wouldn't mind some reminder e-mails from Amazon each time the EC list refreshes. If Amazon can spam my inbox with coupons for F2P game offers that I don't want they can certainly promote the EC coupon a bit better!


For real. We look at this pretty regularly and we're hoping to incorporate a calendar type view for upcoming deals. This won't address pricematching but should address upcoming stuff (as far out as we have it).

As for emails, this is a great idea.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:11 PM

I think people are just thinking out loud and venting like someone else said. If they said this all sucked and didn't add anymore, yeah, that's pointless in figuring out why or if someone just wanted something for free which isn't too fair.

I think georgebot84 saying he was disappointed and then adding why with 4 or 5 games that was less at other places or earlier was a good post and "disappointed" isn't that harsh of a word. Honestly, I was a bit underwhelmed with the DA:U pricing myself. (I was wrong about the Crysis pricing pack earlier which is the lowest I've seen so good deal there...unfortunately, I mostly play old games due to a slow machine so I can wait). On DA:U, a year later and a higher price? Ok, it's EA, we live with it and just don't buy which doesn't upset me or anyone really.All that said, I've been a big fan and support of Tony's sales and comments in the past if anyone sees my old posts, but I think we're all getting a bit too touchy if we can't bitch a little if the sale isn't as "great" as we wanted it to be. There's still more than 2/3rds of the month so more things will pop up.

I don't really expect to use all my coupons either and I bought the games earlier since those prices were at my acceptable price point so if Amazon can "coerce" me to buy even more with the coupon, more power to them.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

Don't crucify me, here, but what games did 1C make, and what is this complete bundle and at what price?


Last I remember, and it's been a while since it was discussed beyond 'whatever happened to that 1C pack', it was $15 for everything here:

http://store.steampo...sher/1C Company


An update to this is that we're waiting on the Strat First pack to do the stress test then figuring out the 1C bundle.

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#17663 mtxbass1

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

Why am I being guilt tripped by a passive aggressive marketer because I don't like particular deals?

I feel legitimately disheartened as a customer because I bought many things on the premise that the $5 coupons would benefit me in the future. Now the deals are bottom of the barrel or literally the exact same deals + $5.

Why cant I say I'm disappointed by that? Or that I think it sucks?


Then that's your own entitled hangup. There have been some stellar deals here in the past few days with these coupons, many of which have been pointed out repeatedly by the community. You don't like the deals, but many other people are just fine with them. What exactly were you expecting here? The only thing disappointing to this is this entitled, spoiled brat reaction from a vocal few on here. People are doing the same thing they did to Josh (the KMart rep) when we had them reach out to us for deals. It's disgusting.



#17664 Mooby

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

Tony,

I guess it would be beneficial to people who posted what they wanted and at what price point they'd be willing to pull the trigger/make use of their coupons. I'll dive right in but I know full well some of these price points just aren't happening until summer-ish.

(All prices after-coupon)

Hell Yeah -- $2.50ish
Realms of Ancient War -- $2.50ish
Risen 2 -- $5ish
X-Com -- $10ish (not happening, I know)


Stuff Amazon doesn't even carry but potentially could due to existing publisher relationships:

Alpha Protocol -- $2.50 to $3.75ish
Sacred 2 Gold -- $5ish
Amalur Steam version (lulz) -- $10-$15ish


Just an example of my eclectic taste and how hard it is to please everyone. All of that stuff would be 'insta-buy' no second thoughts at those price points.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

This question might've been asked before, but will there ever be a shopping cart for digital purchases where I can buy different games at the same time as opposed to just one at a time?
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#17666 asheskitty

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

Don't crucify me, here, but what games did 1C make, and what is this complete bundle and at what price?



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

Oops you CAN get Alice 1 with the Steam key. First you need to register the steam key in Steam. When you are in your library bring Alice: Madness Returns up. Copy the CD key from the link in the description. Paste the key into Origin as a product. When you download the Origin version, it includes Alice 1.

I have not personally tried it but this may mean that you only need the standard steam key.


Sadly i can't confirm this. I just registered Alice Steam Key on Origin and it shows up in the Library just as "Alice: Madness Returns".

Haven't tried downloading it right now, but i doubt there is Alice 1 bundled with it, hopefully someone can prove me wrong.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

Gonna have to grab this trio. Nice price on NFS: TR, and I'll have to finally get those other two at that price. That'll leave me with 6 coupons to go :D Still hoping for TW: FotS... Thanks again, Tony!


NFS: The Run surely was worth the Lincoln, when Tony ran that deal a bit back.
At $4 after coupon - that's even better. :D

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

Yes, a lot of the complaining and whining isn't helping Tony (or Amazon), but at the same time, replying with "Tony is da best" or "Whiners just want free games" isn't helping either.

A lot of the deals that Amazon have provided since Black Friday have been great (2K Packs and Darksiders for example) and I think overall Amazon kicked Steam's ass this holiday season.

However, if Amazon is have people consider their January Editor's Choice sale as a super-sale event -- one of the best of the year, then it must step-up.
Tony has been presenting a lot of the games as being a great deal AFTER COUPON. But Amazon must keep in mind that not everyone have those $5 coupons. If we are to compare the BEFORE COUPON price with previous deals that Amazon, Steam, and others have had, then this Editor's Choice Event has been lackluster.
That's not to knock on Tony -- he's been a great representative for both Amazon and gamers -- nor is it a complaint, but it's an honest criticism of this sale thus far.

Again, I want to re-iterate: Amazon has kicked Steam's ass in deals this season, but the Editor's Choice Sale hasn't been as good as previous Sales that Amazon and their competitors have had, in my opinion.

#17670 Mooby

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

Then that's your own entitled hangup. There have been some stellar deals here in the past few days with these coupons, many of which have been pointed out repeatedly by the community. You don't like the deals, but many other people are just fine with them. What exactly were you expecting here? The only thing disappointing to this is this entitled, spoiled brat reaction from a vocal few on here. People are doing the same thing they did to Josh (the KMart rep) when we had them reach out to us for deals. It's disgusting.



Bingo. Anyone who bought the games they did based mostly off of the $5 coupons has only themselves to blame. I bought the games in December because they were good deals.