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#121 mossfan563

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:19 PM

A lot more meh this upcoming week...

Best Buy

Zumba Fitness Core (:360:, :wii:) - $39.99
Dance Central 3, Harry Potter for the Kinect or Kinect Sports Ultimate Collection (:360:) - $49.99
Doom 3 BFG Edition (:360:, :ps3:) - $39.99, (:pc:, digital download) - $29.99
007 Legends (:360:, :ps3:) - $59.99
XCOM: Enemy Unknown (:360:, :ps3:, :pc:) - $59.99, (digital download) - $49.99
Rocksmith (:360:, :ps3:) - $79.99

Save $50 on the Xbox 360 Holiday Bundles + 50% off 3-month sub to Xbox Live Gold
Xbox 360 4GB Kinect Holiday Bundle (was $299.99) - $249.99
-comes with Kinect Sensor, Kinect Adventures! and Disneyland Adventures

Xbox 360 250GB Kinect Holiday Bundle (was $399.99) - $349.99
-comes with Kinect Sensor, Kinect Adventures!, Kinect Sports and token to download Dance Central 2

Xbox 360 250GB Holiday Bundle (was $299.99) - $249.99
-comes with Forza 4 and Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

50% Bonus Trade-in Credit on any game (continues)

Buy 2 Pre-owned games, Get the 3rd free.

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Same sale on Xbox 360 Holiday Bundles (see Best Buy).

Dance Central 3 (:360:) - $49.99
Zumba Fitness Core (:360:, :wii:) - $39.99
007 Legends (:360:, :ps3:) - $59.99
Pokemon Black 2 or Pokemon White 2 (:ds:) - $34.99
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#122 JohnWayne

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

I wonder if the holiday bundles will be like $150 on black Friday, that would be sweet.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:28 PM

we're in the countdown to black friday(about 6 weeks) so true "deals" overall will be slim. The only thing I'd expect really would be a b2g1 from someplace & the usual $40 sale prices. Plus for BB most of the top tier titles already have the best deal to them.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:35 PM

were in the countdown to black friday(about 6 weeks) so true "deals" overall will be slim. The only thing I'd expect really would be a b2g1 from someplace & the usual $40 sale prices. lus for BB most of the top tier titles already have the best deal to them.


You never know with the new xboxs being announced next year.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:37 PM

I will be very surprised if it still works. As you can see in this thread TRU is pretty bad when it comes to gift card expirations.


so what are the general expiration on these tru gift cards? one to two months?

#126 karkyco

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:02 PM

This. You have to compare apples to apples. A more appropriate comparison is considering value when you buy it as 6 games (2 sets of B2G1 vs. 3 sets of pairs). The original B2G1 nets you a $120 value while the new promo nets you a $150 promo.


If you're going to compare apples to apples, as you put it, you need to look at more than just the value of the promo received ($120 when doing 2 B2G1 for 6 games versus $150 when buying 6 games with this deal). If you buy 6 games in the B2G1, your cost, assuming you are buying 4 $60 games, is $240 or $40 per game.

With this deal, in order to get your $150 promo, you need to purchase 6 $60 games, i.e. $360 (i.e. you get $510 worth of goods for $360 spent, a savings of just about 29.5% off versus 33.3333% off for B2G1).

Of course, if you chain the giftcards (unfortunately you have to account for the 6 hour activation delay), you can beat the B2G1 savings as you work towards approaching the maximum possible discount of $25 per game (versus the obvious $20 savings per game for the B2G1). It would take chaining this deal 4 times (5 separate purchases of 2 games = $120 initial purchase + $70 + $70 + $70 + $70 = $400) just to match the discount of B2G1. On the 6th transaction of chaining this deal, you would beat the savings per game on B2G1...by about 83 cents per game :roll:

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#127 JP73

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:05 PM

I checked out my local Kmart ad online and saw that it's for Pokemon Black & White 2 for 29.99? Not sure if it's a mistake?

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#128 cancerman1120

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:13 PM

I wonder if those Xbox bundles are a drop or a sale?

#129 GBAstar

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:15 PM

If you're going to compare apples to apples, as you put it, you need to look at more than just the value of the promo received ($120 when doing 2 B2G1 for 6 games versus $150 when buying 6 games with this deal). If you buy 6 games in the B2G1, your cost, assuming you are buying 4 $60 games, is $240 or $40 per game.

With this deal, in order to get your $150 promo, you need to purchase 6 $60 games, i.e. $360 (i.e. you get $510 worth of goods for $360 spent, a savings of just about 29.5% off versus 33.3333% off for B2G1).

Of course, if you chain the giftcards (unfortunately you have to account for the 6 hour activation delay), you can beat the B2G1 savings as you work towards approaching the maximum possible discount of $25 per game (versus the obvious $20 savings per game for the B2G1). It would take chaining this deal 4 times (5 separate purchases of 2 games = $120 initial purchase + $70 + $70 + $70 + $70 = $400) just to match the discount of B2G1. On the 6th transaction of chaining this deal, you would beat the savings per game on B2G1...by about 83 cents per game :roll:



...yawn...

and you would still have a $50 GC left over. :roll::roll::roll:

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:17 PM

so what are the general expiration on these tru gift cards? one to two months?

Mine was either 90 days or through December, can't remember which (got it in October). I want to say it was 90 days. However, if these are promotional cards or w/e you call them then it's possible it may be less. To me, it looks like a ploy to get you to do some of your Xmas shopping there so I wouldn't be surprised in the least to find out that they expired December 31st. IIRC December is when they make around 90-95% of their profits (with October being their only other big month, Halloween costumes I guess), and they are hurting pretty bad now, so it makes sense for them to put an expiration date on these cards to get you to do your XMas shopping there.

And I saw somebody else in this thread say that you could just use your gift card to buy a new gift card/certificate, why would you think they'd allow that? :roll:

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#131 GBAstar

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:21 PM

Promotional Gift Cards expire. Standard Gift cards do not.. because.. you know.. their are laws against that.

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#132 smacd101

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:23 PM

This is an ok deal but not really worth the effort to save $13 or so per game over retail assuming I bought 3 games total, and that's not including gas. Maybe if I hadn't already bought Dishonored or Borderlands 2 I'd think about getting in on this but probably not. I really just wanted to say this deal kind of blows, at least from my perspective.


That doesn't make any sense. Presumably you paid full price for Dishonored and Borderlands 2. You wouldn't buy them next week if you didn't already have them and take the free $50 gift card?

Heck, what you should do is buy them next week then return the unopened copies to the place where you bought the origianls for refunds. Then you still get the free $50 gift card.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:24 PM

This is almost as good as a B2G1 if you ask me...I'd rather have a $50 gift card, so I'm not forced to pick a third game for the deal. Maybe I only want two, and then I have most of another game I want paid for upon release.

Makes me wish I had waited on Dishonored and XCOM...could have had an extra $15 in promotional gift stuffs with TRU's deal.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:27 PM

Well this sucks, but I guess its better to save now and then go ape shit crazy st 5 am in the store trying to find all the good sale items.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:34 PM

If you're going to compare apples to apples, as you put it, you need to look at more than just the value of the promo received ($120 when doing 2 B2G1 for 6 games versus $150 when buying 6 games with this deal). If you buy 6 games in the B2G1, your cost, assuming you are buying 4 $60 games, is $240 or $40 per game.

With this deal, in order to get your $150 promo, you need to purchase 6 $60 games, i.e. $360 (i.e. you get $510 worth of goods for $360 spent, a savings of just about 29.5% off versus 33.3333% off for B2G1).

Of course, if you chain the giftcards (unfortunately you have to account for the 6 hour activation delay), you can beat the B2G1 savings as you work towards approaching the maximum possible discount of $25 per game (versus the obvious $20 savings per game for the B2G1). It would take chaining this deal 4 times (5 separate purchases of 2 games = $120 initial purchase + $70 + $70 + $70 + $70 = $400) just to match the discount of B2G1. On the 6th transaction of chaining this deal, you would beat the savings per game on B2G1...by about 83 cents per game :roll:


lol wut.

You miscalculated the 29.5% savings. You're not paying $510. My post was simpler in that your value per game is $25 versus $20. Put it this way, the receipt will ring up the eligible games as:
B2GC promo
$35 return value (42% savings off MSRP)

B2G1 promo
$40 return value (34% savings off MSRP)

The chaining is irrelevant Karkyco. It only has cash flow considerations which my argument was from purely a value perspective. The minute you've paid for 2 games, you've automatically maxed out on the deal. You're not stuck having to find a 3rd game.

Whats confusing you is the 3rd game since these promos are disimiliar. Nice try though :)

#136 karkyco

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:38 PM

...yawn...

and you would still have a $50 GC left over. :roll::roll::roll:


Ah yes, you're right. So it would take 2 of these transactions to beat B2G1.

The limitation of this deal to full price $59.99 X360 and PS3 games is the real killer, for me at least. Even as you approach the max savings of $25 off per game, how many games are there worth buying?

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

Not sure if anybody else here has a Capital One credit card but they've got a feature deal ending 10/17. You get $10 credit on any purchase you make at TRU. :bouncy:

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:43 PM

lol wut.
B2GC promo
$35 return value (42% savings off MSRP)

B2G1 promo
$40 return value (34% savings off MSRP)

This modelling is inaccurate. To compare B2GC and B2G1, you have level them so that you have purchased the same amount of games, and other factors. If you calculate the average cost of buying 2 games with B2GC, and the average cost of B2G1, B2GC would have the advantage not considering the GC scaling factor.

A simple counterexample. I wanted to buy 3 $59.99 games right now, and these games do not have any discounts anywhere. For B2G1 I would pay $119.98 + tax on $119.98, for B2GC I would pay $129.97 + tax on $179.97, assuming I use the $50 GC to purchase the third game.

To compare those two, you need a assumption on the number of games in need, and assumptions comparing purchase options elsewhere. In summary, you cannot compare those two promos, mathematically, without knowing the data input, i.e. the games that you need to buy at TRU.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:44 PM

OP, thanks...and you missed a 1 in the title. B2G1 on PO will come in handy (at least on Sunday)

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:44 PM

Ah yes, you're right. So it would take 2 of these transactions to beat B2G1.

The limitation of this deal to full price $59.99 X360 and PS3 games is the real killer, for me at least. Even as you approach the max savings of $25 off per game, how many games are there worth buying?


Exactly. If they'd do something similiar for Wii/3DS titles I wouldn't be nearly so annoyed. This is always the time of year I rack up on my 1st party Nintendo games.

I guess it's my fault, I shouldn't have been counting on this sale the way I was, but my Nintendo systems are going to be seeing much less attention without it. And I guess I'm gonna have to suck it up and pay full price for Pokemon B2 for my nephew :cry:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:47 PM

I also disagree about the arguments against the TRU gift card deals. TRU has had good deals during the holiday seasons in the past. I see no reason how you wouldn't be able to redeem these anyways.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:48 PM

Well no stacks this week at bestbuy which sucks. Then again there could always be a msrp drop. Not to mention I havent gotten my mag yet so its all good :)
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:51 PM

If you buy a lot of games $50 GC is better than b2g1 free (except for the whole 6 hour wait thing)

if you "chain" the GC and keep using them the discount is 41.66% (or 38.76% with tax for me)

versus 33.33% with b2g1 free

38% savings > 33.33% savings

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:51 PM

tru had some pretty interesting deals lately. i am going to keep an closer eye on their weekly deals for now on.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:52 PM

I also disagree about the arguments against the TRU gift card deals. TRU has had good deals during the holiday seasons in the past. I see no reason how you wouldn't be able to redeem these anyways.


Not to mention they typically (for the last two years) run a promotion from November-Christmas where you earn 10% back in TRU rewards on all your purchases (up to $50 in rewards).

I don't like how they issue rewards (they expire in like two weeks after being issued) but they do work on video games now.

#146 karkyco

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:54 PM

lol wut.

You miscalculated the 29.5% savings. You're not paying $510. My post was simpler in that your value per game is $25 versus $20. Put it this way, the receipt will ring up the eligible games as:
B2GC promo
$35 return value (42% savings off MSRP)

B2G1 promo
$40 return value (34% savings off MSRP)

The chaining is irrelevant Karkyco. It only has cash flow considerations which my argument was from purely a value perspective. The minute you've paid for 2 games, you've automatically maxed out on the deal. You're not stuck having to find a 3rd game.

Whats confusing you is the 3rd game since these promos are disimiliar. Nice try though :)


Donut, you can't max out the savings on this deal without chaining multiple transactions. The first deal will be getting $170 worth of goods for $120 (plus tax, if applicable). The savings would be $50 off of the $170 value of goods you are getting, or $50/170 = 29.4% off. If you don't chain the promo, this will always be the maximum savings (again, not considering tax or future deals off of whatever you spend the $50 GC on) regardless of how many transactions you perform. You will always be getting a multiple of $170 worth of goods for the same multiple of $120 cost per transaction if you don't chain.

As Confoosius noted and we all know, you can't apply the gift card to the same transaction you get it from. That would be the only way to get the max savings of 41% off. Of course, if someone considers a TRU giftcard the same as cash, after one transaction you can say that you got those two games for $35 a piece...along with a $50 gift card. In any case, you've still spent $120 to get $170 worth of goods.

Now if you chain the giftcards, here are the savings:

transaction 1 = $170 worth of goods for $120, so $50 off of $170 = 29.4% savings

transaction 2 = $290 worth of goods for $190, so $100 off of $290 = 34.5% savings

transaction 3 = $410 worth of goods for $260, so $150 off of $410 = 36.6% savings

...transaction n, where the max you are saving is basically $25 off every $60 game = 41.66% savings.

I'm not saying this is a bad deal, just that performing only one round of this deal is worse than B2G1. The price and system limitations also work against this deal, at least for me. Of course, with B2G1 you have the limitation of requiring 3 games of the same value to maximize the deal. Each one of these deals has their own pros and cons relative to each other...

Edited by karkyco, 11 October 2012 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:56 PM

This modelling is inaccurate. To compare B2GC and B2G1, you have level them so that you have purchased the same amount of games, and other factors. If you calculate the average cost of buying 2 games with B2GC, and the average cost of B2G1, B2GC would have the advantage not considering the GC scaling factor.

A simple counterexample. I wanted to buy 3 $59.99 games right now, and these games do not have any discounts anywhere. For B2G1 I would pay $119.98 + tax on $119.98, for B2GC I would pay $129.97 + tax on $179.97.

To compare those two, you need a assumption on the number of games in need, and assumptions comparing purchase options elsewhere. In summary, you cannot compare those two promos, mathematically, without knowing the data input, i.e. the games that you need to buy at TRU.


If you need 3 games, then buy 4 and sell the extra game. You don't have to know the input if you can sell the extra that you don't need. Obviously if you buy an odd number b2g1 is better because this promo is for even number of games.

if you buy 6 games
$120+$50GC +($120-$50) + ($120-$50) = paid $260 + have a $50 GC (having used the other giftcards)
b2g1: 120*3= $240 and no GC

so what is better paying $260 for 6 games and a $50 GC or paying $240 for 6 games

If you value a $50 gc at more than $20 cash then the GC is better than b2g1 free.. period

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:57 PM

This modelling is inaccurate. To compare B2GC and B2G1, you have level them so that you have purchased the same amount of games, and other factors. If you calculate the average cost of buying 2 games with B2GC, and the average cost of B2G1, B2GC would have the advantage not considering the GC scaling factor.

A simple counterexample. I wanted to buy 3 $59.99 games right now, and these games do not have any discounts anywhere. For B2G1 I would pay $119.98 + tax on $119.98, for B2GC I would pay $129.97 + tax on $179.97.

To compare those two, you need a assumption on the number of games in need, and assumptions comparing purchase options elsewhere. In summary, you cannot compare those two promos, mathematically, without knowing the data input, i.e. the games that you need to buy at TRU.


For the scope of this discussion, I'm trying to make it as simplistic as possible (as this thread would be at risk of deletion if we were to get too OT) before we lose the CAG members here but yes I agree on the tax factor. There will be a slight offset against the B2GC promo since there is no tax on every 3rd game in the B2G1 as compared to the B2GC. I don't mean to get into long winded posts comparing deals but I think you understand my point.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:11 PM

If you need 3 games, then buy 4 and sell the extra game. You don't have to know the input if you can sell the extra that you don't need. Obviously if you buy an odd number b2g1 is better because this promo is for even number of games.

if you buy 6 games
$120+$50GC +($120-$50) + ($120-$50) = paid $260 + have a $50 GC (having used the other giftcards)
b2g1: 120*3= $240 and no GC

so what is better paying $260 for 6 games and a $50 GC or paying $240 for 6 games

If you value a $50 gc at more than $20 cash then the GC is better than b2g1 free.. period

You would need the data input to make accurate comparison, if you need to buy x games where x>4 then the comparison can be summarized as follows, if you need to buy less than four then the comparison is different, if you consider selling than you would need a scaling factor depending on your selling capabilities. By definition the comparison model I was undertaking does depend on x.
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So, if you buy x (x>=4, x is even) games that are valued at $59.99 (rounded to $60 in the discussion below) at TRU, assume your tax rate is T:
B2GC: pay 60x + 60x*T - 25x + 50, but you have $50 GC in hand (assuming you can chain the GCs)
B2G1: pay 40x + 40x*T

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