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#211 whoknows

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:47 AM

Not exactly. That specific connection to Avengers is more coincidental, but that theme is the one that the movie was marketed as having since the beginning.


I must have missed that since that's not at all what the trailers lead me to expect. In fact, the trailers aren't at all what the movie is like.

I think its better to expect wolverine to be an entertaining movie, rather than an epic one. Otherwise, youd feel disapppointed.

I expected iron man 3 to be epic. Bad mistake.

I expected Dredd to be entertaining, and the movie turned out pretty darn deep. Its a really good movie


Dredd doesn't get enough praise. It's one of the best comic movies ever easily. Was better than both of other two huge comic movies of last year IMO and I wasn't expecting that at all. It's what a comic movie should be.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:07 AM

Im really curious though,
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:15 AM

I agree completely, but if I recall correctly, Pirates of the Caribbean wasn't exactly kid-friendly and lots of people died...especially for a Disney movie.

I guess it's different when it's wet in the past for some reason. Getting killed by a sword or musket must be different to them somehow. Less realistic maybe?
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:34 AM

Im really curious though,

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:51 AM

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:01 AM

I would. Marvel has done plenty of dark stories in comics, and Warner Bros allowed the recent Batman films to be quite dark. This is a big budget Disney film in essence and they gotta keep it kid friendly. Which explains why a certain character is in the movie as well.;)

After how big of a flop Batman and Robin was, DC/Warner Bros had to separate itself from that film as far as possible. I Think Shane Black himself said it was better to explore the Demon in a Bottle storyline in Iron Man once the franchise is on it's last knees. Otherwise there's no reason to change the formula now when it's making all this money.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:11 AM

Going back, anyone else notice that Killian was the human version of The Mandarin's Fing Fang Foom complete with dragon tattoos and fire breath.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

As soon as he went Breathe of Fire I kinda zoned out. That was one of the more ridiculous scenes.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

As soon as he went Breathe of Fire I kinda zoned out. That was one of the more ridiculous scenes.


I really liked the movie, that was one scene I wish had been left out. It was a completely throwaway moment that added nothing to the larger story and only took away from the movie.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

So he managed to ruin The Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom, cool. Throw away more main characters please.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

One thing I saw was (not a plot thing but will spoiler anyways)
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:26 PM

I honestly wish they'd left the whole Mandarin concept out, changed Killian's name, and basically made him MODOK. Not the fat head dude in a hoverchair, but just an awesomely brilliant mind who could go toe toe with Tony. It would have made more sense since they used A.I.M as well. Because honestly they turned Mandarin into a joke, a "twist" that wasn't really needed.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:09 PM

Ben Kinglsey is a phenomenal actor but man is his talent wasted lol

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

Well I am sure Marvel is not too worried about upsetting the comic fans after seeing IM3 already at $50 million more than IM2 made worldwide. $500 million overseas already. Comic fans will just need to accept the Marvel Cinematic Universe is going to cater to the largest group of movie goers and that not the die hards.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:25 PM

Well I am sure Marvel is not too worried about upsetting the comic fans after seeing IM3 already at $50 million more than IM2 made worldwide. $500 million overseas already. Comic fans will just need to accept the Marvel Cinematic Universe is going to cater to the largest group of movie goers and that not the die hards.


Let's be clear, there ain't as many diehards as the internet would have you believe. If all these people were actually reading comics on a regular basis Marvel would have been the one buying Disney.

I'm completely fine with things being different, even wildly different for the simple fact that: A) the look and plots of comics are often too fantastical for movies and B) I want some variety in my stories otherwise I'll never be surprised.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:45 PM

So what did everyone think of the Special Effects? I think the trailers ruined all the good fx shots...for example Stark's house getting blown up and falling into the sea. There wasn't anything in my mind that stood out as "WOW" as much as the first one.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

Let's be clear, there ain't as many diehards as the internet would have you believe. If all these people were actually reading comics on a regular basis Marvel would have been the one buying Disney.

I'm completely fine with things being different, even wildly different for the simple fact that: A) the look and plots of comics are often too fantastical for movies and B) I want some variety in my stories otherwise I'll never be surprised.


Oh I agree. I was perfectly fine with how the set up the story. I saw it twice this weekend and liked it even more the second time. Some people complained it was too much Stark and not enough suit but I actually loved the stuff with Tony out of the suit. It fit the theme of the third film perfectly.

I agree though. The diehards are not in the numbers their voices on the internet portray.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:07 PM

So what did everyone think of the Special Effects? I think the trailers ruined all the good fx shots...for example Stark's house getting blown up and falling into the sea. There wasn't anything in my mind that stood out as "WOW" as much as the first one.


The Extremis effects were pretty cool (not mind blowing) and since I do not remember any of that showing up in a trailer it was nice surprise. The plane rescue scene was pretty well done also.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:10 PM

The plane rescue scene actually very little special effects outside of Iron Man's suit. That was done with trained skydivers.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

Yeah...Honestly I think it was better than the whole sky jump scene from Transformers:DOTM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 11:06 PM

One thing I saw was (not a plot thing but will spoiler anyways)

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He got it from the guard guy he knocked out to steal the uniform from.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:12 AM

The plane rescue scene was pretty well done also.

Thank you sooooooooooo much for reminding me of that stupid sequence. I had repressed it until now lol. Of all the things I never thought I'd see in an Iron Man movie, that one was probably at the top. That kind of corny shit belongs in bad movies, like Green Lantern.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:15 AM

Thank you sooooooooooo much for reminding me of that stupid sequence. I had repressed it until now lol. Of all the things I never thought I'd see in an Iron Man movie, that one was probably at the top. That kind of corny shit belongs in bad movies, like Green Lantern.


I actually compared those two movies as well oddly enough, but in a different way.

Both movies had amazing trailers that hyped me up, but the actual movies ended up being disappointing and nothing like the trailers.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:59 AM

I'm spoilering things that most of us probably know but people unfamiliar with the comics may not. Don't want to ruin future happenings in the movies or what people may read. When it comes to the villian situation of the movie they were really stuck. Iron Man has a very disappointing rogues gallery, especially when it comes to using them for movies. The first movie used the Stane stuff. The second movie uses the "other guy with a suit" and the Hammer stuff. Without using "other guy in a suit" they were really only left with the Mandarin and the use of people as smart as Tony. I find Mandarin stories in the comics some of my favorite so I'll admit that I was disappointed by the movie Mandarin
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I can see why they did it though in the sense of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, if they were going to use the Mandarin. They are laying out Thanos for the Avengers 2, so
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Comic book people know those are different items and completely different stories but the general public would see Thanos as something that would've been done already if they used the Mandarin story completely. The other problem with the Mandarin is the character is that he is much better with over-arching schemes. If they were going to use Mandarin they would have been better off alluding to the Mandarin in the first movie (yes the terrorists were the "Ten Rings", more substantial than that) and doing more building of the character in the second movie with the third movie being the big plan/final showdown. Honestly they would've been better off leaving that character out all together if they weren't going to do something along those lines.

People talk about how they should have used the alcoholism story for this movie, and while I think RDJ would've done it great justice, they did a very small allusion to it in the second movie with the blood poisoning and recklessness. To an extent they cleared it up by the end of the second movie, sort of, so using the full blown story for the third movie wouldn't have worked as well as people hoped. Others have expressed disappointment in Tony
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Overall it's not the best movie in the world by any means but it's a good popcorn movie that I enjoyed and had fun with. It's a nice bookend to the RDJ Iron Man movies and it's not near as rage worthy as the mouth breathers on the internet have been making it out to be.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:22 AM

Ben Kinglsey is a phenomenal actor but man is his talent wasted lol



Kingsley is undoubtedly an exceptional talent, but he is far from selective of his roles.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:29 AM

Kingsley is undoubtedly an exceptional talent, but he is far from selective of his roles.

I really think he picks some roles just for the fact it'll screw with people's heads.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:31 AM

He was amazing in Prince of Persia.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:52 AM

Or, like Christopher Walken, he just loves acting and wants to do it all the time.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:55 AM

Considering how freaked out the events in Avengers made Tony, I kinda feel like his alcoholism would have made more sense in this film than the second. They could have made it so that he was using alcohol to deal with his panic attacks.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:58 AM

Considering how freaked out the events in Avengers made Tony, I kinda feel like his alcoholism would have made more sense in this film than the second. They could have made it so that he was using alcohol to deal with his panic attacks.


Then again, he was dying in IM2, so drinking your worries away there was understandable too.