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#511 Ryuukishi

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

I also think it's hilarious and awesome to create a tiny, super-thin little female character and then have her wreck shop with gigantic weapons. I have a real Joss Whedon complex.

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#512 TheLongshot

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

I guess I should have assumed that Japanese art style/direction + European setting = Japanese storytelling.

I think I would have liked the game better if it had been a little more gritty. Less silly.


Personally, I think there are enough gritty WWII-styled games. BTW, running people over with a tank isn't really compatible with turn-based games. Maybe you can give someone a chance to evade...

As for female characters, I tend to like to play female characters in fighters. Back in the day, I played a lot of Chung-Li in Street Fighter II.

I did roll up a FemShep in Mass Effect, but I haven't played much with her.
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#513 Zmonkay

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:20 PM

how do ya'll feel about gender crossplay in RPGs? i'm trying to lay the groundwork for an upcoming article addressing the reasons why some men play as women, and as i'm not freud, i'm sort of stumped.


Like others said, I usually play male because I'm male, and in WRPGs like to feel more like it's "me". I generally attempt a female alt play just to see what's changed, but usually never finish because it's usually the exact same dialogue and choices etc just spoken from a female voice.

I understand that it would be an unrealistic amount of work to change up the dialogue on a character by character basis (hell, I'm impressed when there's even racial recognition in most games) though.

I do plan on doing a full fem-shep replay of the series though, mainly cuz It'll also be a first time renegade playthrough, and Jennifer Hale is an awesome voice actress.
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#514 The Crotch

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

For what it's worth, regardless of what gender I'm playing, I never really try to play the character "like me", in either appearance or personality.

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#515 GhostShark

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

But are they like super sexualized/feminine male elfs?

Cuz I know someone that does that.


If I remember correctly, she played a male dwarf rogue and a male human paladin.
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#516 kainzero

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

It was quaint middle ages-ish WW 2, but then instead of tossing in "human" characters, they made them all anime-ish. Hell, in the first 10 minutes she arrests the main character because he's drawing pictures in a book, cue the little surprised mark above his head.
Then someone gives birth in a tank? And the plucky young heroine who learns to overcome her fear, and wish everyone would stop fighting!

And someone tragically dies but it's okay because the girl who was dreaming of being a singer will sing at her grave!
And the heroine who kills lots of people, then goes back home to bake bread. Ice cold veins.

Gee, who would have thunk that a Japanese game would have Japanese conventions for the plot?

Personally, I like it because it plays like a WWII feel-good Hollywood film, where the good guys are in the right and the bad guys are bad.

I thought it would be more nitty-gritty and less... kawaii, for lack of a better word. (Maybe cutesy? Whimsical?) Especially because I thought the game set itself up like that.
Granted, it was still a fun and intriguing game. I also like Welkin's character.

VC2 was kind of silly though. Gameplay was good but not so sure about the story. I think I got to the final month and stopped playing. I spent way too much time with optional missions.

I should probably play VC3 again... maybe, maybe my Japanese is good enough to play it now. It definitely evokes a more VC1 flavor though.




As for avatars, I tend to choose ultra-sexed out female characters unless I want to "be myself" in which I try to make myself. The only other character I would choose are the super huge larger-than-life guys, like say... ZANGIEF.
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#517 Zmonkay

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:49 AM

For what it's worth, regardless of what gender I'm playing, I never really try to play the character "like me", in either appearance or personality.


Oh, I like to think they are me, not that I'm playing "me". Reaper invasion? I don't think running away in abject terror makes a good hero :p

As for avatars, I tend to choose ultra-sexed out female characters unless I want to "be myself" in which I try to make myself. The only other character I would choose are the super huge larger-than-life guys, like say... ZANGIEF.


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#518 The Crotch

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

Oh, I like to think they are me, not that I'm playing "me". Reaper invasion? I don't think running away in abject terror makes a good hero :p

That took a lot of readings for me to understand. I guess it'd be more accurate to say that you like to think that you are them?

Also, I think I've finally reached the point in Xenoblade where crafting gems isn't a waste of my god damn time.

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#519 Indignate

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

Me too. I read it four times before I realized that I really didn't care in the first place.

And gems are always not a waste. You were doing it wrong.

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#520 eldergamer

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

I usually play a male (when there's a choice). I try and make him a more idealized version of myself. Better in shape, always making the "right" decisions.

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#521 Indignate

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

So it's not you? Got it.

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#522 Zmonkay

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

lol I really gotta work on this whole "coherent" thing I keep hearing about...

Also I was constantly crafting gems in Xenoblade... and was rarely well rewarded for my time...
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#523 Indignate

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

What?

Get that big backstab bonus on Shulk and he'll wreak fools.

Then throw a bunch of whatever increases avoidance rate on Dunban and he'll ninja everything.

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#524 The Crotch

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

I didn't say that gem crafting was pointless, just that it was pointless before a certain point. For a significant stretch of the game, 95% of the gems you craft will be at best equal to and usually worse than gems you find.

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#525 Indignate

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

Yeah, you were doing it wrong.

That's cool, man. I don't really care, not a big deal.

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#526 The Crotch

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:14 AM

So what fantastic level 2 gems were you making?

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#527 Indignate

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:16 AM

Backstab and agility increase?

I don't know, I haven't played that game in like a year.

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#528 luxuria

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:00 AM

Decided to buy Xenoblade Chronicles after watching gameplay videos earlier. Don't have a Wii so I ended up downloading the game for my PC. Figured I might as well support the company by buying the game. Totally excited.

Been playing some Legend of Dragoon. Diggin' the soundtrack. Combat is... fun I guess?

#529 eldergamer

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:26 AM

Two or three battlefields left in Yggdra Union. Let's see if I can finish it this weekend.

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#530 Indignate

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

Been playing some Legend of Dragoon. Diggin' the soundtrack. Combat is... fun I guess?


I don't remember anything from the soundtrack. Combat is legit though.

Gust of Wind Dance.

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#531 The Crotch

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

"It turns out the only thing that can really take down the planes is intellectual property ownership."

There's a kinda pretty massive Planescape Torment spoiler in the interview, though.

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#532 luxuria

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:54 PM



I dunno, I got pumped when I first heard this, though it is a bit repetitive.

I'm about five hours into Xenoblade Chronicles.
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Yo, like, what's up with the music? It might be one of the best soundtracks I've heard in years, and I'm only just starting the game.



Love this song.

#533 Indignate

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

Speaking of RPGs that nobody played.

Dragon's Dogma is still amazingly great. There's a part where you can just fall forever past different floors cuz you teleport to the top when you hit the bottom. Now, you "can" grab onto the ledges to pull yourself up onto any of the floors, but you're better off just straight faceplanting onto one of them which only takes an insignificant amount of health loss.

Again, it's amazing.

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#534 Indignate

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:58 PM



I dunno, I got pumped when I first heard this, though it is a bit repetitive.


I totally remember this beat. You've done proved me wrong.

I'm about five hours into Xenoblade Chronicles.

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Don't be so naive. I mean, I haven't gotten to a part that confirms or denies this, but please.

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#535 luxuria

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

Don't be so naive. I mean, I haven't gotten to a part that confirms or denies this, but please.


I like songs that make me want to kick some ass. You're right though, it is a bit too early to tell just how good (or bad) the soundtrack is as a whole. Still, from what I've heard so far, it's pretty nice.

I'm surprised I made it to the five hour mark. I've been starting up games and quitting within the first hour quite a bit recently. :-#

#536 KingBroly

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:45 AM

Theatrhythm Final Fantasy is a pretty good traditional Final Fantasy game. I recommend it.

And yeah, I went there.
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#537 Zmonkay

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

Xenoblade did indeed have a fantastic OST.

Also, Theatrhythm is an amazing game and I would totally kill for a ChronoTrigger or Nintendo branded "version" of the game.
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#538 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

Started Recettear yesterday. Decided to not give up on Dragon's Dogma but hold it till after I experience Ni No Kuni because Dragon's Dogma has been kicking my ass.

Recettear is really fun but then again I only finished my first week of the game.
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#539 kainzero

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

i finally beat the crap out of that wolf that kicked my ass in baldur's gate

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#540 eldergamer

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

And an end to Yggdra Union. One of the better SRPGs I've played in a while. I actually kept the voice acting on during the game too, which I rarely do.

It was diffuclt, but fun. And didn't require understanding and memorizing several complicated rule systems like NIS games. (Which you then ignore once you figure out a grinding cheat to over-level)

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