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#691 j-cart

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:59 PM

Unacceptable.

In other news, SWTOR 1.7 is bound to drop soon. This means PvP is back on Ilum!

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#692 Indignate

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

My superhero alter-ego is named PsyChick.

Coincidentally, the only character I made when I played SWTOR during a free trial is also named PsyChick.

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#693 panzerfaust

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

How's Witcher treating you, panzerfunk?


just completed the first chapter and entered the city of Vizima. i'm not sure if the witch vs townspeople dilemma was supposed to be a hard decision as i didn't have quite enough information to condemn her. i don't even know how witchcraft works or what she's capable of, so i just fucked her and killed the crazies, then died quite a few times on the demon dog until i fought him drunk which made things a whole lot easier.

so nothing too impressive yet, though the combat is fun enough -- did you not play with the over the shoulder camera? it's pretty smooth and i think it feels good when you got the timings down, plus the combos look pretty extravagant and all. dunno, it doesn't feel terrible or anything. im also enjoying collecting all the formulas and learning new herbs, and the new city environment has kept me interested in playing further.

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#694 j-cart

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:01 AM

just completed the first chapter and entered the city of Vizima. i'm not sure if the witch vs townspeople dilemma was supposed to be a hard decision as i didn't have quite enough information to condemn her. i don't even know how witchcraft works or what she's capable of, so i just fucked her and killed the crazies, then died quite a few times on the demon dog until i fought him drunk which made things a whole lot easier.

so nothing too impressive yet, though the combat is fun enough -- did you not play with the over the shoulder camera? it's pretty smooth and i think it feels good when you got the timings down, plus the combos look pretty extravagant and all. dunno, it doesn't feel terrible or anything. im also enjoying collecting all the formulas and learning new herbs, and the new city environment has kept me interested in playing further.



Keep up your herb farming and always stay drunk on potions :D

#695 eldergamer

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

Finished the first 'dungeon' in Persona 2 IS. Pretty darn easy. Did they tone down the difficulty for the PSP version?

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#696 Rodimus

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

Finished the first 'dungeon' in Persona 2 IS. Pretty darn easy. Did they tone down the difficulty for the PSP version?


I don't remember any word of difficulty changes. They made the combat interface more manageable, but since we never got an official release of Innocent Sin in the states I only have Eternal Punishment to compare it to.

#697 eldergamer

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:49 PM

I don't remember any word of difficulty changes. They made the combat interface more manageable, but since we never got an official release of Innocent Sin in the states I only have Eternal Punishment to compare it to.


I guess just compared to other SMT games where you needed to use healing items after every battle or could get wiped out quite easily, this one is no problem. I'll see what the next dungeon is like. Negotation stuff is a pain, though.

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#698 Indignate

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:06 PM

I played the first Persona on PSP and that wasn't at all difficult.

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#699 raiden_86

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

I don't know what it is, but when people do this I can never find it to be clever.


Wheres a Leda gif when you need one?

Finished the first 'dungeon' in Persona 2 IS. Pretty darn easy. Did they tone down the difficulty for the PSP version?


I should have picked this up when it was on sale, let me know how it goes! Just got FFIV on psp so that ought to hold me off for a bit.

#700 Zmonkay

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:59 AM

Traveling a lot for work recently, so tried diving into some "classic" RPGs I never played.

Breath of Fire 3: I tried, I really did, to like it, but just couldn't. Soooooo slow and boring. BoF4 is a fave of mine, so I'm sad I can't enjoy 3. Stopped after ~ 10 hours

Grandia: Similar to the above. I find the graphics more charming, there's more plot/characterization, and the music is great, but it's just boring dungeon slog after boring dungeon slog. Also stopped after ~ 10 hours (enjoyed more than BoF3, but...). Also like BoF I greatly enjoyed Grandia 2 (3 was total crap though).

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#701 The Crotch

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:03 AM

Boooooo. How far did you get in BoF 3? Did you reach Wyndia at least?

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#702 Rodimus

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:47 AM

Grandia: Similar to the above. I find the graphics more charming, there's more plot/characterization, and the music is great, but it's just boring dungeon slog after boring dungeon slog. Also stopped after ~ 10 hours (enjoyed more than BoF3, but...). Also like BoF I greatly enjoyed Grandia 2 (3 was total crap though).


I loved Grandia back in it's day, so I replayed it when it was first released as a PSone Classic. Slower than I remember and way too easy. Even bosses were a joke (I was over leveled) Still it was nice to play through it again, however it took almost 2 years to complete my second playthrough. I felt like I was forcing myself to play it half the time. Slow burn.

Agreed, Grandia 3 was garbage. It's only saving grace was the battle system. Sorely disapointed in the story.

#703 eldergamer

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:40 AM

Maybe it's just the main series SMT games that start out being difficult. I remember having trouble until I at least leveld up out of the single digits in Nocturne.

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#704 luxuria

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:43 AM

I read that Persona 2 for the PSP was made easier.

It's the internet though so it's true.

#705 Indignate

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 07:02 AM

So maybe I forgot, but a 30 Seconds to Mars song plays during the credits of Dragon Age, and that's kind of weird.

Also, letting Loghain Fuck Morrigan is also kind of weird.

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#706 kainzero

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:42 AM

you can't dislike bof3 unless you get to the desert.
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#707 Ryuukishi

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

So maybe I forgot, but a 30 Seconds to Mars song plays during the credits of Dragon Age, and that's kind of weird.

Dragon Age is the new shit.


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#708 rockykai

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

I think I'm going to skip getting Etrian Odyssey 4 and Pandora's Tower (and probably Class of Heroes 2 if it's also too easy) because I just don't want to play easy games. Even Star Ocean 2 and Chrono Trigger and Tales of Graces F might ruin my patience like Xenoblade did, and there are probably some hard indie games that would be just fine anyway.

Or maybe games like Legend of Grimrock and Elminage Original spoiled me XD.

Also, is it bad when the newer Tomb Raider games interest you far more than newer Zeldas?

#709 R. Kasahara

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:09 PM

Not really playing any RPGs right now (unless 10000000 counts-- it's fantastic, BTW), so sorry I haven't been here much lately :-P

I think I'm going to skip getting Etrian Odyssey 4 and Pandora's Tower (and probably Class of Heroes 2 if it's also too easy) because I just don't want to play easy games.

wat.

You know, just because EO4 has a separate "casual" difficulty mode doesn't mean the normal one is any easier...

I preordered my own copy yesterday, but still don't know what type of 3DS I'll get. I'm leaning towards the XL, but am worried that EO4's 2D art will look like ass on it.
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#710 eldergamer

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

Since when is any Etrian Odyysey game easy?

I remember playing Breath of Fire 3 like what, 15 years ago? Couldn't beat the final boss.

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#711 rockykai

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

wat.

You know, just because EO4 has a separate "casual" difficulty mode doesn't mean the normal one is any easier...

I preordered my own copy yesterday, but still don't know what type of 3DS I'll get. I'm leaning towards the XL, but am worried that EO4's 2D art will look like ass on it.



I know about the casual mode. It's just that I've constantly read that the normal mode is the easiest in the series. Granted, it didn't sound like there was anything
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, but I was not at all impressed with hearing things like "random encounters are easy".

It could also be that everyone was using one of two classes and unlike EO3 it didn't take as long to figure out what really worked...IDK.

Sadly, I don't know which 3DS it would look better on and I can't seem to find any information on it for you. :cry:

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#712 elessar123

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

I think I'm going to skip getting Etrian Odyssey 4 and Pandora's Tower (and probably Class of Heroes 2 if it's also too easy) because I just don't want to play easy games.

Also, is it bad when the newer Tomb Raider games interest you far more than newer Zeldas?


Huh? Have you never played EO, or CoH?

I preordered my own copy yesterday, but still don't know what type of 3DS I'll get. I'm leaning towards the XL, but am worried that EO4's 2D art will look like ass on it.


2D art? The map?

#713 R. Kasahara

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:51 PM

2D art? The map?

The character art, specifically. I'm not too worried about the map.
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#714 rockykai

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

Huh? Have you never played EO, or CoH?


Yes, and EO1 and EO3's difficulty are considerably different...mechanics aside. This is assuming that you consider use of the skill guide "map" on the net as NOT cheating though.

BTW, I misread the 2D art part - totally my bad. I'll edit the above post, but I still don't know either way.

#715 elessar123

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

The character art, specifically. I'm not too worried about the map.


There's very little character art. Most of it is monsters, rendered in 3D.

Yes, and EO1 and EO3's difficulty are considerably different...mechanics aside. This is assuming that you consider use of the skill guide "map" on the net as NOT cheating though.


That is cheating, lol. I never used the maps for EO1-3 until I go back through and make sure I missed nothing.

Plus, other than EO1, none of them have been that hard. I think people just got used to what to expect. Like most games, they're only hard until you know what you're doing.

#716 rockykai

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

I used the wrong word earlier, again totally my bad.

It's the skill simulator that was wonderfully created for EO3 and EO4 that shows you the effect and cost of each move. I only use maps like you do elessar123 (and in EO2 especially I sure did miss stuff all right LOL).

I found many parts of EO2 needed good bit of thought and I agree about EO1 even though you-know-what ruined it after the 2nd stratum, but EO3 seemed to have very few puzzles or tough fights at all in comparison.

If I can play a somewhat decent party in EO4 without it being a cakewalk, I will get it no questions asked. I just have doubts.

#717 panzerfaust

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

Also, is it bad when the newer Tomb Raider games interest you far more than newer Zeldas?


didn't even have a remote interest in Tomb Raider until the reboot was revealed, which i'm thinking of grabbing day 1. the new direction looks great and maybe Lara will be an actual human being this time round.

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#718 The Crotch

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

you can't dislike bof3 unless you get to the desert.

Man, Fuck that desert and its lying god damn stars.

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#719 R. Kasahara

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

There's very little character art. Most of it is monsters, rendered in 3D.

I know the monsters are 3D this time, but it looks like character art is still used in at least the battle menus and cutscenes. I really love the character art, which is why I want it to look good :-P
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#720 elessar123

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

I know the monsters are 3D this time, but it looks like character art is still used in at least the battle menus and cutscenes. I really love the character art, which is why I want it to look good :-P


Ah, gotcha.