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RPG Thread XVII - Talk of RPGs past.


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#211 R. Kasahara

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:33 AM

I just backed the Barkley 2 Kickstarter - http://www.kickstart...shut-up-and-jam

They'd met their goal awhile ago, but there's still time to participate if you want any of the pledge bonuses.
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#212 GhostShark

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:28 PM

Yeah, I am gonna back it as well. I am currently playing the first one right now and it's equal parts brilliant and humorous.
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#213 Ryuukishi

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

Tales of Vesperia is fucking amazing.
Estellise is supposed to be a typically and annoyingly naive airhead, yet I want to marry her and protect her for the end of time.

And that dog is a boss.


Yeah. For a JRPG, especially one from the past few years, it has surprisingly great characterization. Even the "annoying kid" archetype is more endearing than annoying. And Troy Baker totally kills it as Yuri. Awesome game.

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#214 eldergamer

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:10 PM

The voices telling me to stick it out with Eternal Sonata are silent.

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#215 Rodimus

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

Tales of Vesperia is fucking amazing.
Estellise is supposed to be a typically and annoyingly naive airhead, yet I want to marry her and protect her for the end of time.

And that dog is a boss.


I always thought Estelle was borderline retarded. Now Judith is one of the few video game women I liked.

#216 The Crotch

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:27 PM

I have an indescribable mancrush on the lead designer of Project Eternity:

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#217 kainzero

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:02 AM

Vesperia chars?

I think all of them are pretty cool. Except Karol, that guy sucked cause he kept bitching all game. Raven's plot twist was dumb though.

Estelle was endearing, but I don't know if she could match Judy being the embodiment of sex appeal. zomg.
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#218 The Crotch

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:28 AM


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#219 Indignate

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

What if I told him I didn't care?

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#220 The Crotch

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

He'd accept your terrible opinions with love and compassion and poetry.

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#221 panzerfaust

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:45 PM

Man there's useless shit in every RPG I've ever played. Half the stats in Demon's Souls aren't even worth increasing.

Hope this guy is making something truly legendary.

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#222 The Crotch

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

Man there's useless shit in every RPG I've ever played. Half the stats in Demon's Souls aren't even worth increasing.

Part of the problem is that people who like RPGs are fucking terrible.

The third edition of D&D introduced a feat that you can take on level up called "Toughness". Toughness is a pretty simple thing that gives you a small HP boost every time you choose it on level up. And it is fucking terrible. It is a godawful piece of shit feat that you should never, ever take (unless, like, you're playing a wizard and the game only goes up to level 3 or some shit). When asked about the feat, one of the designers said that they made it intentionally weak to trap inexperienced players and reward "system mastery". And because people who like RPGs are fucking terrible, some people actually thought that this was a good thing.

I think most 3e-based PC game reworked toughness to not be total shit because the people in charge weren't fucking idiots. But a lot of the fans of these games still are. I can guaranfuckingtee you that if it is possible to kill any enemy in Project Eternity without casting a spell (mages were pretty much essential in BG2 and Icewind Dale for buffs, debuffs, and save-or-be-fuckeds), there will be neckbeards crying about how Obsidian betrayed them and their Kickstarter donation because mages aren't sooper speshul anymore. Because we are stupid people with shitty opinions.

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#223 Ryuukishi

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:09 PM

When asked about the feat, one of the designers said that they made it intentionally weak to trap inexperienced players and reward "system mastery". And because people who like RPGs are fucking terrible, some people actually thought that this was a good thing.


That is hilarious. "How dare this game be fun for anyone outside of ME and my special tiny group!?"

#224 j-cart

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

All stats are useless in Dark Souls, which makes it awesome :D

Can we get a list of all the pointless perks in Fallout 3 and NV Crotch?

#225 The Crotch

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

That is hilarious. "How dare this game be fun for anyone outside of ME and my special tiny group!?"

Most people think that he just made that up to cover for the fact that 3E was comically fucking unbalanced, but the general sentiment is surprisingly common.

All stats are useless in Dark Souls, which makes it awesome :D

Can we get a list of all the pointless perks in Fallout 3 and NV Crotch?

Maybe if I'd played either of them recently. Off the top of my head, anything that boosts SPECIAL stats can easily become irrelevant, either because of the very low hard-cap of 10 or because of the "almost perfect" perk. Damage resistance boosters are also tricky because, again, there's a hard cap on that. Cannibalism was useless in Fallout 3, the one that got you a free level was absolutely fucking terrible, rad resistance never mattered, and the explode-when-at-low-health perk was pretty shit. Some perks were the exact opposite: seemingly shit but actually awesome. Most notably, Fallout 3's "pyromaniac" gave +50% damage from fire weapons, which turned the shiskebob into a fucking monster of a melee weapon.

Also, the lead designer of New Vegas is the guy talking in that video, the lead designer of Project Eternity. I thought New Vegas was a lot better balanced than Fallout 3 (which was better balanced than the original games where any character with low agility was basically just a gimmick/challenge run), and I thought the use of perks to make lower-grade equipment useful in the late game was really neat instead of forcing you to either hobble yourself or wear power armour. We'll see how he does with his first original IP.

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#226 luxuria

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:35 AM

I was able to complete Persona 4 Golden a few minutes ago. The new content was refreshing, although a bit of it was clearly just for fanservice. Anyways, I thought Marie was a pretty cool character.
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#227 j-cart

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:45 AM

Here and Now perk is by far the most hilariously useless perk in Fallout. Such a waste :D Lose a perk slot to gain a level? Hah!

#228 Indignate

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:50 AM

But then you get another perk right away. Profit!

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#229 elessar123

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:00 AM

But then you get another perk right away. Profit!


I don't know why, but I keep laughing at your sig.

#230 The Crotch

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:02 AM

You know what, Fuck it, New Vegas had throwing spears, and that pretty much makes it the best RPG ever.

8/10.

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#231 Indignate

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:06 AM

Troy had throwing spears. And Pitt ass.

9/10.

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#232 KtMack23

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

Does anyone have opinions on the Tales 3DS game? Im thinking about popping it in for shits and giggles, don't really have time for it right now tho

Man you people are cheap.

 


#233 The Crotch

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:28 AM

Troy had throwing spears. And Pitt ass.

9/10.

Other thing that makes New Vegas basically the best thing ever: the number of people that picked the "confirmed bachelor" perk and got upset because of all the gay dialogue options.

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#234 Indignate

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:03 AM

Wait hold on.

What is this? I need to pick it the next time I play.

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#235 GhostShark

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:18 AM

Wrapped up Barkley's Shut Up and Jam Gaiden. By far the most fun I've had with a RPG not named Borderlands 2 or Skyrim in a very long time.
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#236 j-cart

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:02 PM

Auto-run was the best feature in NV.

#237 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

Where have I been, Ni No Kuni demo is out (although I will wait since I already have the game preordered and my GF will force me to buy the game anyway because she loves Ghibli) and Barkley 2.

I just backed Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden 2 because god damn this sounds amazing.
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#238 The Crotch

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:08 PM

Jsawyer.esp time with New Vegas LET'S GO!

Wait hold on.

What is this? I need to pick it the next time I play.

It's available at level 1 with no requirements. It's the one with the two dudes and the naked backrub.

It's also one of the single most useful perks in the game, giving you +10% damage against all male enemies. Way more powerful than its heterosexual equivalent "Lady Killer" due to the relative lack of female enemies..

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#239 Indignate

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Oh, see when I play that I going to play a lady Courier, so it's not going to be as gay.

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#240 The Crotch

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

There's a lesbian equivalent whose name escapes me at the moment, but it's not as useful for the same reason as Lady Killer.

The best couriers are gay men and heterosexual women.

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