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#121 dohdough

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 05:12 PM

I know some of you live in snowy climates, so convince me to either stay with Blizzaks or go with X-Ice 3's.

Now that I'm driving more, the Blizzaks will have their winter/snow tread gone in no more than 3 seasons, which would then require me to get a completely new set. Whereas the X-Ice 3's should last me at least 6 years if the rubber doesn't start cracking, but doesn't have the same kind of tread depth for snow as the Blizzaks. I don't see snow that often, but we usually get pummeled when we do. Considering the car is a low and lightweight RWD, I'm guessing that I won't be driving in anything over 4 inches to begin with unless it's an emergency.

Tirerack reviews puts them pretty close in winter/snow performance, but the X-Ice 3's have got the Blizzaks beat when it comes to dry-road handling.
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#122 ITDEFX

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:35 AM

Ok... I really should have looked at this thread before letting my wife buy a car.

 

So two months ago her Honda 2003 civic finally tanked.  She had her eyes on a 2014 KIA Sorento.  Since my parents had experience in buying cars and thought that Kia's were pretty good, they helped out my wife.  The first night the negotiations didn't go as they wanted to so the next day we went to another dealership.

 

Me, my dad and my wife agreed that if one of us does not feel comfortable with the situation, we will walk away.

 

The guy who approached us did nothing but run his mouth for 20 minutes and IMO was full of shit. 

 

The one that my wife wanted was not on the lot but a similar colored one was and the dealer offered to sell that one for the cheaper price.  It had some extra's that cost more but he was tossing it in for free.  Just the interior didn't go well with her.  Despite me trying to convince her that it can be covered up with a car seat, she still wanted the other one.

 

The dealer claimed that he can have the other one brought to the lot within 20 mins from another location that is 45+ mins away.  We dared him to bring it to us within 20 mins and even his finance guy who was familiar with that area said there is no way that car can get here in 20 mins.  We waited nearly 3 hrs for the car and kept on saying that guy is sure taking his time for a 20 min trip. 

 

The car arrives, only not as described.   The dealer then tried slamming the extended warranties and some stupid protection for more money.  I called them out when they said "It protects against acid rain..........".   Given the fact that I was a teacher, I gave them a little lecture about "Acid Rain" and the effects on today's cars.  Once he heard that he just shut up about it because he knew he was full of bullshit.

 

When they added that stupid dealers (forgot the title) fee, I tried getting them to explain it and what does it cover and they refused to tell us and refused to take it off or reduce it.  

 

I told both my wife and father that it feels too shady and that we should walk away.  No one listened.

The dealer said my wife would qualify for additional discounts if she proved she was in college and had proof that she owned another car from a list.  We provided all the documentations.  I still didn't like the numbers but it wasn't my car.

So I left hoping that the others would get the "hint".  She ended up getting the car.

 

Fast forward to this month, my wife started getting calls from that dealer saying that she gave him my "transcripts" and still didn't have the DMV information he requested.  ALL of THIS was given to him during the day she bought the car.  Now he is leaving voice mails saying that if she doesn't provide the information by 3pm today, her discounts will be taken off.   WHAT THE Fuck???  It's not our fault the dealer is an unorganized idiot.

 

So the question is, can the dealer contact us 2 months later to request documents that were already given/seen by him during the purchase of the car and the agreement with price already set in stone and threaten to take away the discounts?  What is his game?



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:20 AM

First off, wow. Secondly, WOW!

This is all contingent on you having read your contract and the assumption that the dealer isn't bullshitting you. What you should do first is to read your contract.

What I would've done is call Kia Motor Finance to inquire about the discounts and whether or not there is missing paperwork and if there is, find out if you can submit it straight to them. After that, file a complaint against this dealership for losing your paperwork. This is all assuming that you financed directly through Kia because those discounts are generally only given if you finance with the manufacturer, not to be confused with the dealership. Then, I would call the GM of the dealership and tell them how pissed you are that the dealership lost the paperwork and that you've filed a complaint with Kia Corporate.

My question is who, from the dealership, actually called you? The F&I guy? The salesman is only there to get you to agree to a price, not handle the financing aspect of it. It's highly unlikely that the financing fell through 2 months after the fact, but READ YOUR CONTRACT.




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For $25k, I would've bought a CRV or Rav4. :D
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#124 Zoglog

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:33 AM

This is why I will never buy a car at a stealership again. What you do is do your negotiating beforhand by calling up multiple dealers and asking for the fleet sales manager or internet sales manager. Tell them you just want the out the door price. Do your financing elsewhere unless they offer you 0% and without too many discounts/strings attached. If you're lazy there are sites like Carwoo that will sort of do that for you, but you won't get as good a price for sure.

 

Also I test drove the Tesla S last weekend and that experience was as straightforward as it comes. Their sales people don't pressure you and let you take your time with the car. It's clearly the future

 

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wewt, I wonder what the V version will be. When I buy my next car it's going to be a tough choice. Part of me wants the C7 Corvette and the other wants whatever Tesla model they have coming in 4 years or so.



#125 ITDEFX

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:18 PM

First off, wow. Secondly, WOW!

This is all contingent on you having read your contract and the assumption that the dealer isn't bullshitting you. What you should do first is to read your contract.

What I would've done is call Kia Motor Finance to inquire about the discounts and whether or not there is missing paperwork and if there is, find out if you can submit it straight to them. After that, file a complaint against this dealership for losing your paperwork. This is all assuming that you financed directly through Kia because those discounts are generally only given if you finance with the manufacturer, not to be confused with the dealership. Then, I would call the GM of the dealership and tell them how pissed you are that the dealership lost the paperwork and that you've filed a complaint with Kia Corporate.

My question is who, from the dealership, actually called you? The F&I guy? The salesman is only there to get you to agree to a price, not handle the financing aspect of it. It's highly unlikely that the financing fell through 2 months after the fact, but READ YOUR CONTRACT.




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It was the dealer who has been calling her.  Not the financing guy.  I don't understand what is the meaning of this?  Now I know one time he asked her for two pay stubs after the transaction was completed, but that was it.  What can he do if we don't submit the documents?



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:31 PM

It was the dealer who has been calling her.  Not the financing guy.  I don't understand what is the meaning of this?  Now I know one time he asked her for two pay stubs after the transaction was completed, but that was it.  What can he do if we don't submit the documents?

 

Man, that sounds like a shady dealer.  Definitely go over your contract word for word and see if they have a leg to stand on.  How can they remove discounts when everything is already signed for?

 

In other news, I got a flat tire on the Touareg.  It's the same tire I patched last year, so hopefully I can just have it re-patched.  I just saw the tire costs $293 on tirerack so I'm hoping.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

What do you guys think of Crown Vics?

 

Currently I'm 15 and 7 months. In PA, you can't get a learner's permit until 16 and a junior license until 6 months after the permit was issued. I'm going to be stuck driving my dad's truck (Dodge Durango whopping 9 mpg!!). My parents are alright with paying for part of the insurance; I will need to cover the rest. I need a cheap and reliable car that it cheap to insure. I was thinking a old Crown Vic Police Interceptor since they go for cheap in my area. ($2000~ for a '03 with 125,000 miles)

 

I'm not aiming for a old patrol car, I'm aiming for a Sheriff's or Deputy's vehicle (there are always a couple in my area). What do you guys think?



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

It was the dealer who has been calling her.  Not the financing guy.  I don't understand what is the meaning of this?  Now I know one time he asked her for two pay stubs after the transaction was completed, but that was it.  What can he do if we don't submit the documents?

I'm confused. Who is "the dealer?" The salesman? One of the managers? Why would anyone other than the F&I guy ask for any kind of financial documents? You really need to read your contract cause this is some shady stuff. Having financing fall through is something that would happen within a week and not two months.

Did you call Kia Motor Finance? Are you even financed through them? If not, did you call your lender? Kinda hard for anyone to give better advice if we don't know some of the details about your terms.
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:58 PM

What do you guys think of Crown Vics?

 

Currently I'm 15 and 7 months. In PA, you can't get a learner's permit until 16 and a junior license until 6 months after the permit was issued. I'm going to be stuck driving my dad's truck (Dodge Durango whopping 9 mpg!!). My parents are alright with paying for part of the insurance; I will need to cover the rest. I need a cheap and reliable car that it cheap to insure. I was thinking a old Crown Vic Police Interceptor since they go for cheap in my area. ($2000~ for a '03 with 125,000 miles)

 

I'm not aiming for a old patrol car, I'm aiming for a Sheriff's or Deputy's vehicle (there are always a couple in my area). What do you guys think?

 

I've seen some people recommend them on FW finance.  Check out this thread:  http://www.fatwallet...inance/1076644/  there's some info in there as well as links to read up on them.

 

Are you going to be on your own insurance or on your parents?  It might make more sense financial-wise to be on your own.  That way, if God forbid anything happens, they will only be able to take money out of your net worth and not from your parents.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 10:09 PM

What do you guys think of Crown Vics?
 
Currently I'm 15 and 7 months. In PA, you can't get a learner's permit until 16 and a junior license until 6 months after the permit was issued. I'm going to be stuck driving my dad's truck (Dodge Durango whopping 9 mpg!!). My parents are alright with paying for part of the insurance; I will need to cover the rest. I need a cheap and reliable car that it cheap to insure. I was thinking a old Crown Vic Police Interceptor since they go for cheap in my area. ($2000~ for a '03 with 125,000 miles)
 
I'm not aiming for a old patrol car, I'm aiming for a Sheriff's or Deputy's vehicle (there are always a couple in my area). What do you guys think?


Unless you're making AT LEAST a steady $150 a week after taxes, $2000 is way too much to spend on a car, muchless on one that gets shitty gas mileage and however much you'll need to pay for insurance. Mark my words, insurance WILL NOT BE CHEAP for a 16.5 year old male.
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#131 aShufflinZombie

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 10:16 PM

I've seen some people recommend them on FW finance. Check out this thread: http://www.fatwallet...inance/1076644/ there's some info in there as well as links to read up on them.

Are you going to be on your own insurance or on your parents? It might make more sense financial-wise to be on your own. That way, if God forbid anything happens, they will only be able to take money out of your net worth and not from your parents.


Unfortunately, I would be under my parents. They wouldn't want me to have me on my own plan because their insurance agency won't insure anybody under 18 unless there is an adult.

I don't think their insurance would go up a whole lot because the insurance company 'adds' you to the plan at 10. You can not legally drive for 6 more years but they up the premiums a little each month for the years leading up so their is no great shell shock.

My parents drive a 03 Durango and a '12 Ford Fusion for reference.

#132 ITDEFX

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 10:52 PM

I'm confused. Who is "the dealer?" The salesman? One of the managers? Why would anyone other than the F&I guy ask for any kind of financial documents? You really need to read your contract cause this is some shady stuff. Having financing fall through is something that would happen within a week and not two months.

Did you call Kia Motor Finance? Are you even financed through them? If not, did you call your lender? Kinda hard for anyone to give better advice if we don't know some of the details about your terms.

 

oh sorry...  It was the salesman who's calling her.  Now she is getting someone calling her and leaving her a message saying "I have some great news about your Kia!!"  ummmmm whaatttt????????   The Financing guy isn't calling her. 

Zero Percent Interest huh?  Nope, she didn't get that.... I think it was 3.xx%

 

I am already on her case about this shit and said DID YOU GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT YOU SIGNED..........and of course shes like everything is in the car.   I am waiting for her to get home so I can read it carefully or find out she never got a copy that she signed.  God damn it this is why I get pissed at her, she doesn't ask questions or do research before diving into shit.   I am so glad I didn't co-sign this shit....yet we are married now so this is gonna bite me some how in the ass later on....   I will update this post later when I get a hold of the contract.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:04 PM

oh sorry...  It was the salesman who's calling her.  Now she is getting someone calling her and leaving her a message saying "I have some great news about your Kia!!"  ummmmm whaatttt????????   The Financing guy isn't calling her. 
Zero Percent Interest huh?  Nope, she didn't get that.... I think it was 3.xx%
 
I am already on her case about this shit and said DID YOU GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT YOU SIGNED..........and of course shes like everything is in the car.   I am waiting for her to get home so I can read it carefully or find out she never got a copy that she signed.  God damn it this is why I get pissed at her, she doesn't ask questions or do research before diving into shit.   I am so glad I didn't co-sign this shit....yet we are married now so this is gonna bite me some how in the ass later on....   I will update this post later when I get a hold of the contract.

Haha...all the paperwork is in my car too. Thanks for reminding me to take it out! :rofl:

That's super weird. The only reason why the salesman should be calling is to follow up to ask about how much she's loving her car and to thank her for her business. If I had to guess, I'd say that there's something wrong with the paperwork and it's possible that something was given that shouldn't have been. Asking for the paperwork 2 months after the fact might be something that he's just using to pull a bait and switch in order to not Fuck his numbers. I know that some dealerships will Fuck their sales people out of money in cases where something was given for "free" that shouldn't have been despite 3 or 4 people going through the paperwork.
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#134 ITDEFX

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:30 PM

Ok..

 

SO I finally looked at the contract.  Argh...stupid taxes, and other weird fees including a security fee............

Nothing in the contract says she has to give a copy of her transcripts and other shit but there is one section listed under documents that says buyer is require to submit all documents requested by the dealer........ but nothing specific. 

 

Now as I said before they dumped that extra warranty and protection on to her but we got them to take it off after a few days.  They never gave us an updated contract... the only updated thing she got was her updated bill she has to pay.  I am going to look at this next when she gets in.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:43 PM

Ok..

 

SO I finally looked at the contract.  Argh...stupid taxes, and other weird fees including a security fee............

Nothing in the contract says she has to give a copy of her transcripts and other shit but there is one section listed under documents that says buyer is require to submit all documents requested by the dealer........ but nothing specific. 

 

Now as I said before they dumped that extra warranty and protection on to her but we got them to take it off after a few days.  They never gave us an updated contract... the only updated thing she got was her updated bill she has to pay.  I am going to look at this next when she gets in.

 

Dude, you're Danny Trejo, just go into that dealership and start kicking some ass :lol:

 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:50 PM

Ok..
 
SO I finally looked at the contract.  Argh...stupid taxes, and other weird fees including a security fee............
Nothing in the contract says she has to give a copy of her transcripts and other shit but there is one section listed under documents that says buyer is require to submit all documents requested by the dealer........ but nothing specific. 
 
Now as I said before they dumped that extra warranty and protection on to her but we got them to take it off after a few days.  They never gave us an updated contract... the only updated thing she got was her updated bill she has to pay.  I am going to look at this next when she gets in.


The funny thing about extended factory warranties is that there's a buyers remorse period for most of them and you can cancel them right away without penalty, which would then be applied towards the loan. I had 30 days to cancel mine, so I'm going to use that as leverage the next time I buy a car. Even if they rip you off on it, you can cancel it and buy the same factory warranty from another dealership online for loads cheaper. :D

I'm assuming that there'd be some line items regarding the graduate and car ownership discounts because those are discounts that are reimbursed to the dealership. If they never gave an updated contract, is the original one signed?
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#137 ITDEFX

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:06 PM

Yes....the original is signed.   I really, really hope that my wife wasn't that stupid (or naive) to not get an updated contract.  Wouldn't the dealer need to issue a new contract anyways since we took off the warranty and protection because I know her interest rate went up because of her taking it off.  She claims that she can't get a better interest than what Apple Federal Credit or other banks offered her before she bought the car.

 

I really don't want to be any part of this as she seems to let other people fix her mistakes and need to have common sense slapped into her sometimes.  I didn't co-sign any of it.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:38 PM

Holy shit, what a mess...

Interest rates aren't tied to the extras you add to your purchase. I am surprised as Fuck that you wouldn't have the new contract and that the old contract wasn't shredded in front of you. I made a mistake on one of the forms and the finance guy redid the entire form after he shredded it.

Before my purchase, I was pre-approved for 3.5% upto $25k, finance guy offered 3.25%, I countered with Subaru offering 2.9%, and then he came back with 2.25%. I guess he got tired of me telling him how much I don't need/wanted his extra shit. :D edit: point being that interest rates are negotiable and good to know for your next go around.

If she's on her own, I guess you don't need to stress about it then. Seems like there's more going on that just the discounts and interest rate games.

Machete feels your pain, bro.
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#139 ITDEFX

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 03:22 AM

well the shit they did was they would give her a certain % if she did the warranty and protection.  a little higher if she did no protection.

 

now that she has removed the protection of course the interest is higher. 

 

So I got a hold of the bill..  It says NOTHING about the interest rate, just how much she owes each month and the total amount.  I am worried the dealership added some shit and didn't give her a new contract with the new numbers.

 

I don't know what the hell are her options now.  and of course here I am on CAG getting information while she's out showing off the car to her friends.................... god damn it. 

 

How screwed is she? 



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 05:12 AM

It depends on the contract. Without knowing the exact terms, no one can say. Judging from what you've said so far, she got taken for an expensive ride. Considering the this deal is two months in, it's mostly written in stone for better or for worse. If you aren't financing through Kia Motors Financial, I'd be a bit more worried when it comes to those discounts.

I wouldn't worry about the monthly note only having the numbers you mentioned though, that's standard practice. I would call the lending institution for info on the loan if it's not on any of your paperwork or at least to verify it. I'm guessing that the cost of the car was based more on monthy payments rather than an out-the-door price because the numbers were massaged a bit to have more palatable terms. It's the worst way to figure out a price cause that's how they hide stuff.

The game they played with the interest rates is one of the oldest in the book. I would be out the door the second I caught wind of it. Again, tips for the future.
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Posted 16 November 2013 - 03:14 PM

It depends on the contract. Without knowing the exact terms, no one can say. Judging from what you've said so far, she got taken for an expensive ride. Considering the this deal is two months in, it's mostly written in stone for better or for worse. If you aren't financing through Kia Motors Financial, I'd be a bit more worried when it comes to those discounts.

I wouldn't worry about the monthly note only having the numbers you mentioned though, that's standard practice. I would call the lending institution for info on the loan if it's not on any of your paperwork or at least to verify it. I'm guessing that the cost of the car was based more on monthy payments rather than an out-the-door price because the numbers were massaged a bit to have more palatable terms. It's the worst way to figure out a price cause that's how they hide stuff.

The game they played with the interest rates is one of the oldest in the book. I would be out the door the second I caught wind of it. Again, tips for the future.

 

Well that's just grand.........just checked the bill again and it's thru Capital One.    So in talking with my parents who were there at the time of her signing, she was suppose to call the guy and get the break down of the numbers.  I am pretty sure they snuck some things into that bill and without a new contract break down,.....arghh........



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:07 AM

man, why bother going through financing through the dealership? I got 0.8% financing on a USED car from penfed.

The only time it's worth going through a dealership is if they do 0% financing. And usually then they pricegouge you on the price anyway

 

As for crown vics, great cars. reliable and great for messing around with. I've always fancied the idea of buying one to put a bull bumper on. All I know is people tend to drive more kindly around you when you're in a crown vic. Esp if you put a side mirror/light and bull bumper on it. Great time to buy them as lots of LEOs are selling them off to buy new shiny interceptors

 

The only problem with them is gas mileage afaik



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:14 PM

So who's getting the new 2015 WRX?  It looks pretty sweet.  I wonder what the pricing will be on it.

 

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The new X5, on the other hand, doesn't do anything for me.  From a side profile, the trunk looks like it sticks out too much.

 

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:23 PM

No auto; no buy! :rofl:

I think it looks pretty good though and I wonder what they'll do with the STi version.
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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:46 PM

Unless you're making AT LEAST a steady $150 a week after taxes, $2000 is way too much to spend on a car, muchless on one that gets shitty gas mileage and however much you'll need to pay for insurance. Mark my words, insurance WILL NOT BE CHEAP for a 16.5 year old male.

As for crown vics, great cars. reliable and great for messing around with. I've always fancied the idea of buying one to put a bull bumper on. All I know is people tend to drive more kindly around you when you're in a crown vic. Esp if you put a side mirror/light and bull bumper on it. Great time to buy them as lots of LEOs are selling them off to buy new shiny interceptors

 

The only problem with them is gas mileage afaik

Eh I can live with 20mpg. It's a hella lot better than my dad's durango (9 city, 11 highway).

 

I can live with the insurance being a little much. I'm going to take drivers ed and my parents' insurance does good student discounts. (I'm in 6 honors classes and 1 AP class with an A- average.)

 

I do agree with $2000 being a lot for a first car but if I buy a beater, it will most likely cost that much in parts alone so the crown vic's cheap parts and reliability win out. I could always buy one from an auction (they usually go for ~$1500.)

 

I am all ears if you guys have another idea.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:59 PM

Eh I can live with 20mpg. It's a hella lot better than my dad's durango (9 city, 11 highway).
 
I can live with the insurance being a little much. I'm going to take drivers ed and my parents' insurance does good student discounts. (I'm in 6 honors classes and 1 AP class with an A- average.)
 
I do agree with $2000 being a lot for a first car but if I buy a beater, it will most likely cost that much in parts alone so the crown vic's cheap parts and reliability win out. I could always buy one from an auction (they usually go for ~$1500.)
 
I am all ears if you guys have another idea.


It's not so much the cost of the car, but the total cost of ownership. The car is the only thing that's somewhat negotiable because other stuff is more or less at a fixed price. Between insurance, gas, maintenance, and taxes out of your paycheck, $150 a week isn't as much as it sounds when you add up how much money you'll be spending just hanging out with your buds and gaming stuff(this is CAG afterall ;)).

If you're not driving far, I would rough it in the Durango. Make a spreadsheet and do the math to see which makes more sense financially. Personally, I'm a little biased and would get a Civic hatchback for $2k...haha.
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 02:23 AM

Eh I can live with 20mpg. It's a hella lot better than my dad's durango (9 city, 11 highway).

 

I can live with the insurance being a little much. I'm going to take drivers ed and my parents' insurance does good student discounts. (I'm in 6 honors classes and 1 AP class with an A- average.)

 

I do agree with $2000 being a lot for a first car but if I buy a beater, it will most likely cost that much in parts alone so the crown vic's cheap parts and reliability win out. I could always buy one from an auction (they usually go for ~$1500.)

 

I am all ears if you guys have another idea.

Check with your insurance before you enroll in drivers ed to make sure you'll get a discount for completing the course. From what I hear, lots of insurance companies are not giving discounts for that anymore. Of course if you are taking the class just to take it and don't care if you'll get a discount take it anyway but just a heads up in case that's all you have in mind.



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 07:20 AM

autogeek.net has 25% everything and free shipping with no minimum with code BLACK25

I picked up Langka, Dr. Colorchip, and a clay bar. These things are hard to find with free shipping so with that and 25% off I figured it was a good deal.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 04:58 AM

autogeek.net has 25% everything and free shipping with no minimum with code BLACK25

I picked up Langka, Dr. Colorchip, and a clay bar. These things are hard to find with free shipping so with that and 25% off I figured it was a good deal.

You must REALLY hate paint chips. :D

In case anyone thinks it's too late, Autogeek extended the sale another 12 hours.
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Posted 30 November 2013 - 12:31 PM

Ha, yeah, I read Langka is better for scratches than colorchip so I figured I would try them both.

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