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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:53 AM

Shipwreck learns something about Metacritic, Wombat is tired of being the bad guy, and CheapyD is misunderstood, again.

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#2 HansKaosu

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

yay! <3 a cagcast a week keeps the doctor away.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:00 AM

Loving the title!

#4 io

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:24 AM

Very curious to see what the title is about.

I have been playing Lego Lord of the Rings and it is pretty good. I haven't watched the movies recently and the original voices and the music are bringing that all back and making me want to go watch them again soon.

That Lego Batman game Cheapy and Wombat raved about doesn't interest me all that much (because I'm not into the characters) but I couldn't pass on Lego LOTR - preordered it even.

Will listen to the CAGcast now...

Wombat: I saw Wreck-It Ralph a few days ago too. My not-quite-5 year-old (his birthday is on Black Friday!) started getting a little restless about 2/3 the way through so I understand what you went through. He was getting "climby" too (I think that's what you said). Fortunately we were in the row with the bar in front so him getting up and down and kicking the bar didn't bother anyone. I had to pull him back into his seat 5 or 6 times and tell him to cool it though. And yet he really loved the movie and asked me as soon as we left when "we could get it" (meaning on DVD).

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:30 AM

Everytime you guys say "polygon" I get confused for a second because you guys are the only ones I've heard mention that site and polygon is a bad name. It's like calling a home repair magazine "Brick."

BTW wasn't LA Noire a Rockstar game? You're a "good guy" in it.
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#6 io

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:52 AM

So, Walmart deals vs. Amazon possibly price matching...

Yeah, Cheapy, I would much prefer to order these games (in particular X-COM) from Amazon. The problem is, will we know before 8pm Thursday if Amazon will match these prices? If we have to wait until Friday to see if Amazon matches, it will be too late to get the games at Walmart.

I know this is not the case for most people, but for me Walmart is just not convenient. I have to drive kind of far and dealing with the normal crowds at Walmart is something I dislike. I can only imagine what it will be like on Thursday night.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:03 AM

Wow, I had wondered if people were going to get on Cheapy for his comments from last week. I feel he has really been influenced by Howard Stern's work, and so I figured he was mostly just joking. Howard has that same sort of rough humor sometimes with his co-host when they talk about their personal lives. Though at the end of the day you know he does care about them and loves working with them. That's his thing. His and Cheapy's! :)

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#8 CheapyD

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

We should have the Amazon deals on Monday.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

Bend studio is the main AAA games company for Vita right now, some others aren't bad, but no where near what Bend does with handheld games. At least for the US/Europe.

Sleeping Dogs is a good open-world game where you play as a cop, though it does consist of a lot of violence when you are not doing cop missions. You can choose not to be super violent though it makes it a little tougher sometime.

#10 Sgt Barone

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

Can't wait to listen!

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#11 Manloi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

Daft Punk Intro/Outro Rocks. Thanks Cheapy, wombat and Shipwreck for this week's CAGcast.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:08 PM

Was drinking coffe when cheapy said to wombat "How come she couldn't get her shit together". Almost coughed it all over my laptop. Cheapy = compassion.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

Shipwreck was wrong. Garcia died in 2011 so Buckner & Garcia did not sing the Wreck-It-Ralph song but it was Buckner and Jamie Houston.


Also Fun Fact: my walmart is calling black Friday, "blitz Friday" because the name black Friday is offense.

Edited by ILikePopCans, 16 November 2012 - 03:50 PM.


#14 shipwreck

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:21 PM

Shipwreck was wrong. Garcia died in 2011 so Buckner & Garcia did not sing the Wreck-It-Ralph song but it was Buckner and Jamie Houston.


Alert the official soundtrack which credits the song to Buckner & Garcia! Get Walt Disney on the horn and get this corrected.
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#15 hoofrog

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:36 PM

BLOps Deuce!!! That shit had me rollin' Wombat. That is a visual I will not soon forget.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:49 PM

Move is a failure because theres no games to play? So the Kinect is a failure too, because theres no interest there despite the past claims of it being a success due to its sales numbers.And that was when the numbers were lower than what Move currently sold.

I just dont get the arguments sometimes, and the Blops vs Halo is a good example too. The multiplayer in Halo is like Call of Duty, but its better because....why exactly Cheapy? You didnt actually give a reason. And the campaign for both? Ship conveniently had to have Cheapy bring up its lame story while having that as a knock against Blops. And Halo is a better game because it looks better and has some open areas in its still funneled gameplay. Come on now. Ypu wonder why you guys are labeled as xbox biased?

#17 shipwreck

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

Move is a failure because theres no games to play? So the Kinect is a failure too, because theres no interest there despite the past claims of it being a success due to its sales numbers.And that was when the numbers were lower than what Move currently sold.

I just dont get the arguments sometimes, and the Blops vs Halo is a good example too. The multiplayer in Halo is like Call of Duty, but its better because....why exactly Cheapy? You didnt actually give a reason. And the campaign for both? Ship conveniently had to have Cheapy bring up its lame story while having that as a knock against Blops. And Halo is a better game because it looks better and has some open areas in its still funneled gameplay. Come on now. Ypu wonder why you guys are labeled as xbox biased?


Yes, "convenient". I'm tired of arguing this crap. Cheapy's playing Black Ops 2 on the PC and I'm playing it on the 360 and somehow us preferring Halo is Xbox bias. Makes perfect sense. Also by that logic, Playstation Move is well supported by Sony and has an equal if not greater mindshare as Kinect in the general populous.

I explained why I prefer Halo's structure better than Black Ops in the show.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

There was a unspoken "financial" reason why the new Spiderman was made.

Keeping it real brief, if Sony/Columbia didn't reuse the license again in a certain period of time, the film rights would be reverted back to Marvel, in which they can use the character again in whatever they wanted.

It's why some critics perceived the film as soulless since they believed the film was a "by-the-numbers" job made purely for monetary support.

This is also what people are worried about when it comes to the Avengers because while it's still possible for him to appear in a sequel. Most of the rest of the Marvel universe is owned by Disney now so there will be some slight legal hurdles. But who knows what's going to happen in a few years from now.

#19 AriesDog

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

There was a unspoken "financial" reason why the new Spiderman was made.

Keeping it real brief, if Sony/Columbia didn't reuse the license again in a certain period of time, the film rights would be reverted back to Marvel, in which they can use the character again in whatever they wanted.

That explains why the movie had to be made. Doesn't explain why they had to do the origin... again. When I saw the trailer at the movies, there was a collective groan from the audience when they saw it was the origin again. Should've just started us off on a new Spider-Man adventure.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:51 PM

I love how Wombat pretty much gave a synopsis of LA Noire and the light bulb never went off in his head.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:57 PM

There was a unspoken "financial" reason why the new Spiderman was made.

Keeping it real brief, if Sony/Columbia didn't reuse the license again in a certain period of time, the film rights would be reverted back to Marvel, in which they can use the character again in whatever they wanted.

It's why some critics perceived the film as soulless since they believed the film was a "by-the-numbers" job made purely for monetary support.

This is also what people are worried about when it comes to the Avengers because while it's still possible for him to appear in a sequel. Most of the rest of the Marvel universe is owned by Disney now so there will be some slight legal hurdles. But who knows what's going to happen in a few years from now.


This is also the reason X-Men Destiny was demanded by Activision to be put out by Silicon Knights no matter the shape, and why there's a new Fantastic Four movie and X-Men First Class movie/sequel by Fox.

Also, nice to see CAG getting some nice linkage/credit by the gaming press in the last two days, even Kotaku! :)

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

I can sympathize, Wombat, my wife is kind of a wimp, too. At my place in BK, we've had some lingering issues from the storm, though the resolution weighs more on our landlord than on the local utilities or government. It can be frustrating when your SO can't deal with stress well.

#23 Wombat

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:00 PM

I love how Wombat pretty much gave a synopsis of LA Noire and the light bulb never went off in his head.


I should have been more clear and said a GTA game, not a Rockstar game. Also I have never played LA Noir.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

That explains why the movie had to be made. Doesn't explain why they had to do the origin... again. When I saw the trailer at the movies, there was a collective groan from the audience when they saw it was the origin again. Should've just started us off on a new Spider-Man adventure.


Yes, that's true, and I totally agree it should've been a new adventure.

For the origin reason, it's beause everyone tied to Spiderman 3 were asking for a lot more money to stay on board and the studio felt more damage would've been done to recast everyone in the same canon; over simply taking the easy way out and starting over again where they could keep control of the director, writer, and direction of this new "storyline".

This ties into the fact that past director Sami Raimi was heavily urging to have more control over the potential Spiderman 4 than he was allowed with the prior films, which (imo) did become a lot more disjointed with 2 and 3.

Since the last film came out 5 years ago as well, they didn't think the "fanbase" and backbone they've built up was worth latching on to. Although that certainly hasn't stopped other films.

So in other words, Sony's being Sony.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:04 PM

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

Great show as always. Thanks to Cheapy, Wombat and Ship. :applause:

There was a unspoken "financial" reason why the new Spiderman was made.

Keeping it real brief, if Sony/Columbia didn't reuse the license again in a certain period of time, the film rights would be reverted back to Marvel, in which they can use the character again in whatever they wanted.

It's why some critics perceived the film as soulless since they believed the film was a "by-the-numbers" job made purely for monetary support.

This is also what people are worried about when it comes to the Avengers because while it's still possible for him to appear in a sequel. Most of the rest of the Marvel universe is owned by Disney now so there will be some slight legal hurdles. But who knows what's going to happen in a few years from now.


Fox has a similar deal with the Xmen I believe. That one actually turned out ok though since First Class was surprisingly decent.

That explains why the movie had to be made. Doesn't explain why they had to do the origin... again. When I saw the trailer at the movies, there was a collective groan from the audience when they saw it was the origin again. Should've just started us off on a new Spider-Man adventure.


It makes sense that they'd want to change everything up since it's a new cast and director, and it seems there are plans for an ongoing arc to the new Spidey movies. So from that perspective it kind of makes sense.

But it was a drag having to watch the origin again, they should have compressed that. That time could have been used to strengthen the Gwen/Peter relationship, which felt really rushed.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

Cheapy:

Suggestion for the prize wheel: A guest appearance on CAGcast! Personally, I would take that option in a heartbeat over a $100 Amazon gift card; however, a $300 Amazon card might be too much to resist. I'd have to ponder on that one. Anyway, great show--as always--I think that's 'nuff said.

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#29 testudo

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:06 PM

bad choice with the one to grow on... shipwreck makes me feel this way eveytime he talks:

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Show Notes

03:30 Show Feedback
08:15 Watch This: Amazing Spider-Man
11:15 Wreck-It Ralph
15:15 New Releases
15:30 CoD: Black Ops 2
31:00 Lego Lord of the Rings
34:00 Wonderbook: Book of Spells
35:00 Paper Mario Sticker Star
38:00 Shopping News
42:30 Assassin's Creed III
44:30 Tom Hardy as Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell movie
48:15 Metacritic/Gamespot review
56:00 Forza Horizon
56:30 Halo 4
1:03:15 Xbox Live 10 year anniversary
1:06:00 Cagbag: PS Vita additions to PS+
1:07:30 Best Thanksgiving deals
1:12:45 Jeff Rubenstein leaving Sony
1:18:15 WiiU excitement and lack thereof
1:22:00 Achievements
1:22:30 Nintendo network?
1:23:00 GTA V trailer
1:24:45 Vita or 3DS?
1:27:00 Best selling holiday game
1:28:15 Update game pc to Win8?