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#91 CaseyRyback

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:53 AM

dont like it then dont work for them... NOONE OWES ANYONE HEATHCARE

just like the little sob at walmart saying we STRIKE Unless you pay us 13 bucks per hour ... LOL your lucky you make 7.50 an hour standing around walmart doing nothing


why should GM make a profit they should give everyone FREE NEW CARS EVERY YEAR


obamacare is the reason the insurance is skyrocking but noone will blame him for the crap he caused


Can put this to reason..

Hey if you want to pay 15 cents more for your pizza so we get health insurance then you can pay 50 cents to a buck more per pizza so we make 12 bucks per hour .... hell then you can pay 50 cents more for a pizza so kids working at papa johns can go to college for free... HELL LETS PAY 10 bucks more per pizza so everyone can get their house payments paid for them from people buying pizzas


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Hospitals are a big part of the reason that insurance costs are skyrocketing.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:48 AM

They're not a great company, but far better than Wal-mart. Have known people who worked for both, got better pay and treatment form Target. Though still shitty like all retailers.

But just not much option for things like pet food, toiletries etc. Pretty much big box stores like Target or pay more at the grocery stores (that also treat their employees pretty crummy most of the time).

So just a matter of picking the lesser evil for those types of things. And also factoring in shopping experience. Targets around here (and the other couple places I've lived) are much cleaner, better organized, have better quality products and better service.

They are ridiculously anti-union. Look up the Valley Stream, NY store some time. Basically, the store tried to unionize, Target fought it hard and ended up winning the vote. The Union brought a complaint to the NLRB for unfair practices and the day before the ruling was issued (which ended up going against Target requiring a new vote) Target closed the store for "remodeling." Over 6 months later the store is still boarded up. Essentially, they took a play right out of Walmart's book. Before this went down I was just unhappy with Target after working for them for 5 years, now they just plain disgust me.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

http://www.newsobser...s-make-big.html

Hospitals are a big part of the reason that insurance costs are skyrocketing.

I have a hard time blaming non-profit hospitals when it sounds like UNC is a bit of an outlier. That kind of profit is insane and the article seems to be more of a hit piece on them rather than an examination of the healthcare system as a whole and how it affects prices. Not to say that the extra $60+ million in charitable care wouldn't have helped of course because if that $125 million was net profit, there's a big problem. They should be funneling that money towards care AND research since it's a teaching hospital.

They are ridiculously anti-union. Look up the Valley Stream, NY store some time. Basically, the store tried to unionize, Target fought it hard and ended up winning the vote. The Union brought a complaint to the NLRB for unfair practices and the day before the ruling was issued (which ended up going against Target requiring a new vote) Target closed the store for "remodeling." Over 6 months later the store is still boarded up. Essentially, they took a play right out of Walmart's book. Before this went down I was just unhappy with Target after working for them for 5 years, now they just plain disgust me.

Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:29 AM

He said it was 13 to 14 cents, but someone crunched the numbers and it was actually closer to 4.5 cents.;)


And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee.

Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:35 AM

And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee.

Lemme see if I got this motherfucker right: he's going to raise prices to cover the employees that he reduced the hours of so that he wouldn't have to cover them?:rofl:

I don't know if he's a genius or if people that support him are just dumb as Fuck. I'm kidding...I know it's the latter.:cry:

edit: Just saw your edit. I guess he'd rather throw money away just to spite the government and deny the people that made his fortune better access to healthcare. What a fucking asshole.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.


Wanna bet he'll claim a deduction on those pies, too - in a dark bit of irony, putting taxpayers on the hook for paying for his pizza?
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.


Yep. But they at least tend to be a little better on pay, benefits etc than wal-mart and provide a much nicer shopping experience.

Just really no better options for things like toiletries etc. the grocery stores, CVS etc are no better to their employees and charge more for those things.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

I have a hard time blaming non-profit hospitals when it sounds like UNC is a bit of an outlier. That kind of profit is insane and the article seems to be more of a hit piece on them rather than an examination of the healthcare system as a whole and how it affects prices. Not to say that the extra $60+ million in charitable care wouldn't have helped of course because if that $125 million was net profit, there's a big problem. They should be funneling that money towards care AND research since it's a teaching hospital.


Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.


That article is part if a whole series discussing just how fucked up the health care system is. I just pointed that piece out because of how insane it is. Utterly disgusting.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee.

Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.


maybe everyone who is bitching about this should got out and try to make their own company and then they will see how hard it is to make a company stay in business .


if you say a company should not make a profit then why should anyone who plays sports be paid at all .. They are playing a game they should not make a profit (yes im pissed cause of the nhl lock out LOL)
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

Maybe you should take a basic writing class and you'll see that grammar and punctuation aren't actually that hard to master.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

if you say a company should not make a profit


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

maybe everyone who is bitching about this should got out and try to make their own company and then they will see how hard it is to make a company stay in business .


if you say a company should not make a profit then why should anyone who plays sports be paid at all .. They are playing a game they should not make a profit (yes im pissed cause of the nhl lock out LOL)


Weren't you going to quit your job and go on welfare if Obama was reelected?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:47 PM

Yep. But they at least tend to be a little better on pay, benefits etc than wal-mart and provide a much nicer shopping experience.

Just really no better options for things like toiletries etc. the grocery stores, CVS etc are no better to their employees and charge more for those things.

Oh I agree. Fortunately one of the supermarket chains in MA is unionized, so I have more options.

That article is part if a whole series discussing just how fucked up the health care system is. I just pointed that piece out because of how insane it is. Utterly disgusting.

Ahhh...gotcha. Gonna try and catch the rest of the series then.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:52 PM

Am I the only one who feels sick to his stomach every time that pizza with two types of bacon is advertised? Cheese is fat, bacon is fat, you've basically got carbs (dough) topped with sugar (tomato sauce) topped with fat (cheese) topped with more fat (bacon) Forget vegetables, that pizza doesn't even have enough protein.

Also I can't eat shitty box pizza anymore, I keep thinking of that Dominos pizza scandal.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

saying if you want to pay

xxxx more for a pizza to pay for their health insurance


then why not

xxxx more for a pay raise
xxxxx more for free college
xxxx more for free cars for the drivers

ect ect ect


This makes sense from a buy American over imports viewpoint actually. Even though you could get a product cheaper from China, paying more domestically would improve the purchasing power and quality of life for your fellow American.

(Assuming of course that the business is not overly top heavy--as a consumer there is a little bit of a moral choice here, would you be willing to pay more for a product from a business where worker and management salaries aren't grossly out of proportion from one another?)
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

maybe everyone who is bitching about this should got out and try to make their own company and then they will see how hard it is to make a company stay in business .


if you say a company should not make a profit then why should anyone who plays sports be paid at all .. They are playing a game they should not make a profit (yes im pissed cause of the nhl lock out LOL)


I always find your arguments interesting in the fact that they often don't need refuting. They seem to accomplish that on their own by being horribly ridiculous replies to nothing anyone has said.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

Just so you all know John Schnatter is all cool with the ACA. He thinks it is great all Americans are getting health care. No really, he is saying that all that other stuff he said was taken the wrong way. He was saying that the franchises would be cutting people's hours NOT Papa Johns. No, they are beacon of hope for the American worker, in fact this will level the playing field for him. Walk back much Mr. Schnatter? Money trumps ideals every time for these guys and he saw potentially a shit storm that could effect his bottom line.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:58 PM

I wish I could Fuck with his bottom line. As it is, I don't buy pizza from chain stores (okay, I admit I almost bought an "Uno" pizza at O'Hare airport last week), so I can claim to "boycott" Papa John's all I want. Fact is, I just know better.

And, living in the Northeast, you can't walk ten feet without tripping over a pizza shop. It's like Subway sandwiches - there are so many amazing hoagie and grinder places in every city and town here that I have no clue who in the motherfuck walks into a Subway in Philly like "allright! *FINALLY* found a good sandwich shop!"

So avoiding chain stores is really easy for me. I'll eat McD's like 5 times a year at most. Dunkin' Donuts is a weakness as well - but other than that, I don't do any of that stuff anymore. Don't have to, don't need to, don't want to.
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#109 dmaul1114

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:31 PM

I've actually boycotted Papa Johns since he first made those comments during the election. I usually ordered from them once a month or so. Reason being none of the local pizza joints here deliver--and there aren't all that many anyway. Atlanta isn't nearly as good a city for good food as the northeast cities unfortunately. But I still largely avoid chain places when dining out--while it's not DC where I was before, there are still some decent local joints around so no reason to hit up chains. Main sucky thing is most of hte good ethnic restaurants are up in the northern suburbs and thus pretty out of the way for people living in the city.

Anyway, PJ is crap, but better than Pizza Hut or Domino's, so I usually went with them when watching football or whatever and wanting a pizza. But no more. Now if I get a pizza craving I just grab a slice or two for lunch as there's a couple ok local joints near my work.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:59 PM

Atlanta isn't nearly as good a city for good food


LIES.

Not only did I miss you in Chicago last week, I was in Atlanta the first weekend of November (not that I had a spare moment). I finally got to have pancakes at Ria's Bluebird. HOLY Fuck. And cheap, too. If you can tolerate the too-hipster-to-give-good-service (a/k/a just plain hipster) service, it's hella worth it.

There are a number of really good places to eat right on Memorial SE south of Oakland Cemetery. Decatur has a number of good food spots as well. The only place in ATL where I was a bit dumbfounded with the food offerings was where we were staying (Mariott Marquis, home of next year's ASC ;)). But that's b/c it's the typical convention area of a metro downtown.

(oh, also, there appeared to be a new-ish craft beer bar on Memorial a few blocks west of Rias/Tin Lizzy etc. - didn't catch the name, though I'm sure you're quite familiar with it.)

Now, if you want to argue that there's no good pizza in ATL, that's not something I am able to argue against. But as for good food, I had some damned good meals there a few weeks ago. Also, I'm hella addicted to Chicago style dogs now, and can't get a good hot dog in Philly to save my fucking life.

Now I'm just hungry, and quite off topic. But we're talking about pizza anyway, so...yeah.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

When I first moved here I bought a bread machine and have been makin my own pizzas ever since. (There isnt decent pizza within 500 miles of me) You should do the same. Its a lot easier than you think to make better than average pizza at home.

As per Papa Johns in particular: Its one of the worst offenders as far as honesty goes (long before this debacle) You all know its not real cheese right (none of them are) They put on a big front when it comes to their meat and veggies , pounding their chest over how good that aspect is , because the cheese is actual plastic.
Its real cheese in the same sense that the mozzarella you bought at Aldi is real cheese. (Mostly oil based with a tiny portion of skim milk plus oodles of delicious Polymethylsiloxane. Which is also one of the main ingredients in chicken McNuggets btw )

A dead giveaway everytime : They cant get away with calling it Cheese. They have to call it something else when they list the ingredients. Like "Pizza Topping" , or "Pizza Cheese"
If they called it Mozzarella , thats a class action in the making. Cant remember if it was Pizza hut or Dominoes that tried getting away with advertising that they had real Mozzarella cheese, but that didnt last.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if you looked at the ingredients and it read "Real 100% Mozzarella Cheesetm"

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:29 PM

Just so you all know John Schnatter is all cool with the ACA. He thinks it is great all Americans are getting health care. No really, he is saying that all that other stuff he said was taken the wrong way. He was saying that the franchises would be cutting people's hours NOT Papa Johns. No, they are beacon of hope for the American worker, in fact this will level the playing field for him. Walk back much Mr. Schnatter? Money trumps ideals every time for these guys and he saw potentially a shit storm that could effect his bottom line.

http://www.huffingto..._b_2166209.html


It's cute how he thinks his opinion matters so much. 'Papa John hates on workers' was a cute story but your fifteen minutes of fame are over Johnny.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

LIES.

Not only did I miss you in Chicago last week, I was in Atlanta the first weekend of November (not that I had a spare moment). I finally got to have pancakes at Ria's Bluebird. HOLY Fuck. And cheap, too. If you can tolerate the too-hipster-to-give-good-service (a/k/a just plain hipster) service, it's hella worth it.

There are a number of really good places to eat right on Memorial SE south of Oakland Cemetery. Decatur has a number of good food spots as well. The only place in ATL where I was a bit dumbfounded with the food offerings was where we were staying (Mariott Marquis, home of next year's ASC ;)). But that's b/c it's the typical convention area of a metro downtown.

(oh, also, there appeared to be a new-ish craft beer bar on Memorial a few blocks west of Rias/Tin Lizzy etc. - didn't catch the name, though I'm sure you're quite familiar with it.)

Now, if you want to argue that there's no good pizza in ATL, that's not something I am able to argue against. But as for good food, I had some damned good meals there a few weeks ago. Also, I'm hella addicted to Chicago style dogs now, and can't get a good hot dog in Philly to save my fucking life.

Now I'm just hungry, and quite off topic. But we're talking about pizza anyway, so...yeah.

There used to be this place in town, it was owned and run by this couple from Chicago, they made the best damned hotdogs I've ever eaten. It was the first time I'd ever had colelsaw on a hotdog, it was fantastic. They also had pizza puffs, which are like a much better version of a hot pocket. Then the place closed, and turned into some sort of quasi italian/greek place.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:34 PM

When I first moved here I bought a bread machine and have been makin my own pizzas ever since. (There isnt decent pizza within 500 miles of me) You should do the same. Its a lot easier than you think to make better than average pizza at home.

As per Papa Johns in particular: Its one of the worst offenders as far as honesty goes (long before this debacle) You all know its not real cheese right (none of them are) They put on a big front when it comes to their meat and veggies , pounding their chest over how good that aspect is , because the cheese is actual plastic.
Its real cheese in the same sense that the mozzarella you bought at Aldi is real cheese. (Mostly oil based with a tiny portion of skim milk plus oodles of delicious Polymethylsiloxane. Which is also one of the main ingredients in chicken McNuggets btw )

A dead giveaway everytime : They cant get away with calling it Cheese. They have to call it something else when they list the ingredients. Like "Pizza Topping" , or "Pizza Cheese"
If they called it Mozzarella , thats a class action in the making. Cant remember if it was Pizza hut or Dominoes that tried getting away with advertising that they had real Mozzarella cheese, but that didnt last.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if you looked at the ingredients and it read "Real 100% Mozzarella Cheesetm"

Just like Kraft singles are "cheese".

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

When I first moved here I bought a bread machine and have been makin my own pizzas ever since. (There isnt decent pizza within 500 miles of me) You should do the same. Its a lot easier than you think to make better than average pizza at home.

As per Papa Johns in particular: Its one of the worst offenders as far as honesty goes (long before this debacle) You all know its not real cheese right (none of them are) They put on a big front when it comes to their meat and veggies , pounding their chest over how good that aspect is , because the cheese is actual plastic.
Its real cheese in the same sense that the mozzarella you bought at Aldi is real cheese. (Mostly oil based with a tiny portion of skim milk plus oodles of delicious Polymethylsiloxane. Which is also one of the main ingredients in chicken McNuggets btw )

A dead giveaway everytime : They cant get away with calling it Cheese. They have to call it something else when they list the ingredients. Like "Pizza Topping" , or "Pizza Cheese"
If they called it Mozzarella , thats a class action in the making. Cant remember if it was Pizza hut or Dominoes that tried getting away with advertising that they had real Mozzarella cheese, but that didnt last.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if you looked at the ingredients and it read "Real 100% Mozzarella Cheesetm"


Link? I'm genuinely curious. Reminds me of the "chocolatey" vs "chocolate" issue, where Hershey is making products with zero chocolate/cacao content (like those tiny candy coated hershey kisses - zero chocolate). They're called "Chocolatey candies" instead of "chocolate candies."
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#116 dmaul1114

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:49 PM

LIES.

Not only did I miss you in Chicago last week, I was in Atlanta the first weekend of November (not that I had a spare moment). I finally got to have pancakes at Ria's Bluebird. HOLY Fuck. And cheap, too. If you can tolerate the too-hipster-to-give-good-service (a/k/a just plain hipster) service, it's hella worth it.

There are a number of really good places to eat right on Memorial SE south of Oakland Cemetery. Decatur has a number of good food spots as well. The only place in ATL where I was a bit dumbfounded with the food offerings was where we were staying (Mariott Marquis, home of next year's ASC ;)). But that's b/c it's the typical convention area of a metro downtown.

(oh, also, there appeared to be a new-ish craft beer bar on Memorial a few blocks west of Rias/Tin Lizzy etc. - didn't catch the name, though I'm sure you're quite familiar with it.)

Now, if you want to argue that there's no good pizza in ATL, that's not something I am able to argue against. But as for good food, I had some damned good meals there a few weeks ago. Also, I'm hella addicted to Chicago style dogs now, and can't get a good hot dog in Philly to save my fucking life.

Now I'm just hungry, and quite off topic. But we're talking about pizza anyway, so...yeah.


Sorry I missed you as well. Ended up super hung over on Thursday so didn't do much that day, and was booked on Friday.

The problem I have is most of the good food spots around town are pub/bar food, southern food, BBQ etc. which I don't like eating very often. With some notable exceptions of course. Atlanta isn't a bad food town by any means, just not comparable to the big NE cities. It's especially lacking as most of the good Asian, Mexican and other ethnic food spots are up on Buford Highway with a lot of them way up in the suburbs where there's a bigger immigrant population--really isn't any big immigrant neighborhoods intown, weird for such a big city to not have a Chinatown area etc.

Lot's of great places to grab a burger and a beer, some ok Italian joints etc., but lacking on ethnic food, good healthy restaurants etc. which are more my style when wanting to eat out rather than grab drinks and food with friends when it's more about the beer and conversation. Atlanta has a great selection of those kind of spots--though I haven't tried the place on Memorial you're talking about.

But location is a lot of it, I work downtown (about a mile south of that hotel) and live in mid town (about 2 miles north of it) so I generally only go out to eat around those areas. I usually don't feel like driving over to Memorial/Grant Park or up to Buckhead or the suburbs where some of the better spots are. Living in a city has made me lazy about driving, especially when traffic and parking can be a pain. :D

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

When I first moved here I bought a bread machine and have been makin my own pizzas ever since. (There isnt decent pizza within 500 miles of me) You should do the same. Its a lot easier than you think to make better than average pizza at home.

As per Papa Johns in particular: Its one of the worst offenders as far as honesty goes (long before this debacle) You all know its not real cheese right (none of them are) They put on a big front when it comes to their meat and veggies , pounding their chest over how good that aspect is , because the cheese is actual plastic.
Its real cheese in the same sense that the mozzarella you bought at Aldi is real cheese. (Mostly oil based with a tiny portion of skim milk plus oodles of delicious Polymethylsiloxane. Which is also one of the main ingredients in chicken McNuggets btw )

A dead giveaway everytime : They cant get away with calling it Cheese. They have to call it something else when they list the ingredients. Like "Pizza Topping" , or "Pizza Cheese"
If they called it Mozzarella , thats a class action in the making. Cant remember if it was Pizza hut or Dominoes that tried getting away with advertising that they had real Mozzarella cheese, but that didnt last.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if you looked at the ingredients and it read "Real 100% Mozzarella Cheesetm"



This whole post made me sad. Now I have to be worried about my cheese actually not being cheese? Growing up in WI makes it all the worse.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

Link?



http://www.themilkwe...ture_06_Jan.pdf
That article is focused on Pizza Hut , but make no mistake: The company in question that makes the cheese , Leprino foods , makes that cheese for Pizza Hut, Domino’s, Papa John’s, Hot Pockets and Lean Cuisine.

Edit: For laughs I googled Papa John Nutritional information
http://www.papajohns...ional-faqs.shtm

See anything about the cheese?

Edited by EdRyder, 21 November 2012 - 05:44 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:54 PM

This whole post made me sad. Now I have to be worried about my cheese actually not being cheese? Growing up in WI makes it all the worse.

:( I hate to break it to you but , you needed to be worried about your cheese since we were kids
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:10 PM

Holy goddamn am I glad Papa Gino's uses real cheese!:lol: