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#241 KaneRobot

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

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#242 pitfallharry219

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:17 PM

The Pro Wrestling X Kickstarter is about to fall more than $50,000 short of its goal.

http://www.kickstart...ic-wrestling-ga

#243 MushaOne

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

The Pro Wrestling X Kickstarter is about to fall more than $50,000 short of its goal.

http://www.kickstart...ic-wrestling-ga


And about $21k more than it deserved.

#244 Genocidal

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

And about $21k more than it deserved.


I'm on my way out the door and don't have time to respond properly, so:

Fuck you, asshole.
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#245 CaseyRyback

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

I love reading all the shit talking that happens every time that project gets brought up. Nothing brings about more reaction than that game.

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#246 Ced

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:41 PM

Did the guy behind PWX rape a baby corpse or something similarly horrible of which I'm unaware? The game gets heat like it spat on Lawler in Memphis.

#247 kodave

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:52 PM

The Pro Wrestling X Kickstarter is about to fall more than $50,000 short of its goal.

http://www.kickstart...ic-wrestling-ga


Doing a Kickstarter before releasing the PWX: Uprising game or even a demo or even passing the Steam Greenlight was a terrible idea. I'm a supporter of this guy and his project but he lacks so much business and marketing sense. Its one thing to ask people to click a button for non-monetary support on Steam Greenlight, its a completely different ball game to ask people to pledge their money in advance through a Kickstarter like this on a project a decade in the making.

Had this guy released the PWX: Uprising game and it was decent, he would have had much better odds of getting people to give him money to back a "fuller" game despite the lack of marketing and business skills. Instead, failing with this Kickstarter now casts a huge shadow of doubt on PWX: Uprising from a business and marketing perspective even if the game actually turns out good.

He should have learned a lesson from Jeff Katz and the whole Pro Wrestling Revolution/Retribution thing. That Kickstarter wasn't going to make it's goal on pure fan donations, so Katz used his Hollywood connections to get investors to contribute a boat load of the money to the Kickstarter at the last second to make it look like a success. And that's how the "wrestling media" basically reported on PWR - as a success, despite the fact it was really a failure from a fan support perspective and needed a bailout.

A prime example of Dave Wishnowski failure with marketing this game and the Kickstarter is the plea for fans to reach out to Owen Good of Kotaku. Kotaku regularly reports on gaming Kickstarters, even recommending some to donate to. Kotaku also regularly covers pro wrestling antics even if they have nothing to do to gaming. It's astounding Wishnowski couldn't find a better way to reach out to media like Kotaku to drum up interest in this project other than begging fans to write in. This project's story easily lends to an interesting article. 10 years in the making, a never give up attitude, N64 nostalgia, a product that is so close to hitting market - this shit writes itself, but Wishnowski hasn't figured out how to market that to the world aside from crappy YouTube videos and some not so well chosen screen shots. He's successfully put together pitches for some outside investors and for the freaking Canadian government to get funding, but he hasn't figured out how to reach out and advertise to the people who he needs to buy his game. He should have ridden his association with Lance Storm and Storm Academy to greater lengths, but it doesn't seem he capitalized on that either.

I'm sure the game will eventually hit market and hopefully it will be decent and fun. But there's no doubt that this has been a mess from an advertising/marketing/business perspective.


#248 pitfallharry219

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

I'm sure the game will eventually hit market and hopefully it will be decent and fun.


I'm sure it won't. It's a hunk of shit now, it will continue to forever be a hunk of shit, and it will go down as the worst vaporware ever.

#249 Spyder187

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:30 PM

The Pro Wrestling X Kickstarter is about to fall more than $50,000 short of its goal.

http://www.kickstart...ic-wrestling-ga


And about $21k more than it deserved.


I'm on my way out the door and don't have time to respond properly, so:

Fuck you, asshole.


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#250 mykevermin

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:30 AM

I love reading all the shit talking that happens every time that project gets brought up. Nothing brings about more reaction than that game.


Perhaps PWX is the biggest heel of the past decade?
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#251 HeroToTheMasses

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

The character models were terrible. The animations were horrid. And it looks like they haven't been able to get things together in years.

Where these guys should have started out was in getting at least two or three really good high poly models made up of some high-profile independent wrestlers. A good character artist charges around $1000 per wrestler. It might be a little expensive, but it would have shown everyone that they were damn serious about getting the project off the ground. Another $3000 should have gone into making an actual arena. Finally they would incorporate the wrestlers moveset so they could prove to everyone that they were capable of creating an authentic wrestling game.

Honestly, if I were making an independent wrestling game, the most important thing for me would be to setup a network that would recruit wrestlers to sell their merchandise, shirts, and DVDs through the game portal and leave video promo updates through YouTube. Wrestlers also be able to lay out their schedule for when and where they'd be performing on their profile page. Players in return would be able to leave feedback on promos, for better or worse.

Once you get the wrestlers in on it, the fans won't be that far behind.

#252 slidecage

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:04 AM

if punk was really hurt then why wouldnt he be stripped of the title... i thought they had to defend every 30 days or lose it


i say punk was never hurt
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#253 Tsel

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:17 AM

if punk was really hurt then why wouldnt he be stripped of the title... i thought they had to defend every 30 days or lose it


i say punk was never hurt


Go away.

He's only going to miss a few weeks, so there's no point in screwing up one of their most important storylines.

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#254 Dr. Venkman

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 03:23 AM

I love reading all the shit talking that happens every time that project gets brought up. Nothing brings about more reaction than that game.



The idea sounds awesome to me in theory, but they kept showing the same ugly screenshots and animations over and over with ZERO evolution. The guy promoting the game would refer to No Mercy (or N64 wrestling games in general) every 60 seconds, which got old real quick.
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#255 KaneRobot

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 03:52 AM

...who the Fuck is wasting their money donating to Pro Wrestling Vaporware?
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#256 pitfallharry219

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 03:57 AM



I don't know why WWE's YT channel would just randomly post this yesterday. He's been gone how long now?

#257 neocisco

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:33 AM

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#258 mykevermin

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:56 AM

"Don't blink, you'll miss something."

Like Colt Cabana's WWE career.
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#259 pitfallharry219

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:03 AM

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#260 Ced

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:22 AM

Well met. However I think Colt dressing up as the Iron Sheik with a "Fuck the Brian Blair" sign would have been equally hilarious.

#261 BlueSwim

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:35 AM

Why all the hate for.... THE NEXT NO MERCY?! :lol:
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#262 TTGSteve

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:38 AM

Why all the hate for.... THE NEXT NO MERCY?! :lol:


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#263 mitch079

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:47 AM

Why all the hate for.... THE NEXT NO MERCY?! :lol:


I think you mean Duke Nukem Forever.

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#264 pitfallharry219

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:48 AM

Ha. I didn't know that sign was actually for Brian Blair the wrestler. I thought it was just some random politician.

#265 Vulcan2422

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:02 AM

Agreed with all points hit on Pro Wrestling X. I donated five years ago and have yet to even play a demo of it. Three strikes and you're out hopefully.

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#266 neocisco

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:30 AM

"Don't blink, you'll miss something."

Like Colt Cabana's WWE career.


I had the exact same thought but got caught up in the Punk gif. Thanks for picking up my slack. ;)

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#267 slidecage

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:18 AM

Go away.

He's only going to miss a few weeks, so there's no point in screwing up one of their most important storylines.


dont you mean one of the most stupid story lines in years... and you wonder why the ppv buy rates have fallen so badly

and point is dont defend for 30 days other had had their titles stripped
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#268 Demolition Man

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:25 PM

dont you mean one of the most stupid story lines in years... and you wonder why the ppv buy rates have fallen so badly

and point is dont defend for 30 days other had had their titles stripped



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#269 MushaOne

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

I'm on my way out the door and don't have time to respond properly, so:

Fuck you, asshole.


I was unaware that this was your game!

Seriously though, anyone dumb enough to give money to a game striving to be as good as a 10+ year old N64 title (and failing) should stop and really think things out. The graphics and animation (I know, they arent everything) are horrendous. I would have failed out of college if I turned in animations as bad as these. As someone who absolutely loved the N64 games (more VPW2 than No Mercy) I cannot even play these anymore because time has finally caught up with them. You always have these idiots claiming a wrestling game will be just like No Mercy, and then when you listen to them tell why you can see they have NO clue what made those games great to begin with.

I remember a good 4 or 5 years ago when this guy started posting screens and videos of the game. All this time later it looks exactly the same. And you think donating $21,000 to this guy so he can have Lance Storm! be an adviser on the game is a good use of money?

#270 HeroToTheMasses

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:30 PM

Kingston/Cesaro from Main Event is probably the match of the week (with the worst finish). Seek it out.