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#31 bardockkun

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:03 AM

Yeah, the buying used thing means jack and shit in supporting unless you buy all the DLC (if there is any), but even then you're just paying a fraction of what the game would've cost them to make it new. Word of mouth means little on the internet.

Also achievements as a way of supporting the developers? Are you fucking stupid? If that was the case Avatar: The Burning Earth would be having so many sequels because everyone 100% that POS game. I'm sorry for sounding confrontational, but achievements as a way of supporting game developers in anyway is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:08 AM

all my games i ordered have small chips on the outside of them. whats up with that. i mean they seem to play fine but how does that even happen
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

all my games i ordered have small chips on the outside of them. whats up with that. i mean they seem to play fine but how does that even happen

All I know is, it's FTL.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

[quote name='Troutyogurt']You can get slow-mo kill cams of shooting nazis in the nuts. nuff said


You convinced me. if only I still had a console.. stuck with my ps2, og xbox, and entire nintendo line minus the wiiu

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

All I know is, it's FTL.


And......how exactly do u know that ?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

[quote name='Desousa93'][quote name='Troutyogurt']You can get slow-mo kill cams of shooting nazis in the nuts. nuff said


You convinced me. if only I still had a console.. stuck with my ps2, og xbox, and entire nintendo line minus the wiiu[/QUOTE]

Wow who shoots a defenseless vegetarian in the nuts........FROM BEHIND

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

Nothing for me today. Glad to see the sale back though.

#38 TheHelix

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:45 AM

If Warriors Orochi 3 is on the PS3 disc, I'll pick it up for $20. Too bad it isn't.

And I'm also in agreement with another poster above, my huge backlog also says wait for Sniper Elite V2 to hit $10.


WO3 only got a disc release in Europe.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

Yes and no (but you are mostly correct). Buying a used game removes that option from another buyer so that next buyer might buy a new version instead. Also, if there is any DLC purchased (there may not be any available), that would help Namco. Also, word of mouth from playing the game (if the game is good) and achievement lists might help Namco too. Lastly, the game could help someone look for future Namco games and pay for a new copy of those.

All that being said, i'm quite sure Namco would highly prefer that everyone had pre-ordered this game for $60. :)


lol talk about rationalizing any way you can to justify buying the game used to save a few bucks


That is some really silly logic, my friend.


Buying a used game doesnt support namco bandai


Yeah, the buying used thing means jack and shit in supporting unless you buy all the DLC (if there is any), but even then you're just paying a fraction of what the game would've cost them to make it new. Word of mouth means little on the internet.

Also achievements as a way of supporting the developers? Are you fucking stupid? If that was the case Avatar: The Burning Earth would be having so many sequels because everyone 100% that POS game. I'm sorry for sounding confrontational, but achievements as a way of supporting game developers in anyway is the dumbest thing I've ever read.


WNYX is right on all accounts. Buying used obviously doesn't directly help the developer in any way, but it could possibly create some indirect benefits. I'm sure if someone asked any developer/publisher "would you rather a person buy your game used or not at all?" the answer would be a definitive "BUY IT USED" because of the indirect benefits that WNYX listed (the "Achievement List" one is a bit of a stretch, that would just fall under "word of mouth" from people seeing it on your achievement list.)

Also, I don't think he was trying to "rationalize" buying used at all.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:21 AM

I'm kinda interested in Inversion, but I still have Spec Ops and Binary Domain to play, plus it did get shit on by reviewers.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:31 AM

I'm kinda interested in Inversion, but I still have Spec Ops and Binary Domain to play, plus it did get shit on by reviewers.

Yeah the review are pretty bad. I have decided life is to short for bad games. I tried to play Thor and Iron Man 2 last night(got the for 9 bucks together at target last week). Horrible. I bet Inversion would be the same.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

ordered my first game this week from gamefly, on monday.

think i'll get it this week? never used gamefly before. i don't mind waiting, but im just curious, haha.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:05 AM

ordered my first game this week from gamefly, on monday.

think i'll get it this week? never used gamefly before. i don't mind waiting, but im just curious, haha.


Totally depends on where you are and which facility it will ship from. In Cali I usually get them from Pittsburg, PA and it takes anywhere from 4 to 8 business days.

#44 Barry Burton

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:33 AM

WNYX is right on all accounts. Buying used obviously doesn't directly help the developer in any way, but it could possibly create some indirect benefits. I'm sure if someone asked any developer/publisher "would you rather a person buy your game used or not at all?" the answer would be a definitive "BUY IT USED" because of the indirect benefits that WNYX listed (the "Achievement List" one is a bit of a stretch, that would just fall under "word of mouth" from people seeing it on your achievement list.)

Also, I don't think he was trying to "rationalize" buying used at all.


he was and so are you

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

I love that you can accuse someone of "rationalizing" their perfectly normal, legal behavior. "Support the developers don't buy used" is such a hilarious concept to me, especially on this board.

Thanks for the post OP. Picked up inversion. I'll play it once... worth $10 to me.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:33 AM

"Support the developers don't buy used" is such a hilarious concept to me

I don't work in the industry so I don't have an educated opinion. But I'm curious, why isn't buying new not supporting the developers?

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#47 Elusive

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:41 AM

I love that you can accuse someone of "rationalizing" their perfectly normal, legal behavior. "Support the developers don't buy used" is such a hilarious concept to me, especially on this board.

Thanks for the post OP. Picked up inversion. I'll play it once... worth $10 to me.


I think what started the subject was that someone claimed that buying used was supporting the developer. No one seemed to be accusing anyone over the morality of buying used in the first place.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:51 AM

I'm lost at the argument composition. Nevermind I won't mingle :lol:

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:55 AM

I like when people buy used in order to not support the developers.

It's so cute when they do that.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:14 AM

I don't work in the industry so I don't have an educated opinion. But I'm curious, why isn't buying new not supporting the developers?


The developer only gets money from the first sale of the product. Any re-sale does not benefit the developer. Just like when you buy a used car, the car maker does not get anything from the sale (only the seller).

Personally, I don't mind used stuff (including video games). It's probably a little silly (although admirable) to buy a new game (instead of used) based on the thought that you will help the developer. The only thing that will truly help game developers be profitable is the quality of game they produce and how they sell it. If they do that right, they'll figure out a way to make money.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:35 AM

I love that you can accuse someone of "rationalizing" their perfectly normal, legal behavior. "Support the developers don't buy used" is such a hilarious concept to me, especially on this board.

Thanks for the post OP. Picked up inversion. I'll play it once... worth $10 to me.


i buy used games too, i just don't try to convince myself or anybody else that buying used can help the developer when it doesn't

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:06 AM

True that. If the developers made a good game, they will be making a ton of money. Now if the developers are rushing their products, or just plainly inepted, they won't sell any. There's nothing wrong with buying a used game. Most of us don't play them anyway. :lol:

The developer only gets money from the first sale of the product. Any re-sale does not benefit the developer. Just like when you buy a used car, the car maker does not get anything from the sale (only the seller).

Personally, I don't mind used stuff (including video games). It's probably a little silly (although admirable) to buy a new game (instead of used) based on the thought that you will help the developer. The only thing that will truly help game developers be profitable is the quality of game they produce and how they sell it. If they do that right, they'll figure out a way to make money.


i buy used games too, i just don't try to convince myself or anybody else that buying used can help the developer when it doesn't


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:19 AM

In for Inversion for 360 & Sniper Elite V2 for PS3....really don't need with a huge backlog I got but didn't get Sniper on BF so can't let it pass by again so just got it and Inversion.....pretty happy!....only $24.59 for both:-).

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:52 AM

Warrior's Orochi for $20 is a really good price. The game has a lot to do for people who like those kind of games.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:53 AM

ordered my first game this week from gamefly, on monday.

think i'll get it this week? never used gamefly before. i don't mind waiting, but im just curious, haha.


If you ordered a single game it may take a while to get to you. Two or more gets to you faster.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

Yeah, the buying used thing means jack and shit in supporting unless you buy all the DLC (if there is any), but even then you're just paying a fraction of what the game would've cost them to make it new. Word of mouth means little on the internet.

Also achievements as a way of supporting the developers? Are you fucking stupid? If that was the case Avatar: The Burning Earth would be having so many sequels because everyone 100% that POS game. I'm sorry for sounding confrontational, but achievements as a way of supporting game developers in anyway is the dumbest thing I've ever read.


Don't be such a jerk and so narrow minded. If you read what I said, I lumped achievement lists in with word of mouth. I have gotten interested in games because I saw a friend of mine had that game because of its achievements in their trophy list or Xbox Achievements list. No one would be as stupid to think that earning achievements directly benefits the developer. I am simply saying that when you see other people playing a game, it might make you have more interest in that same game and want to buy it.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:40 PM

Look at it this way, you're taking a copy away from gamefly that can no longer be rented. Gamefly bought the game just as any other retailer has too, so it's the same as buying new in that sense.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

Look at it this way, you're taking a copy away from gamefly that can no longer be rented. Gamefly bought the game just as any other retailer has too, so it's the same as buying new in that sense.



would you feel this way if you were the developer?

again i buy plenty of games used, but lets be real here

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

For those interested in dbz ut

It is a giant leap backwards from tenkaichi 3

the issue is its a been there done that with the story mode
the show's been gone forever so they can't just make up new characters
and the controls are pretty bleh

that being said ive bought it at 40 when it was taking forever to drop and then again at 25 and couldnt justify it but 13 might be the right price point

warriors orochi 3 while still in my massive koei backlog is for a fan of the genre/series worth every bit the retail price so 20 is a great deal HOWEVER unlike 2 this one has dropped steadily so you might be able to hold out for 15 if it's going in the backlog

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

would you feel this way if you were the developer?

again i buy plenty of games used, but lets be real here


Being real, I think everyone here is about saving money more than helping the developer. If we're going to help the developer, we need to be paying $60 as soon as the game comes out right? It certainly can't help them a whole lot to wait and pay $10 for it, new or not. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aside from bonuses and such isn't the amount the developer is paid pretty much set at the beginning? I think this would make buying new help the publisher more than the developer.