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#91 The Crotch

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

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I thought that RE 4, 5 and 6 all had great boss fights.

Haven't played 5 and 6, but fair point on 4. They did overuse a certain Middle Earth troll a little, but it was otherwise pretty well done. It's also stretching the definition of "recent", since the game first came out nearly eight years ago...

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#92 corrosivefrost

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

I thought that RE 4, 5 and 6 all had great boss fights.


I'll agree on RE4.
I think the boss fights in RE5 (mostly) were terrible.
RE6 is somewhere in between RE4 and RE5.

#93 whoknows

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

Not all of them were terrible, but RE5 has one of the worst boss fights ever.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

I thought that RE 4, 5 and 6 all had great boss fights.



Resident Evil 4 had some AWESOME boss fights, but that isn't apart of this HD era of gaming. Resident Evil 5's boss fights were decent, but boulder punching Chris is the only thing that stands out the most :(


Only leon's boss fights annoyed me in RE6 I got tired of killing simmons in different animal forms



I've done Leon's campaign and I just can't bring myself to play the game ever again. Shit gameplay still makes a boss fight a shitty boss fight. Hey guys, here is a ton of ammo, go kill everything! Not to mention all of the QTE boss fights :D

#95 The Crotch

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

The final boss of FTL, as has been mentioned, is pretty lame. It breaks a bunch of established game rules so instead of this awesome attrition fight where both ships pound the shit out of each-other until only one barely-working piece of scrap remains, the boss operates at nearly full functionality no matter what you do, so you just have to kill it as fast as you can.

I really can not stress enough how much I hate it when games invent special rules for their bosses. Fire Emblem 10 did the same thing for its final boss. Up to that point, everything has been predictable math, but suddenly it's all a bunch of random shit.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

Fuck yeah, I wanna platform across rockets! That shit was badassery at its finest, yo.

#97 corrosivefrost

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

Resident Evil 4 had some AWESOME boss fights, but that isn't apart of this HD era of gaming. Resident Evil 5's boss fights were decent, but boulder punching Chris is the only thing that stands out the most :(

I've done Leon's campaign and I just can't bring myself to play the game ever again. Shit gameplay still makes a boss fight a shitty boss fight. Hey guys, here is a ton of ammo, go kill everything! Not to mention all of the QTE boss fights :D


I think you have RE5 and RE6 mixed up. ;)
The only boss fight I think is worth remembering from RE5 is the 7 minutes encounter with Wesker and Jill.

Anything in Leon's campaign from RE6 is better to me than everything but the Wesker boss fight from RE5.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

Not all of them were terrible, but RE5 has one of the worst boss fights ever.


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#99 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

I think you have RE5 and RE6 mixed up. ;)
The only boss fight I think is worth remembering from RE5 is the 7 minutes encounter with Wesker and Jill.

Anything in Leon's campaign from RE6 is better to me than everything but the Wesker boss fight from RE5.



Let's put it this way. Dead Space 1 is better than RE5 and RE6.


Still I can't think of any boss fights that were better than Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. Old Monk boss fight was freaking awesome when you get to be the Old Monk :D

#100 whoknows

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:03 PM

Worst boss fight ever


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:04 PM

Let's put it this way. Dead Space 1 is better than RE5 and RE6.


Still I can't think of any boss fights that were better than Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. Old Monk boss fight was freaking awesome when you get to be the Old Monk :D


The Dead Space games have been better than the Resident Evil games this gen, easily.

Y'know, I can think of games with terrible boss fights easily. Funny how the bad ones stick out more;
I can't think of a single boss fight in the ME games that was actually good. Maybe okay, but most are terrible, IMO.
And for the record, even after being screwed by the 3rd boss fight (I think) in Deus Ex HR, I still don't understand the complaints and thought they were fine.
Standout boss fights... it's mostly just Demon's Souls/Dark Souls, I suppose.
There were some good fights in GoW3. Ninja Gaiden 2 had some good ones. Bayonetta had some pretty good ones too, though not without some large annoyances.

#102 whoknows

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:05 PM

Dead Space was better than RE5, but RE5 was more fun...however that works.

I've spent a lot more time playing RE5 than I did playing Dead Space.

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#103 corrosivefrost

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:10 PM

Dead Space was better than RE5, but RE5 was more fun...however that works.

I've spent a lot more time playing RE5 than I did playing Dead Space.


Mercenaries mode?
Maybe the coop?

Speaking of Mercenaries, I bought the two new maps for RE6 but haven't played them.
Are you going to grab them? If so, we should play again! (We should play again regardless...)

#104 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

The Dead Space games have been better than the Resident Evil games this gen, easily.



I still need to play Dead Space 2.

Seriously though, only the Souls game come to mind for recent boss fights. I could totally add SWTOR into the mix, but MMOs are always about boss fights.

/edit: I was totally into Mercenaries Mode in RE4 and RE5. Krauser was my shit.

#105 The Crotch

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

I felt bad for a moment for not bringing up Skyward Sword in a discussion of boss fights but then I remembered that I haven't played enough of that game to really comment on the bosses. Trying to play that game at the same time as Xenoblade Chronicles was a terrible idea.

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#106 whoknows

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:15 PM

Mercenaries mode?
Maybe the coop?

Speaking of Mercenaries, I bought the two new maps for RE6 but haven't played them.
Are you going to grab them? If so, we should play again! (We should play again regardless...)


I didn't know there were two new maps :lol:

I'll get them just so we can play ;)

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

Dead Space was better than RE5, but RE5 was more fun...however that works.

I've spent a lot more time playing RE5 than I did playing Dead Space


It's the co-op; co-op can make even a bad game seem good.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

DS 2 is an amazing game play it before 3 comes out in three months

#109 CaptainJoel

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

Hey guys, lets let you learn how to play a game and then guess what? Boss fight? Yeah we forgot how to make those, so lets just add this really lame repeating sequence and slow it down at the end... Not done with the game yet, so no spoilers!

Okay people, question time: Which games in recent years has the best and worst boss fights?

Worst Boss Fights:
-Deus Ex: HR
-ME3 (It is like, hey this is epic, but this boss fight, yeah this part is lame)

Best Boss Fights:
-? I was gonna put in False Emperor HM Flashpoint but I guess MMOs don't really count on this list...

This is actually something I was talking about with my brothers today and I think I have a good list.

Worst Boss Fights:
-Deus Ex HR (Of course)
-Batman: Arkham Asylum
-Bioshock

Best:
-Ninja Blade
-Dead Rising
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Mass Effect 1

#110 whoknows

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

It's the co-op; co-op can make even a bad game seem good.


Is the co-op going to make DS3 the most funnest one?

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#111 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

Dead Rising had some hilariously awesome boss fights. All MGS games have awesome boss fights, even the PSP ones were epic!

#112 The Crotch

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

I, uh... I coulda gone without ever having played a Dead Rising boss fight.

Also, nobody has mentioned No More Heroes yet because we all fucking suck.

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#113 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

I guess I am realizing why I enjoy MMOs now.

#114 CaptainJoel

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

I, uh... I coulda gone without ever having played a Dead Rising boss fight.

Also, nobody has mentioned No More Heroes yet because we all fucking suck.

I held out on mentioning because I haven't finished the second game yet. Loved the first. The big finale boss was the best ever.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

This is actually something I was talking about with my brothers today and I think I have a good list.

Worst Boss Fights:
-Deus Ex HR (Of course)
-Batman: Arkham Asylum
-Bioshock

Best:
-Ninja Blade
-Dead Rising
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Mass Effect 1


I think I disagree with your entire list. :rofl:

-Deus Ex HR felt like MGS to me and I played it stealth, no kills, and even got the downgrade chip in Shanghai before the 3rd boss fight and while it made me rage and think it was impossible, I still don't have any problem with them. The only complaint I'll acknowledge is that you're forced to kill them instead of just tranquilize/stun them... but that's more of a narrative complaint than the actual mechanics, IMO.
-Batman's were fine, though the final boss was a huge letdown after taking on some of the other villains.
-Bioshock's final boss sucked, but it also had good ones, like the one versus Sander Cohen in Fort Frolic. Some of the early ones were good too, like the one in the Freezer.

-I don't remember if Ninja Blades were bad, so I can't say they were terrible right off the top of my head, but I could be repressing memories. I know I didn't consider them the best.
-Dead Rising's combat was so clunky that a lot of the boss fights came down to "how much have you leveled up, what are you carrying, and how can you abuse it". Some of the boss design was cool though. Love the prisoner's in the courtyard trolling people. :lol:
-While the idea behind the fights in ME were good, the combat in that game was so clunky that I can't classify them as anything more than average.
-I remember being disappointed by MGS4's boss fights, or annoyed, but I wouldn't say they're terrible by any means. Then again, I wouldn't say they were great either. Especially not for an MGS game. MGS and MGS2 will always have the best boss fights in that series for me.

#116 CaptainJoel

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

This was my favorite Dead Rising 1 boss battle, btw



#117 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

Deus Ex: HR Boss fights were horrible and even when you can melee one in the DLC, it was still pretty bad.

#118 CaptainJoel

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

I still need to play the DLC, but I heard the boss battle in that was better. I'd have liked those boss battles in the main game more if I'd been able to charisma my way out of them or something. I mean, Fuck. Those things felt so unRPG.

#119 j-cart

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

The DLC is fun, but the boss fight was just as bad as the main game.

#120 The Crotch

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

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