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#241 slidecage

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:33 PM

You can always trade here..or venture over to 99gamers (or not, I have issues getting games on that site)

TZ thanks for running the site and putting lots of time into it to make it work. I'm glad I was able to do some trading and get some great games in return.

Speaking of trades, I just had two matches on VGFive.


99.9% your matches will time out had a number matches all cancelled today
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#242 Cage017

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

I'm mad that this news came out on April Fool's Day.

Otherwise, I'm just disappointed. I have 0 points and 3 tokens and I received two current gen games from VGFive. I don't remember the last time Goozex did that so I feel I got my money and time worth out of VGFive. It's a shame because the community was a lot more civil than Goozex which is riddled with lots of spam posts. I wonder what will happen to the VGFive chatroom. Good bunch of people there.

TZ isn't a lawyer. Goozex is ran by one so I am not entirely surprised that something like this would happen. If Goozex adopts VGFive's model ( and who knows, maybe they'll offer TZ a job), I bet people would feel better. Although I have to wonder what would happen to those who have pending points and tokens at VGFive?


I hope more details on VGFive's fate is announced soon. I want to see some kind of happy ending for everyone.

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#243 Vinny

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:11 AM

I'm mad that this news came out on April Fool's Day.

Otherwise, I'm just disappointed. I have 0 points and 3 tokens and I received two current gen games from VGFive. I don't remember the last time Goozex did that so I feel I got my money and time worth out of VGFive. It's a shame because the community was a lot more civil than Goozex which is riddled with lots of spam posts. I wonder what will happen to the VGFive chatroom. Good bunch of people there.

TZ isn't a lawyer. Goozex is ran by one so I am not entirely surprised that something like this would happen. If Goozex adopts VGFive's model ( and who knows, maybe they'll offer TZ a job), I bet people would feel better. Although I have to wonder what would happen to those who have pending points and tokens at VGFive?


I hope more details on VGFive's fate is announced soon. I want to see some kind of happy ending for everyone.


I don't see how this would benefit Goozex in any way, other than eliminating a competitor. The sites aren't all that different. And as slidecage said, most VGFive users were disgruntled Goozex users who will likely leave/stop trading once they learn Goozex bought out VGFive.

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#244 AFRO insomniac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:36 AM

I'll post what I said in the VGFive thread:



I think most users are feeling it because they helped TZ make VGFive what it is today.

Besides the trading and funding of the website (paid tokens), many users spent hours combing through the game database to report bugs and release dates. We stirred interest in the forums and helped promote the website free of charge.

This website really was a community effort and it's sad to see the owner throw so many users under the bus after they bust their asses for him.

Without the help of its users, VGFive would not be where it is today.

I think the worst part of it is that he took advantage of the goozer user base who had already been burnt by goozex management.

TZ used everyone as tools for his personal gain.

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#245 eLefAdEr

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:34 AM

TZ used everyone as tools for his personal gain.


If you want to use black and white terms only I can't disagree, but I'm guessing it's slightly more complicated.

I wonder what people would say if Cheapy decided to sell CAG.

#246 slidecage

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:47 AM

If you want to use black and white terms only I can't disagree, but I'm guessing it's slightly more complicated.

I wonder what people would say if Cheapy decided to sell CAG.


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#247 Vinny

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:49 AM

If you want to use black and white terms only I can't disagree, but I'm guessing it's slightly more complicated.

I wonder what people would say if Cheapy decided to sell CAG.


It's not the same thing. Those of us who are upset have money and/or games tied up on VGfive. TZ needed users to help fund VGFive and make it grow in order to have an active trading base.

Cheapy probably needed help with modding and administrating but nobody here ever had to use their money to buy tokens to use CAG, nor did we ever need to give up our games in order to be part of the community.

If Cheapy sold CAG, I'd be sad that the community might change but I wouldn't feel exploited because I never had to pay/give up anything to use the site. In fact, I'd say I actually benefited from all the free information I can get off of CAG on deals and whatnot. But TZ selling VGfive kinda feels like he took our investments and got rich off of it.

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#248 PlowK1NG

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:05 AM

JP (TheGooz, Goozex) has an history of screwing his costumers. He's also a mod on Goozex as Cryonics (who happens to be one of the beta testers for the goozex exchange). Check the 8/22 entry below.

http://www.tnlc.com/...aw/history.html

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#249 eLefAdEr

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:26 AM

It's not the same thing. Those of us who are upset have money and/or games tied up on VGfive. TZ needed users to help fund VGFive and make it grow in order to have an active trading base.

Cheapy probably needed help with modding and administrating but nobody here ever had to use their money to buy tokens to use CAG, nor did we ever need to give up our games in order to be part of the community.

If Cheapy sold CAG, I'd be sad that the community might change but I wouldn't feel exploited because I never had to pay/give up anything to use the site. In fact, I'd say I actually benefited from all the free information I can get off of CAG on deals and whatnot. But TZ selling VGfive kinda feels like he took our investments and got rich off of it.


Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. Still, neither of us have all of the facts.

BTW, TZ did confirm (about the only thing he has so far) that VGFive.com will continue to operate and there are no current plans to merge it with Goozex. Token purchases still haven't been enabled though so there's obvious work to be done.

#250 eLefAdEr

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:29 AM

JP (TheGooz, Goozex) has an history of screwing his costumers. He's also a mod on Goozex as Cryonics (who happens to be one of the beta testers for the goozex exchange). Check the 8/22 entry below.

http://www.tnlc.com/...aw/history.html

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That is ridiculous.

I'm sure it's been mentioned in the Goozex thread that he also made about 90% of the forums invisible if one isn't a registered user and logged in.

#251 taintedzodiac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:51 AM

I'll post what I said in the VGFive thread:



I think most users are feeling it because they helped TZ make VGFive what it is today.

Besides the trading and funding of the website (paid tokens), many users spent hours combing through the game database to report bugs and release dates. We stirred interest in the forums and helped promote the website free of charge.

This website really was a community effort and it's sad to see the owner throw so many users under the bus after they bust their asses for him.

Without the help of its users, VGFive would not be where it is today.

I think the worst part of it is that he took advantage of the goozer user base who had already been burnt by goozex management.

TZ used everyone as tools for his personal gain.


While I understand your anger, I just wanted to point out that it was mostly fellow CAG's that had their credits/tokens locked up today when you decided to post all of those fake offers. There was nothing making them miss out on actual trades except you.

#252 PlowK1NG

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:55 AM

Was it really antlp? What a douche move that was.

After thinking clearly, I'll continue to use vgfive for now. I'll treat it like Goozex, keeping a low point balance, and only trading when I know it's the best deal for me.

#253 eLefAdEr

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:00 AM

The douches really came out of the woodwork today.

#254 neocisco

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:02 AM

Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. Still, neither of us have all of the facts.

BTW, TZ did confirm (about the only thing he has so far) that VGFive.com will continue to operate and there are no current plans to merge it with Goozex. Token purchases still haven't been enabled though so there's obvious work to be done.


I wouldn't be surprised if this includes changing all of the point values to match Goozex, which would make VGFive redundant and essentially useless.

This whole thing stinks on ice.

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#255 applecider

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:23 AM

That's perfectly fair, but I see absolutely no reason to involve my family in this. I think it's a fair request to keep the anger and backlash within boundaries.


You seem to think it is a-okay to bring your family into it when you list being a "father of one" as if it is some kind of solid reason to trust that you are an upstanding person. You're overreacting to a fairly innocuous comment, at least as far as your kid is concerned. It was pretty harsh toward you, but you've already made it clear that your character is fair game.

I feel bad for the folks who donated their Best Buy credit with the belief that they were helping to set the foundation for an amazing community-based trading site. Your reasons for ditching the community and site are really beside the point. What IS frustrating is your lack of communication explaining the circumstances. Letting people wonder on April Fools' was an added insult to injury.

#256 TheChuck03

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:28 AM

I have been actively reading the posts on VG Five today and there we some discussion about sharing TZ's address from trades and things that can happen.

I am sorry but we are discussing a video game trading website. If you have invested into video games to a person you have never met, to the point that you wish bodily harm upon a person and their family....you are at fault before you lose your investment.

I also loved VG Five and despise the morass that was once Goozex. I am disappointed in what happened, but always maintained my investment in a artificial currency at a minimal amount as I will never trust anyone, especially someone I never met.

VG Five was special because of the community, not the principal owner. I just hope our community maintains awareness of their thinking and considers the words they choose. Because without a positive, solid community we are nothing.

#257 Kylearan

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:34 AM

EDIT:

There is obviously something more going on here than we've been told. The PR reveal was poorly handled, leading to a lot of backlash that could (possibly) have been avoided. At least TZ is still admin, so I say there's still hope.

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#258 AFRO insomniac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:43 AM

TZ I'm still waiting for my account to be fixed so that I can edit my request list and leave feedback for other traders...

Until my account is fixed I will further press the paypal claim for the credits that are essentially useless to me at this point.

I'd advise anyone else unsatisfied with the current state of VGFive (unable to buy tokens at this point) to file a paypal claim against TZ.

The man practically robbed this community of honest traders and has zero remorse whatsoever.

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#259 taintedzodiac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:59 AM

TZ I'm still waiting for my account to be fixed so that I can edit my request list and leave feedback for other traders...

Until my account is fixed I will further press the paypal claim for the credits that are essentially useless to me at this point.

I'd advise anyone else unsatisfied with the current state of VGFive (unable to buy tokens at this point) to file a paypal claim against TZ.

The man practically robbed this community of honest traders and has zero remorse whatsoever.


As I've said before, there is currently nothing I can personally do to fix your account. Your decision to create almost 200 fake trades has apparently gotten you banned from the site, so at this point there is literally nothing I can do at all for you. Regardless of what you may think regarding remorse, I was trying to get your account problems fixed for quite some time yesterday, but you decided to go rogue instead.

#260 taintedzodiac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

You seem to think it is a-okay to bring your family into it when you list being a "father of one" as if it is some kind of solid reason to trust that you are an upstanding person. You're overreacting to a fairly innocuous comment, at least as far as your kid is concerned. It was pretty harsh toward you, but you've already made it clear that your character is fair game.


I was asking for my family to be left out of this more in response to earlier threats against them that I didn't want to start seeing here as well. That's the context more-so than that specific one. Sorry if it came across stronger than that. This is my family we're talking about, and I'd hope anyone would react the game if their family were threatened (no matter how innocuous people may assume the threats are).

#261 Renaissance 2K

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

We are Goozex.

Open your queues, and surrender your games.

We will add your economic and technological distinctiveness to our own.

Your community will adapt to serve us.

Resistance is futile.







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#262 chris100185

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

As I've said before, there is currently nothing I can personally do to fix your account. Your decision to create almost 200 fake trades has apparently gotten you banned from the site, so at this point there is literally nothing I can do at all for you. Regardless of what you may think regarding remorse, I was trying to get your account problems fixed for quite some time yesterday, but you decided to go rogue instead.


He's also trying to play the victim over at 99.....and pretty much everyone is laughing at him.

#263 chris100185

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

Also to all the people bashing TZ, I was the same as you yesterday, but sit back and think about it. He's still responding to the people in this thread, and yesterday AFTER the deal was officially announced, he matched up to send three games out to people.

These aren't the actions of someone who got $$$ in their eyes and decided to run. I'm thinking there's more to the story than that, that for whatever reason he's not allowed to go into.

#264 Renaissance 2K

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:39 PM

I was a little mad at TZ until I realized I would have probably ended up doing the same thing. I don't know who approached who here, but it's a tough project for a guy with a family to handle, and you have to consider their happiness when a reasonable offer is on the table.

I'm still annoyed with Goozex, though, who basically told their community, "If you don't like it, leave!" and then snatched up the sanctuary that resulted. What they meant was, "Our way or the highway!"
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#265 kube00

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:47 PM

He's also trying to play the victim over at 99.....and pretty much everyone is laughing at him.


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#266 chris100185

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:01 PM

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#267 Rictor

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:08 PM

JP (TheGooz, Goozex) has an history of screwing his costumers. He's also a mod on Goozex as Cryonics (who happens to be one of the beta testers for the goozex exchange). Check the 8/22 entry below.

http://www.tnlc.com/...aw/history.html

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You so deserved to be banned. No one is on your side on either site. You created hundreds of fake trades on both sites tying up other user's points. You also made a bomb threat.

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#268 PlowK1NG

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:15 PM

I believe you are confusing me with someone else rictor.

#269 taintedzodiac

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

I believe you got the wrong guy rictor.


Plow wasn't involved in the fake trades as far as I'm aware.

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#270 bananafish900

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:55 PM

Hoping for some independent confirmation of this quote:

Tainted is probably not allowed to talk about it anymore but from what was stated in the chat room TZ was threatened by Goozex long before this sale took place. He never got into details about the lawsuits while I was around but he did say that they were threatening him with lawsuits. This was more than a month ago.


Anyone see anything like that in the VGFive chat? Or through any other channel?