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#12241 Neuro5i5

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

Netscape Navigator FTW!

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#12242 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

Netscape Navigator FTW!

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My mom used to have WebTV. For some reason she has real difficulties using a computer with even simple things like using a mouse :roll: but she sure was able to use that old raggedy WebTV.

She was sad when it went away.

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#12243 Kaltic

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

:rofl:

And Dolphin, Boat, Silk and Safari too. We must have those!

As far as this making a 'complete package' for multiple browsers etc goes let's please remember this is one guy doing this in his spare time and not getting paid.

Yes he would like to get Valve's attention but he doesn't need to do everything under the sun that they should be doing in all possible browsers.

I know a couple of people who are in the games business. They had a portfolio before they really got into it but it was 3D work, mods, demos and such. It's not like they made Call of Duty all on their own for free before they were able to get any development houses to look at them.


Are you saying we shouldn't give suggestions? It isn't as if someone said if he didn't get it on more browsers he absolutely wouldn't get a job. Just that it would most likely increase his chances. If someone made Call of Duty that would most likely also greatly increase their chances at getting a job compared to simply making some models.

#12244 Neuro5i5

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

As far as this making a 'complete package' for multiple browsers etc goes let's please remember this is one guy doing this in his spare time and not getting paid.


As a CAG, I'm fully appreciative. I switched browsers because of his efforts and given constant praise and will donate as soon as it is feasible for me to do so. I'm just playing devil's advocate on Valve's behalf. Being on the hiring side of the equation for some time anything an individual does that can set themselves apart from the other hands in the air deserves extra attention. That is assuming all this Valve/employment talk is at all serious.



My mom used to have WebTV. For some reason she has real difficulties using a computer with even simple things like using a mouse :roll: but she sure was able to use that old raggedy WebTV.
She was sad when it went away.




While, I (more so my family) have had a computer since 1981, WebTV was my first personal 'internet' capable device giving me my first email address. Fond memories indeed. I find it interesting that the "new" smart TV's being released are basically modern integrated versions of WebTV. :)

#12245 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

Are you saying we shouldn't give suggestions? It isn't as if someone said if he didn't get it on more browsers he absolutely wouldn't get a job. Just that it would most likely increase his chances. If someone made Call of Duty that would most likely also greatly increase their chances at getting a job compared to simply making some models.


Yes. I am saying we shouldn't give suggestions. That's exactly it Kaltic. :roll:

No I am saying remember he is doing this for free.

Also you don't work for Valve and I don't work for Valve so anything we say is or isn't increasing his chances is just guessing. For all we know, getting their attention could require making a Youtube video singing the Barney song. We just don't know.

PS - No one's going to make Call of Duty in their spare time. Watch Indie Game the movie. They barely made those little 8 or 16 bit looking games and it took doing just that for years and sacrificing a bunch to do it.

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#12246 Therapy

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

I think we're all perfectly aware that the guy is doing this all in his spare time without being payed. That doesn't mean we're not allowed to comment and suggest. All the comments thus far have been positive anyway and suggestions are all with the best intentions. I'm also sure jshackles doesn't need you to filter out what's good and bad advice, Motoki.

As far as the complaining comments... I guess I missed the part where there was actually any complaining?

#12247 MrBonk

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

Well I knew this place was going without complaining for far too long. Thanks Firefox people. You sure fixed that. :-P

Complaining? More like Suggestions and hopeful wishes!:roll:

#12248 juanjava

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

jshackles, my $0.01 is this: I switched to Chrome (even though I much prefer Firefox) for the Enhanced Steam extension. You want Valve to really notice you, find a way to make a complete package. Meaning making a equally functional extension on Chrome, Firefox and dare I say it, Explorer. Remember, Valve and Steam have customer ease and functionality in mind as evidenced by their client service. Expanding your browser base equals expanding your user base as well as more word of mouth.


I don't think Valve main focus will be "hey, he can program an extension" but "hey, why we couldn't see the features he is implementing before?". I believe they will see the creativity behind the project. That's the thing I like most from enhancedSteam...

You know what feature would be great? An enhanced metacritic featuring the user's score. I usually don't care about the critic's score, the user's is more useful...

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

And Dolphin, Boat, Silk and Safari too. We must have those!

Lynx or get out.

Also, someone have a sale. I'm bored.

I don't think Valve main focus will be "hey, he can program an extension" but "hey, why we couldn't see the features he is implementing before?". I believe they will see the creativity behind the project.

I think it'll be helpful to show the dedication and interest in the platform. Some of the features of the plug-in (extension, whatever Chrome calls 'em) are probably things Valve doesn't really WANT called attention to in the name of moving products, namely historical pricing ("You could have gotten this cheaper") and DRM alerts ("Warning Will Robinson!"). They'd rather you think you're getting a great price and trouble-free experience.

#12250 Neuro5i5

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:03 PM

Personally, I think we should all bang heads and build the first SteamTV (SmartTV + integrated and upgrade-able Steam Box + integrated and upgade-able HTPC). Then we'd all be hired by Valve. :)

#12251 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:04 PM

As far as I am concerned all the 'GEE I SURE WISH THERE WAS A FIREFOX VERSION' for the kabillionth time and sad crying emoticon faces = passive complaining with a bit of guilt mixed in.

But fine, fine, do carry on the with complaints suggestions.

Glad to see this thread is still this thread, just sleeping.

After all I am the instigator of all arguments by the world according to Kaltic so it won't do for me to see things quiet for too long.

You know what feature would be great? An enhanced metacritic featuring the user's score. I usually don't care about the critic's score, the user's is more useful...



I hadn't thought of that for an advanced Steam feature but it would be a great one. A real suggestion even that's actually asking for, you know, a feature.

Seriously though I never care about the 'critics' score and go straight to the user ones. Sometimes I go look at the scores on Amazon too.

Lynx or get out.
I think it'll be helpful to show the dedication and interest in the platform. Some of the features of the plug-in (extension, whatever Chrome calls 'em) are probably things Valve doesn't really WANT called attention to in the name of moving products, namely historical pricing ("You could have gotten this cheaper") and DRM alerts ("Warning Will Robinson!"). They'd rather you think you're getting a great price and trouble-free experience.



I had thought about that too. At the same time though, those are probably the most useful features to me so for purely selfish reasons I don't want them to go away. :-P

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#12252 Detruire

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

As far as I am concerned all the 'GEE I SURE WISH THERE WAS A FIREFOX VERSION' for the kabillionth time and sad crying emoticon faces = passive complaining with a bit of guilt mixed in.

That's funny: I've been looking out for that kind of comment, and have only noticed a few over the last few days.

#12253 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

You know it's slow times around here when we're squabbling about a damned plugin.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

You know it's slow times around here when we're squabbling about a damned plugin.

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#12255 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

New daily deal in 49 minutes!


Oh you know it will be something that has been in an indie bundle or something that will be in an indie bundle for only 50% off.

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#12256 gilby

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

Would love that extension on Opera :D


Any chance of getting this to work in Lynx?

Aaaand I see I was ninja-ed. I actually used Lynx for quite some time. I kinda miss it.

#12257 jshackles

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Hey everyone - just got up. :)

Thanks for everyone's suggestions and comments. And Idiotekque was right - Enhanced Steam started off as a Firefox / Google Chrome Greasemonkey script, but as more features were being requested it got harder and harder to duplicate all of those features across multiple browser platforms. Obviously, the script itself outgrew what Greasemonkey was capable of - so I had to decide on a platform to continue development on, and Google Chrome has (I think) the best features and lowest barrier of entry for developers. It has Chrome sync features, generally painless automatic updates, etc.

However, I'm not opposed to going back and implementing a few of the Enhanced Steam features into a separate Firefox plugin, I just don't think it would ever be as feature-rich as the Chrome plugin, for the reasons mentioned above. Certainly at first it would simply be the highlighting of games and DLC. If the interest is there, it seems the logical thing to move forward with. ;)

#12258 theemadgamer

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

Hey everyone - just got up. :)

Thanks for everyone's suggestions and comments. And Idiotekque was right - Enhanced Steam started off as a Firefox / Google Chrome Greasemonkey script, but as more features were being requested it got harder and harder to duplicate all of those features across multiple browser platforms. Obviously, the script itself outgrew what Greasemonkey was capable of - so I had to decide on a platform to continue development on, and Google Chrome has (I think) the best features and lowest barrier of entry for developers. It has Chrome sync features, generally painless automatic updates, etc.

However, I'm not opposed to going back and implementing a few of the Enhanced Steam features into a separate Firefox plugin, I just don't think it would ever be as feature-rich as the Chrome plugin, for the reasons mentioned above. Certainly at first it would simply be the highlighting of games and DLC. If the interest is there, it seems the logical thing to move forward with. ;)


If it matters, I'll chime in as a Firefox user who would gladly use a less feature rich version. It'd still be an improvement over no features and greatly appreciated! :applause:

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

Any chance of getting this to work in Lynx?

Aaaand I see I was ninja-ed. I actually used Lynx for quite some time. I kinda miss it.

You can have Lynx. I'm holding out for the Contiki version.

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#12260 jshackles

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:32 PM

If it matters, I'll chime in as a Firefox user who would gladly use a less feature rich version. It'd still be an improvement over no features and greatly appreciated! :applause:


I'll look into this. I have a few irons in the fire with new features for the Chrome addon, but I might be able to whip up something easy for Firefox users, since I already have the code and all.

Also, anyone who has a reddit account should go here and upvote me:

http://www.reddit.co...s_new_features/

#12261 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:42 PM

You can have Lynx. I'm holding out for the Contiki version.

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I'm so glad they let me know it was modern. And here I was thinking it was old fashioned.

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#12262 louiedog

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

ATTN: Motoki (and others)

From @theowaern (The Journey Down dev) on the subject of Steam keys:

And if you got it via a bundle, don't worry, we're workin' on getting out keys to the respective bundles. Should go live the coming week. :)



#12263 asheskitty

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

This thread has gotten amusing. It's like watching a bunch of monotheists argue why their god is the only god.

I use many browsers, they all have their niches that they are better at. I have at least the trinity of FOC (Firefox, Opera, Chrome) installed on all my machines. (And Opera user since v3.3 in '98). I'd note that Steam's captive browser is WebKit based, thus making chrome the closest popular target.

While requesting silly versions, I'll toss my hat in the ring with a request for a Enhanced Steam package for GNU Emacs.

I used to work next door to WebTV. The most amusing memory was the linux riots protests when M$ bought them.

@Motoki, my mom is the same way, though a few years ago I gave her a laptop running ubuntu (that I manage) and she's been quite happy with that. As long as she reliably launch her brower and get to Yahoo and YouTube fine, she's happy.

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#12264 louiedog

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

Today's deal is Lunar Flight at 66% off ($3.39)

A modern take on the classic arcade game, Lunar Lander, Lunar Flight extends the experience to a fully fictionalized and accessible lunar module simulator providing a variety of mission types involving transporting cargo, acquiring data at survey locations and locating lost cargo.
Genre: Indie, Simulation

#12265 Cheaplikeafox OS X

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:52 PM

Just a reminder, Lunar Flight was in the Indie Royale Back To School bundle.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

I don't think Valve main focus will be "hey, he can program an extension" but "hey, why we couldn't see the features he is implementing before?". I believe they will see the creativity behind the project. That's the thing I like most from enhancedSteam...

You know what feature would be great? An enhanced metacritic featuring the user's score. I usually don't care about the critic's score, the user's is more useful...


I find user scores pretty unreliable. Typically loaded with trolls and fanboys that give unrealistic scores. I just look at vids and screens and determine if it looks like something I would enjoy.

#12267 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:07 PM

I find user scores pretty unreliable. Typically loaded with trolls and fanboys that give unrealistic scores. I just look at vids and screens and determine if it looks like something I would enjoy.


I don't just look at the scores but you do get a much larger sample with the user scores than you do with the critic ones. I tend to feel like in most cases the legitimate reviewers outnumber the trolls and balance them out or if everyone is slamming the hell out of the scores than maybe there's some issue that's really pissing people off like draconian DRM, which is something the critics won't ding a game for at all usually but I want to know about it.

I think Amazon has a pretty good system where you get the most useful (rated by other users) positive review side by side with the most useful negative one. It's still subject to abuse and trolling but it would really require a mass coordinated effort to do that.

I'm not saying I use metacritic (or Amazon) users scores as an end all be all, but personally I find them to have more value on the whole than the critic ones, which I feel in many cases are out of touch with the average users and those gets are getting comped stuff and so forth.

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#12268 gilby

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:13 PM

So I had a Cyrillic subject header in an email from Steam sitting in my inbox this morning. That's generally a pretty good sign that I just won something on Steamgifts.

#12269 jshackles

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:57 PM

Okay so I ported a fair amount of code to Firefox and submitted my Add-On for inclusion in their Add-On repository (store? page? thing?)

If anyone would like to test and provide feedback, you can install it directly from my website. Doing so, it won't automatically update when I make changes (best I can tell, that requires the Mozilla site approval).

http://enhancedsteam...anced-steam.xpi

Let me know what kind of interesting new bugs you guys find!

EDIT: at the moment, this is just the basic stuff - cleaning up the javascript in search, highlighting games you own and games on your wishlist, highlighting owned DLC on the game page. I may be able to port a few of the other features over, but this should be a good "jumping off" point.

#12270 motoki

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

Amazon price matched the Command and Conquer pack to the gamefly gamestop $16.99 sale which means it's $11.99 with the Editor's Choice $5 if you have any left.

Tony said they weren't going to do it so it's probably a mistake auto-price match like the Hotline Miami $5 was. If you want it for $12 I would grab it ASAP.

*Edited to add: It's Origin only, but I know some people here were interested in it if it was $12 so figured I'd repost that here.

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