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#721 moothemagiccow

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

Good article. I feel Nintendo lost its way starting (at least) with the Wii. The 3DS and Wii U were both bungled products in terms of design. Gimmicks are forced into every product the make these days, ruining their hardware. I'm fairly certain that Iwata will resign this month, once the poor financials are reported for the end of their fiscal year. But I don't see any easy way out of this mess for Nintendo. The Wii U is set in stone; they can't just improve the weak hardware and go forward.


There's a tacit admission among other companies that the dualshock 2 and nice graphics are not selling enough.
-sixaxis
-Kinect
-Move
-3D games for ps3 and pc (sterescopic, anaglyph)
-vita's front and back touchscreen
-ps4's tiny touchscreen
-motion controllers/kinect for pc
-smartglass
-using vita as ps3 controller
-subscriptions like xbox live and ps+
-DLC
-multiplayer tacked on to everything from uncharted to ninja gaiden

Gimmicks are here to stay

#722 Deader2818

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

When tech starts to hit a wall, what else can you?

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#723 RedvsBlue

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

When tech starts to hit a wall, what else can you?


Bingo

What are the major things we know about the PS4 at this point? Better graphics, cross play for Vita, and share button but let's be honest the biggest aspect will be better graphics (oh, almost forgot better AI, cause I know there'll be a complaint I missed that...) For that honor, what will we pay? $400-500

Gimmicks or not, at least Nintendo is trying to bring something new to the table rather than just better graphics. I'm just so tired of OMFG GRAPHICS ARE SO GOOD BRO!!!!!!!!!

#724 Blaster man

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:28 PM

Some of us like being on the cutting edge. Although I did get that out of my system when it comes to everything except for games a while back.


Ashamed HD-DVD adopter here. Bought my player for $500 in 2006. Sold my player on Craigslist in 2012 for $20.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

Ashamed HD-DVD adopter here. Bought my player for $500 in 2006. Sold my player on Craigslist in 2012 for $20.


For $20, you should have just kept it as a monument to remember your shame.

#726 Blaster man

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:22 PM

For $20, you should have just kept it as a monument to remember your shame.


Not worth it. The thing was as big as a tank. Seriously, it was massive and heavy. When trying to use it the start up time (I had the first model ever made) was over a minute long from the time you hit power to the time you could see anything on screen or even eject the tray. This was after I got the newest firmware on the thing too. It used to take a good three minutes to boot up.

I went through and sold all the disks I had for it that I could sell. There were a couple left that I gave for free to the guy that bought the player. $20 bought us some pizza that night. I turned my HD-DVD player into pizza.

#727 renique46

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:33 AM

You would think with all that cash they were printing around 08/09 they would have used the money to open up some internal studios to help make more games or to help free up the other main studios so that they could possibly make something else or a brand new ip ( who am i kidding). How long have people been asking for some sort of update to earthbound ffs.

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#728 AFRO insomniac

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:42 AM

I think most of the development as of recent has been on the 3DS side of things.

I remember people complaining that the 3DS had no games for the longest time and now it has so many good games you can't play them all fast enough.

Even this year there is a truck load of more games coming out for the system.

I'm hoping Nintendo shifts its focus from the 3DS to the Wii U now that the 3DS game library is stacked.

Luckily Monster Hunter has kept me completely satisfied (have barely touched any of my other games or consoles since I picked the game up).

As far as HD-DVD, I feel you on that. Mine is a giant heavy rock sitting behind my TV. I should really sell it, but it would hurt too much to get peanuts for it. Maybe it will get rare in 10 years? ;) Not a chance. :P

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#729 moothemagiccow

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:08 AM

Yeah I getcha but like renique said, expansion could've been a boon and helped with the many software droughts. Now they're doing odd stuff like merging (closing) offices because they can't seem to manage across time zones.

Technically Wii Sports/Wii Fit were new IPs and so was Xenoblade, but they seem more interested in branding things after seeing gameplay concepts than saying "what can we do with this character?"

#730 Blaster man

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:29 PM

The probability of me buying a Wii U at a higher price point increases as the Xbox "online only" and "no used game" stuff begins to materialize. It's starting to look like this gen will be PS4/Wii U for me. Obviously I'll wait till the unveiling like everyone else but when you've got an insider making those statements it seems likely that the rumors are true.

Of course the rumors could be true and they could back down after all the negativity.

#731 Chris in Cali

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:46 PM

If Gamestop runs a good trade in promotion towards the PS4, I see myself dusting off my Wii U for a well earned good riddance to Nintendo home consoles this gen(still slighter bitter about the Wii). If the machine does well a few years down the line, great, I can always re-buy it and at a cheaper price when it has games. Right now though, I'm very bitter by the complete lack of support and silence from Nintendo. They need an ambassador program for early Wii U adopter NOW.

#732 maximumzero

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:14 AM

If Gamestop runs a good trade in promotion towards the PS4, I see myself dusting off my Wii U for a well earned good riddance to Nintendo home consoles this gen(still slighter bitter about the Wii). If the machine does well a few years down the line, great, I can always re-buy it and at a cheaper price when it has games. Right now though, I'm very bitter by the complete lack of support and silence from Nintendo. They need an ambassador program for early Wii U adopter NOW.


...wait, why did you buy the console in the first place if there weren't games you wanted to play for it?

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#733 Deader2818

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:16 AM

If Gamestop runs a good trade in promotion towards the PS4, I see myself dusting off my Wii U for a well earned good riddance to Nintendo home consoles this gen(still slighter bitter about the Wii). If the machine does well a few years down the line, great, I can always re-buy it and at a cheaper price when it has games. Right now though, I'm very bitter by the complete lack of support and silence from Nintendo. They need an ambassador program for early Wii U adopter NOW.


hey, welcome to buying any system at launch!

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#734 AFRO insomniac

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:29 AM

Yeah if I were you I'd sell your Wii U (if you can get a reasonable amount back) until there are games that you want to play on the system.

I did the same thing with my Vita and have no regrets. Maybe a year or two from now I'll pick up a Vita again at a much discounted price and larger selection of games that I want to play.

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#735 moothemagiccow

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:02 AM

Way to live up to your user title, there. I'm pretty sure the VC thing is the ambassador program. Not sure why they need the 30 cents, Visa's probably getting most of it. It's very much a "seriously, don't sell your Wii U until Super Metroid comes out." The titles could be better (and include some n64 stuff), but Ice Climbers etc weren't exactly stellar prizes.

#736 KingBroly

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

The probability of me buying a Wii U at a higher price point increases as the Xbox "online only" and "no used game" stuff begins to materialize. It's starting to look like this gen will be PS4/Wii U for me. Obviously I'll wait till the unveiling like everyone else but when you've got an insider making those statements it seems likely that the rumors are true.

Of course the rumors could be true and they could back down after all the negativity.


I take it you don't remember beta testers/analysts/etc. telling Microsoft that Windows 8 was a terrible idea. And that the new Office DRM restriction (1 computer) was a terrible idea. Microsoft doesn't listen to anyone, and they most certainly don't back down.
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#737 RedvsBlue

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

...wait, why did you buy the console in the first place if there weren't games you wanted to play for it?

I'm fairly certain the only reason ChrisinCali buys any video game system is so he has something to bitch about. This isn't the first time I've seen him bitching about a new console that he bought. In fact, I'm fairly certain I remember him going on some long diatribe in the past (prior to Wii u launch) about how he's never touching a Nintendo product again.

hey, welcome to buying any system at launch!


Bingo, we're less than 5 months from launch of this thing, people just have no patience these days anymore. They want it right now, they want all the best games for the system at launch. That, and people like to go to the internet to bitch about anything and everything...

#738 Blaster man

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:01 PM

I take it you don't remember beta testers/analysts/etc. telling Microsoft that Windows 8 was a terrible idea. And that the new Office DRM restriction (1 computer) was a terrible idea. Microsoft doesn't listen to anyone, and they most certainly don't back down.


No, I don't really keep up with Windows development and betas. Windows just doesn't excite me. IMO Win 8 is pretty bad, my dad got a laptop with it recently...it was his first computer ever. If they had a start menu on the desktop that would have helped a lot. Looking for control panel is a pain in the ass.

I get your point though, they don't necessarily listen to customer demands and that really is a good point. Only time will tell though.

#739 io

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

No, I don't really keep up with Windows development and betas. Windows just doesn't excite me. IMO Win 8 is pretty bad, my dad got a laptop with it recently...it was his first computer ever. If they had a start menu on the desktop that would have helped a lot. Looking for control panel is a pain in the ass.


Get "Classic Shell" (free) for him - it adds a Start Menu to the desktop and brings up the Desktop on startup (and is fully customizable). Now if I could only get rid of those apps that revert back to the Windows 8-style panels or whatever the hell they are called. There's nothing more annoying than trying to read a PDF file or watch a video and have it suck up the whole screen when I'm trying to multitask. My HD monitor is not a fucking touch-screen tablet you MS bastards ;).

Yeah, I don't like the Wii U menu load times, but, sheesh, that is just for playing games. MS is screwing with my work (and home project) productivity here with my computer!

#740 blitz6speed

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:39 AM

Get "Classic Shell" (free) for him - it adds a Start Menu to the desktop and brings up the Desktop on startup (and is fully customizable). Now if I could only get rid of those apps that revert back to the Windows 8-style panels or whatever the hell they are called. There's nothing more annoying than trying to read a PDF file or watch a video and have it suck up the whole screen when I'm trying to multitask. My HD monitor is not a fucking touch-screen tablet you MS bastards ;).

Yeah, I don't like the Wii U menu load times, but, sheesh, that is just for playing games. MS is screwing with my work (and home project) productivity here with my computer!


I love buying products and then installing third party apps to make them usable. Microsoft is awesome.

#741 rlse9

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:33 PM

To be fair to Microsoft, they know that the desktop market is shrinking and that the tablet market is growing so they had to make a change, as great as Windows 7 is. If they were to be honest, they'd probably say that Windows 8 isn't that good but that they needed to make a change to have a chance for Windows 9 and going forward to still be relevant.

As for the Office DRM thing, they don't want people buying Office anymore, they want people doing the annual subscription so they get money from people every year.

I have no interest in either Windows 8 or Office (personally I think 99% of people would be perfectly fine with one of the free Office clones) but I can see why they did what they did.

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#742 Blaster man

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

I know how much you guys hate Pachter based on earlier comments a few weeks ago. That said, I do think he's right on the money with this one.
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#743 Deader2818

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:30 PM

I really hope Best Buy doesnt go under. Won't get anymore sales on Amazon if they do.

Also, shouldnt this be its own thread? This is pretty off topic.

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#744 SaraAB

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

Everyone can hate on me but I actually like my local BB stores, they provide a product and now they price match so you can get your stuff right away instead of ordering online. Rewards program is good. They also have excellent game sales. I have no complaints except they don't have a BB in my immediate town so I have to drive 30 or more min to get to one.

I pay tax in NYS unless I am buying at Newegg or Ebay who are the only 2 online retailers I know right now that don't charge tax to NYS. Yes I am probably better off buying at Newegg but they don't have everything and if I am buying from Amazon I am probably better off buying at BB because of the rewards program. Amazon does not have a rewards program.

I have gotten every promotion available without question,including the $5 electronics trade in promo they were doing in Jan where I proceeded to trade in 3 junk cell phones that I bought at yard sales for 25 cents each... The phones were happily taken and I was presented with a cool $15 gift card.

Just need to do your research before you buy stuff there, and also do not buy dynex or insignia products...

#745 YBX87

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:50 PM

I really hope Best Buy doesnt go under. Won't get anymore sales on Amazon if they do.

Also, shouldnt this be its own thread? This is pretty off topic.

i wholeheartly agree, if bb goes under. say good bye to the $10-15 games, with the use of gamers club coupon. or their clearance sale on games, as well as other electronic products. video games are not the only thing i buy from bestbuy.

#746 Blaster man

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:05 AM

I really hope Best Buy doesnt go under. Won't get anymore sales on Amazon if they do.

Also, shouldnt this be its own thread? This is pretty off topic.


I didn't really intend on it being a long term discussion...

#747 Deader2818

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:26 AM

I didn't really intend on it being a long term discussion...


Oh ok, so I guess we can now post whatever random topic we want in this thread?

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#748 Blaster man

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:11 AM

Oh ok, so I guess we can now post whatever random topic we want in this thread?


You do anyway so this doesn't change much.

#749 Deader2818

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:15 AM

lol, you are a sad, sad little man.

Nothing ive posted in this thread is off topic.

Posting about Best Buy stock being down, has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread, lol.

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#750 Blaster man

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:13 AM

I've decided to sell my copies of Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story despite getting my Wii fixed. I've also decided to not buy a Wii U regardless of price so I don't care to keep track of sales in hopes of a price drop any longer. Closing this "troll" thread.