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#91 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:55 AM

I dunno, Wind Waker HD, New Zelda, 3D Mario, Fire Emblem RPG, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, new Yoshi Land game. All coming out in the next year or 2. Not really sure how that isnt anything coming out.

Wind Waker - most people beat this YEARS ago. This is not a system seller.
New Zelda - need to see more on this. If it's just like every other Zelda, that's not a system seller. Just a good game to buy after you already own it.
3D Mario - Another Mario? Maybe a system seller for some people. It's got the CoD problem. Too many annualized releases. Nintendo needs to let it's IP's rest and make new stuff.
Fire Emblem - Extremely niche and well at best sell the system for a small number of people.
Pikmin 3 - Niche, same as Fire Emblem.
Mario Kart - Again???? I'm sure that if you already own a Wii U, this is a good one to own.
Smash Bros - Zero interest in that for me. I know others enjoy those but I don't get the appeal.
Yoshi Land game - Need more info. I heard it's going to be "Yarn Yoshi". That's definitely not a system seller for pretty much anyone if that's the case.
8 games over 2 years and most people would be interested in a couple of them at the most. Zero multiplat games will be ported from the PS4/720.

Bring back Earthbound then we'll talk. Maybe start making a deal with Namco to bring Ni No Kuni to Wii U as that seems to be selling really well. Don't keep making zelda number 503, mario number 904204, and Mario Kart 8 (the real number for the upcoming one). It's fine to make sequels but do they really have to make them this frequently?


Here's another one, bolded/underlined the important parts. LOL NO price cuts...at least not until they're announced! Never admit it until you announce!

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TOKYO (AP) — Nintendo President Satoru Iwata promised Thursday the struggling Japanese video-game maker will get back into operating profitability next fiscal year at more than 100 billion yen ($1 billion), while ruling out price cuts for the new Wii U home console to boost sales.
Iwata, speaking at a Tokyo hotel to investors and reporters a day after earnings were released, acknowledged the sales momentum for the Wii U, as well as the 3DS hand-held game machine, had run out of steam during the key year-end shopping season, especially in the U.S.
But he said no price cuts were in the works. Price cuts are common in the gaming industry to woo buyers to products, but the move can backfire by trimming revenue. The Wii U now sells for about $300 in the U.S. and 25,000 yen in Japan.
"We are already offering it at a good price," he said.
But he acknowledged more work was needed to have consumers understand the Wii U, which went on sale globally late last year, as well as producing more game software to draw buyers.
All game machines have suffered in recent years from the advent of smartphones and other mobile devices that have become more sophisticated and offer games and other forms of entertainment.
But he said he was confident of the months ahead and said that Nintendo was preparing more game software, including those developed in-house, toward the end of this year.
Kyoto-based Nintendo, which makes Super Mario and Pokemon games, lowered its full year sales forecast Wednesday to 670 billion yen ($7.4 billion) from 810 billion yen ($8.9 billion).
It also acknowledged it was going to sell fewer Wii U consoles for the fiscal year through March than its previous projection. The Wii U has a touch-screen tablet controller called GamePad and a TV-watching feature called TVii.
The company forecasts it will sell 4 million Wii U consoles for the current fiscal year, ending March 31, down from its earlier estimate of 5.5 million units. The Wii U, which went on sale late last year, was the first major new game console to arrive in stores in years.
Nintendo, also behind the Donkey Kong and Zelda games, lowered its full year sales forecast for Wii U game software units to 16 million from 24 million.
Iwata said last year holiday sales quickly dissipated in the U.S. and some European nations, including Great Britain, the key market. He said the U.S. home console sales were the worst for Nintendo in nearly a decade.
He said Nintendo needs hit games to push console sales, and the company remains confident Wii U will prove more popular with time.
"The chicken-and-game problem has not been solved," he said of the need for both game software and machine hardware.
The company returned to net profit for the April-December period from deep losses the previous year, but that was due to a perk from a weaker yen, which helps Japanese exporters like Nintendo.
Nintendo sank into a loss the previous fiscal year largely because of price cuts for its hand-held 3DS game machine, which shows three-dimensional imagery without special glasses. That machine is also struggling in most global markets.
Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo's iconic game designer, said what was missing were games for the Wii U that made its appeal clear. The progress in smartphones has also posed a challenge for Nintendo, he said.
"People have to try it to see it is fun," Miyamoto said of Wii U.

#92 Deader2818

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:06 AM

Honestly, if you don't really like Nintendo games, you have no business owning a Wii U. I don't know what to tell you.

You don't like it. its clear. Not sure why you have such a hard on for it to fail.

3D mario games are totally different then 2d ones and they don't come out all that often.

#93 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:13 AM

Honestly, if you don't really like Nintendo games, you have no business owning a Wii U. I don't know what to tell you.

You don't like it. its clear. Not sure why you have such a hard on for it to fail.

3D mario games are totally different then 2d ones and they don't come out all that often.

I don't like "Nintendo"? You don't know what you're talking about. I neither like nor dislike "Nintendo". Some of their games on the other hand, I loved playing. I even mentioned Earthbound. What I don't like is the same fucking game every goddamn year. They've been doing the CoD model with Mario longer than I can even remember.

To make matters worse, they won't have any 3rd party support with these sales and even if they did somehow manage to get NEW ports (instead of all old games everyone's already played), they won't last much longer since the Wii U won't be capable of running next gen games. So unless they start to innovate (which is something they seemed to stop doing after then N64), you're going to be stuck (only) playing New Super Mario Bros U 18 in a few years.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:16 AM

So because New Mario 2 for the 3ds was kinda like Mario U, its the same game?

Galaxy 1 and 2 where master pieces and were 3 years apart (07 and 10). The only 3d mario on the Gamecube was Mario Sunshine and that was 2002.

#95 irideabike

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:16 AM

Some people for some stupid reason think others care about their opinion of Nintendo products. Just back back to your other console or pc and play games on there, an let Nintendo fans enjoy their own.

It's kind of sad seeing someone root so hard for something to fail that has no bearing on their life.

And yes, this is spoken from someone who's last nintendo console purchase was a GameCube. And I still play my gameboy color.

#96 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:19 AM

So because New Mario 2 for the 3ds was kinda like Mario U, its the same game?

Galaxy 1 and 2 where master pieces and were 3 years apart (07 and 10). The only 3d mario on the Gamecube was Mario Sunshine and that was 2002.

Take a look at Zelda 1 and Zelda 2. Those are completely different games and Nintendo was willing to innovate, try new things, take risks, and make games that aren't clones. Look at Mario 1 and Mario 2 and Mario 3 and Mario World. Four consecutive Mario games, all completely different and very innovative. Look at Mario 64, Nintendo essentially proved 3d platformers could work and everyone else copied and improved upon that.

Then you ask, are they (the recent Mario games) the same game cause they're very similar? Obviously not the "same" game but it might as well be more levels on the same game when you look at the kind of stuff they used to do with their IP's.

Nintendo has some kind of strange inertia going on because of the way their corporate culture works. It's hard for new blood to get into positions where they can make a difference in game design.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:21 AM

We get it, you don't like Nintendo or Mario. Thats cool.

Sounds like you never even touched Sunshine or either Galaxy if you think they are all the same, lol.

#98 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:24 AM

We get it, you don't like Nintendo or Mario. Thats cool.

Sounds like you never even touched Sunshine or either Galaxy if you think they are all the same, lol.

Played both of them. I absolutely hated Sunshine. I thought that was the worst Gamecube game I had played. Galaxy was good. Didn't bother with 2 since it was the same game. Won't play 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever the next one on Wii U is going to be either.

#99 Deader2818

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:26 AM

Cool. I'm glad you know what you like and don't.

I don't get why you hate them so much that you are rooting on them to fail, lol

You must live a sad life if thats what makes you happy.

#100 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:29 AM

Cool. I'm glad you know what you like and don't.

I don't get why you hate them so much that you are rooting on them to fail, lol

You must live a sad life if thats what makes you happy.

Yes, I must indeed have a sad sad life unlike other people that come to defend Nintendo's uninnovative games. People that do that online must have a great life.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

Some people for some stupid reason think others care about their opinion of Nintendo products. Just back back to your other console or pc and play games on there, an let Nintendo fans enjoy their own.

It's kind of sad seeing someone root so hard for something to fail that has no bearing on their life.

And yes, this is spoken from someone who's last nintendo console purchase was a GameCube. And I still play my gameboy color.

We may disagree on VS. but this is one post I can agree with wholeheartedly. I really have no idea why people put so much effort into absolutely hating a product for no other reason than its mere existence.

Blaster man's continued railing on the Wii U doesn't make him right when they announce lower than expected sales, it just makes him an asshole.

I don't like "Nintendo"? You don't know what you're talking about. I neither like nor dislike "Nintendo".

Anyone that dedicates this much effort and energy into championing a console and company's failure can hardly classify themselves as indifferent.

#102 Deader2818

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:33 AM

I enjoy Nintendo video games and I have fun playing them. So yeah, I enjoy my life.

If I don't like a game I don't. I don't feel the need to go around on forums telling everyone I don't like them and how I wish they would fail.

If you only want to play very innovative games, must suck since the industry as a whole isn't very innovative anymore.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:35 AM

We may disagree on VS. but this is one post I can agree with wholeheartedly. I really have no idea why people put so much effort into absolutely hating a product for no other reason than its mere existence.

Blaster man's continued railing on the Wii U doesn't make him right when they announce lower than expected sales, it just makes him an asshole.

Anyone that dedicates this much effort and energy into championing a console and company's failure can hardly classify themselves as indifferent.


You know when the Wii U does have a price cut a few years down the road like all consoles do, he'll be going around yelling "see I told you it would get a price cut! I was right!!!"

#104 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:37 AM

You know when the Wii U does have a price cut a few years down the road like all consoles do, he'll be going around yelling "see I told you it would get a price cut! I was right!!!"


A "few years" down the road? More like THIS YEAR. That's another OBVIOUS thing that you people can't seem to see. There will be a price cut this year. Possibly as much as 100 off the current prices. I realize it hurts your ego to know that you WASTED $100 buying a console with no games when the same console (with no games) is $100 cheaper less than a year later but it WILL happen. It may only be $50. Either way, I know you're going to come around and talk about how sad of a person I am for being right. Eating crow must be painful for you people to be so upset.

#105 Hemi

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:38 AM

"same game" HA... sounds like somene who loves madden, year after year.

#106 RedvsBlue

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

Eating crow must be painful for you people to be so upset.


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#107 Deader2818

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

Wii U won't get a price cut this year sorry.

Also, I didn't even pay 350 for my Wii U. I paid 200 out of pocket for a Wii U and 4 games.

So nah, not hurting my ego at all since I didn't waste any money lol.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:41 AM

You still havent explained why you have this deep hate for Nintendo and why you want them to so badly fail.

#109 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:43 AM

?

You still havent explained why you have this deep hate for Nintendo and why you want them to so badly fail.

I don't like "Nintendo"? You don't know what you're talking about. I neither like nor dislike "Nintendo". Some of their games on the other hand, I loved playing. I even mentioned Earthbound. What I don't like is the same fucking game every goddamn year. They've been doing the CoD model with Mario longer than I can even remember.

To make matters worse, they won't have any 3rd party support with these sales and even if they did somehow manage to get NEW ports (instead of all old games everyone's already played), they won't last much longer since the Wii U won't be capable of running next gen games. So unless they start to innovate (which is something they seemed to stop doing after then N64), you're going to be stuck (only) playing New Super Mario Bros U 18 in a few years.



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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:46 AM

So them failing will do what exactly? Why are you rooting for it?

Hell, even if they stop making consoles, they will just make all their games for handhelds since they dominate that market.

Until PS4 720 come out, no one really has any clue at all what "next gen" will be or if the Wii U can run it.

What kinda games do you play anyways?

#111 Hemi

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:32 AM

A "few years" down the road? More like THIS YEAR. That's another OBVIOUS thing that you people can't seem to see. There will be a price cut this year. Possibly as much as 100 off the current prices. I realize it hurts your ego to know that you WASTED $100 buying a console with no games when the same console (with no games) is $100 cheaper less than a year later but it WILL happen. It may only be $50. Either way, I know you're going to come around and talk about how sad of a person I am for being right. Eating crow must be painful for you people to be so upset.



Please stay away from the bridge and dont feed the trolls. Wii U doesn't have ONE GIANT thing that's the reason to buy it, it's a sum of MANY.
What games did the 360 or PS3 have for a year after launch??? The Wii U has Zombii U, NSMB U, some ports of other games, PIKMIN 3, MH3:Ultimate, Bayonetta, Wind Waker HD, and later a new SMASH, Mario Kart, and a Mario Game, and the virtual console, FYI also is B/C with the wii games (which isn't true with alot of xbox games and 90% of PS3's. It REALLY annoys me when people have such console hate.
I have a PSone with LCD screen, PS2, Gamecube, XBox, had from gameboy color to DS origional, PSP, have TWO 360's, and NOW bought a Wii U, don't regret a single purchase.
EACH console has it's strength's and it's own games.
$300 was a great deal for me, Im getting a HD, more powerful Wii, the Wii U Tablet, which has the best netflix of the 3 a great internet app (posting this from it right now) and TVii is nice too, and the future Wii U games.
Just because I couldn't justify the ps3 to me because they removed b/c and had small starting HDD, doesnt mean I say it's not worth buying for OTHER people.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:38 AM

lol.... Why are you guys giving Blaster Man shit? He is just trying to prove a point that a lot of people here refused to acknowledge. I for one don't mind at all Nintendo going through this, they need a big kick in the ass. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a troll either, chipmeister takes the cream for that one against Nintendo.

#113 Redeema

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

Out of curiosity will you come back and apologize and eat your crow if it turns out to be successful? One can look at it this way, when the next consoles come out, the cheapest option will be the Wii U and parents could easily make it a huge success later this year. By the way, the same thing happened with the 3DS and I'd say it's pretty successful at this point.

As far as I can tell the next big release is Monster Hunter, I'm pretty sure it's not a system seller, but it will get some people to buy who haven't yet. The other thing you may have to factor in is the economy being where it is now, people may not want to be spending this kind of money on a new console, which could in turn hurt Sony and MS later this year if they decide to release them. I don't see why we have to crown a victor in the first 3 months of their existence. So, the numbers aren't what they hoped? And? As long as I get my games, I'm happy. New Super Mario is good fun for the family. Skylanders Wii U may be the best console version of the game. That's what I got and I'm ok with it. Admittedly, there's not a slew of great games for it right now, but it'll happen just like it does for every other system. Or did we forget that the first six months to a year of the PS3 and Xbox 360 had very few 'system sellers' and AAA titles?

I'll never understand the hate for a system. You getting kickbacks from the other console makers? Can I get on board with that? Do they use PayPal or is it direct deposit into your account? So, what's the motivation? Just because you don't like certain games doesn't mean that it's not going to move the needle for someone else. Smash Bros. is undoubtedly a system seller, as is Mario Kart. All I need at some point is a decent Metroid game or two, Advance Wars or whatever they want to call it, as long as it's tactical and turn-based, a new Zelda, a new Mario, Pokemon, Civilization V, and I'm good. Anything else beyond that is gravy.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

lol.... Why are you guys giving Blaster Man shit? He is just trying to prove a point that a lot of people here refused to acknowledge. I for one don't mind at all Nintendo going through this, they need a big kick in the ass. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a troll either, chipmeister takes the cream for that one against Nintendo.


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#115 Blaster man

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

Out of curiosity will you come back and apologize and eat your crow if it turns out to be successful? One can look at it this way, when the next consoles come out, the cheapest option will be the Wii U and parents could easily make it a huge success later this year. By the way, the same thing happened with the 3DS and I'd say it's pretty successful at this point.

As far as I can tell the next big release is Monster Hunter, I'm pretty sure it's not a system seller, but it will get some people to buy who haven't yet. The other thing you may have to factor in is the economy being where it is now, people may not want to be spending this kind of money on a new console, which could in turn hurt Sony and MS later this year if they decide to release them. I don't see why we have to crown a victor in the first 3 months of their existence. So, the numbers aren't what they hoped? And? As long as I get my games, I'm happy. New Super Mario is good fun for the family. Skylanders Wii U may be the best console version of the game. That's what I got and I'm ok with it. Admittedly, there's not a slew of great games for it right now, but it'll happen just like it does for every other system. Or did we forget that the first six months to a year of the PS3 and Xbox 360 had very few 'system sellers' and AAA titles?

I'll never understand the hate for a system. You getting kickbacks from the other console makers? Can I get on board with that? Do they use PayPal or is it direct deposit into your account? So, what's the motivation? Just because you don't like certain games doesn't mean that it's not going to move the needle for someone else. Smash Bros. is undoubtedly a system seller, as is Mario Kart. All I need at some point is a decent Metroid game or two, Advance Wars or whatever they want to call it, as long as it's tactical and turn-based, a new Zelda, a new Mario, Pokemon, Civilization V, and I'm good. Anything else beyond that is gravy.


I never said its "going to fail", that I "hate Nintendo", or that "I want Nintendo ruined" or any other nonsense you people are reading into this. I think more competition is better. What I'm saying is that I've been posting about Nintendo's Christmas sales for weeks now and I'm shot down constantly. Now I'm vindicated and people are now going after me and making claims that I'm saying things that i have never said. It's easy to attack someone when you make shit up.

As far as Nintendo "failing" or whatever nonsense you're claiming I said, I think sales will be garbage until a price cut. So if sales turn around WITHOUT a price cut then yes, I'll come back and admit I was wrong.

#116 irideabike

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

Blaster man is just mad because Nintendo killed his family

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

I never said its "going to fail", that I "hate Nintendo", or that "I want Nintendo ruined" or any other nonsense you people are reading into this. I think more competition is better. What I'm saying is that I've been posting about Nintendo's Christmas sales for weeks now and I'm shot down constantly. Now I'm vindicated and people are now going after me and making claims that I'm saying things that i have never said. It's easy to attack someone when you make shit up.

As far as Nintendo "failing" or whatever nonsense you're claiming I said, I think sales will be garbage until a price cut. So if sales turn around WITHOUT a price cut then yes, I'll come back and admit I was wrong.


A price cut really wouldn't make things better. They have nothing new to push that price cut with. It'd also set a very bad precedent going forward for them, something they wouldn't be able to sustain.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

I was thinking of getting a Wii-U this year, but I just bought Monster HUnter Portable 3rd HD and don't have any reason for it this year. I may buy one in the future when Smash Bros comes out, but I don't see whats so good about the Wii-U besides the exclusives we've all known and loved. When is the Big N' gonna release a new IP?
The last one I knew about was Battlalion Wars, and I enjoyed it.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

lol.... Why are you guys giving Blaster Man shit? He is just trying to prove a point that a lot of people here refused to acknowledge. I for one don't mind at all Nintendo going through this, they need a big kick in the ass. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a troll either, chipmeister takes the cream for that one against Nintendo.


The problem is that this isn't his only posts on this exact same topic. He's contained himself to this thread this time around but at regular intervals since the Wii U has launched he just goes on these tirades against the Wii U. Frankly, at this point I'm not sure he even knows what the point he's trying to make is. He's even said himself that he'll buy a Wii U at some point so is this vitriol just because he's upset that its priced too much for him right now? Clearly if he plans on buying it there must be some redeeming qualities he finds in it.

I mean, I understand that people think it's priced too high. Anyone can go back and look at ny posts decrying the price when they announced it. I still ended up buying one on launch day though. I'm not sure what people want Nintendo to do at this point, they've already very publicly stated that they are already selling at a slight loss per unit. Any further cut in price will significantly increase that loss. Not only that but having already cut the price on the 3DS it would cause irreparable damage to Nintendo's future console launches.

Like others have eluded to, everyone measures console launches according to the current generations consoles. It's gotta have this and this and this because such and such had it. Where's the patience anymore? I remember these same things being said about the Wii U being said about just about every other console launch. Remember when the PS3 was supposed to put Sony out of business? Well now the PS3 has overtaken 360 in units shipped worldwide which indicates that it is poised to overtake the 360.

Will Wii U eventually get a price cut? Of course it will. So Blaster man is right. There's no way of absolutely predicting when that price drop occurs. Until then Blaster man is just gonna keep spouting his Wii U is dead, Wii U is getting a price cut lines until the day comes when the price cut actually happens and then he can sit back and go see, I told you. Anyone could do the same about the end of the world because we all know the world is not infinite but doing so just makes you one of those crazy people on the street corner.

The point is that one shouldn't measure the troll worthiness of his posts based on whether he will one day be proven right. Instead the fact that he has absolutely flooded the entirety of the boards with his anti-Wii U rants which are specifically constructed to get a rise out of people should be sufficient enough basis for people to call him a troll.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

I know this is not a nice thing to say but from a purely selfish point of view, i kind of do want nintendo to fail. I really want them to stop making hardware and just focus on gaming. What ever system they would put there games on would have my money & i can go back to loving nintendo.
I have owned every nintendo console (including portable) except for the wii u & 3ds. I felt really burned by the wii. the waggle sticks were just an unresponsive mess. I was no longer enjoying games but so focused on trying to learn how to waggle at it that, while i owned a wii since launce, the last games i bought for it were SSB: Brawl & twilight princess. I'm just tired of there gimmiks.
There inovation has ended up crippling them. why did i have to buy controllers then have to buy additional "Motion Plus" gadgets? so they admitted there tracking was garbage & now i have to buy add on items to fix it? thank goodness i didnt early adopt a 3DS or i would have been burned by that price drop. Why do you burn me so nintendo? This must be what it feels like to love someone who is no good for you. sorry nintendo, i have to leave you. If one day you get your act together maybe we can get together again but till then i'll just have the fond memories we shared.