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#3121 snakemaster2389

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:20 AM

I played the Battleblock beta and its cute but all of its focus is almost online. its ok but not worth 1200 for me.
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#3122 dark_inchworm

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:50 AM

I can't comment on quality at all, but i'm wondering if it's going to bomb due to lack of clear marketing of the game. If it has as much of a multiplayer focus as it looks, it's a definite pass for me even though I'm a huge fan of Behemoth's work.


I think smothering the beta testers with a non-disclosure agreement with the game due for release less than a month out is going to come back to kick Behemoth in the ass. They would really benefit from conversation more involved than "I liked it" or "I didn't like it."

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#3123 sicsonic

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:12 AM

The multiplayer in BBT is some of the most fun I've had on my Xbox in years. Couple that in with the ability to create your own levels to share and play online, the replayability is amazing.

And the co-op... man playing this with a buddy is A BLAST.

But whatever, to each their own.

#3124 chicken_soup_2

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:17 AM

yes, but its not under apps. i believe you have to search under the games tab.

unless i'm missing something, i don't see an option to download it anymore, even after clicking the sales&specials icon in the games section

#3125 bardockkun

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:20 AM

unless i'm missing something, i don't see an option to download it anymore, even after clicking the sales&specials icon in the games section

It hasn't been updated in weeks now. I Dare say it's probably dead by now.
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#3126 the Gooseler

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

Anybody play Might and Magic? The demo was fun but is the rest of the game still good? Also would it be better to get the Xbla or NDS version?

#3127 Cornelius

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

I didn't see this mentioned in here but saw it on X360A. There's a Spring Sale happening from March 26 to April 2. The teaser page shows 5 sales items in each category: XBLA, GonD, DLC and movies. I hope Microsoft keeps up these non-DOTW/publisher/event sales to make up for the loss of the S&S+ app.

The HTML is identical to Xbox Marketing's format, the comments within are all American/US English, it uses web-fonts from a Seattle-based typographer, and such a large swath of regions indicates it's more than likely going to be worldwide. That's enough reasons for me to put it in the OP! :)

Oh, and did you also see (within the CSS) that there's a 1-day "April Fools Deal" promotion ... the following badge will replace the "up to 75% off" text on the sign in the upper-left corner:
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That's a good point, unannounced does sound better. But if a game is confirmed by a developer or publisher to get a price drop, I'll probably start listing it under "Announced" rather than "Unannounced".

I'm fine with that as well. Therefore, while adding the *RUMORED* Spring Sale to the OP, I've tweaked the "Markdown" header to include "PSN, dev/pub, etc" under "Announced" ... and "Unannounced" will remain just Xbox.com scrapes.

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#3128 Cleaner7

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:23 AM

^ I did not see the April 1 sale but this makes me happier. Nice find!

Time to stock up on MSP again just in case.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

Tried Giana Sisters demo - a bit meh. It looks really good, but the controls are not that responsive. The game has some really weird problem - when you launch it, you get disconnected from XBL and cannot connect again, unless you get back to dashboard o_O. Load times also are really long for such a game. Pass for now.

#3130 BobbyTastic

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

I didn't have a Kinect when Haunt was free. Anyone think it's worth 320 MSP?


Pretty much what I was gonna say, so I'm gonna bump it. Really shows that if something's ever free, get it in your purchase history regardless, was worth it for Wreckateer.

Anyways, I was going to post my impressions of Scott Pilgrim's DLC the other day (took me 2 play sessions over 2 days to clean up the achievements) but you all pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Speaking of Ubisoft published stuff, this sale, while having some goodies if you haven't bought them already (BG&E HD, Rayman 3, and kinda Outland, HIGHLY recommended), I feel like this was the bare minimum effort and could have been better (including From Dust at 50% off (finally!) and the DLC for M&M and Mad Riders would have been a start).

Not to mention they really shot themselves in the foot for not offering Scott Pilgrim for half-off, been seeing ads for the new add-on all over the Dashboard, why wouldn't you incentivize the purchase?

Lastly, I can't help but be impressed by Cornelius and his deciphering of the page. Well done.

Edit: I take responsibility for the green text in the OP. I noticed a good amount of people in the thread care about achievements (as I do), so I thought maybe we could include a note as to any DLCs (on sale, not price-dropped) that include them for the unaware. This system probably could use some refining, but I figured that was a start.

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#3131 ArmyOfFun

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Outland seemed like it should be a great game but then it never quite "hooked" me when I tried the demo a while back. Maybe I'll give the demo another go cause the game does look like it should be fun.


If the demo doesn't grab you, the full game likely won't. I love Metroidvanias but Outland was just missing something critical that made it less engaging. I wish I could put my finger on the essential but missing ingredient. :-k

... it was fairly slow and boring. I played it for like 2 hours and felt like I was still being taught the game mechanics which drove me crazy ... Try the demo first if u prefer a more action-packed game.


I don't remember a ton of hand holding but it does pick up, certainly in terms of challenge. Although I think it always shows you what to do and where to go which can be a bit annoying. Its pace really isn't atypical for a Metroidvania. If anything it has less backtracking than most.

#3132 tylerh1701

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

Pretty much what I was gonna say, so I'm gonna bump it. Really shows that if something's ever free, get it in your purchase history regardless, was worth it for Wreckateer.


True, but the problem with Haunt was that it was only free through the Kinect Central hub on the dashboard, and that hub is only accessible when you have a Kinect plugged into the 360.

Edit: I take responsibility for the green text in the OP. I noticed a good amount of people in the thread care about achievements (as I do), so I thought maybe we could include a note as to any DLCs (on sale, not price-dropped) that include them for the unaware. This system probably could use some refining, but I figured that was a start.


I appreciate the effort, but I personally don't think it's necessary. I'm a minimalist when it comes to the OP, I think it's important to post all the deals with as little clutter as possible. That's just my 2 cents, I'm sure others probably disagree with me.

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#3133 dark_inchworm

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

I appreciate the effort, but I personally don't think it's necessary. I'm a minimalist when it comes to the OP, I think it's important to post all the deals with as little clutter as possible. That's just my 2 cents, I'm sure others probably disagree with me.


Achievements help me assess whether or not I want to splurge on DLC, especially when my stock of points is low, so I think it's a neat idea personally. It'd probably be better implemented with asterisks and a note tucked away toward the bottom, much in the way Games on Demand MSP purchases are noted.

Speaking of clutter in the OP, I don't think GoW1 being included with Judgment belongs in the thread at all, but what do I know?
EDIT: heh, looks like someone removed it! Fancy that. The OP is kinda sloppy but I just don't have the time to blow on it that I did several weeks/months ago...

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#3134 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

Anybody play Might and Magic? The demo was fun but is the rest of the game still good? Also would it be better to get the Xbla or NDS version?

It's a fantastic game that anybody that enjoys SRPGs and puzzle games should check out. The DS version had a low print run, so I'd suggest just getting the XBLA version for $7.50.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

I played the Battleblock beta and its cute but all of its focus is almost online. its ok but not worth 1200 for me.


Yes, another closed beta tester here and I completely agree with you.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:26 PM

hmm, tempted for Outland, wish it was 75% off:/


Just get it. It's worth every penny. The design and gameplay was epic. It's my favorite XBLA game among the many XBLA gems out there.

#3137 hufferstl

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:26 PM

Outland gets pretty difficult, but it has some very unique gameplay and the animation is incredible. And from what I have experienced, the achievements are difficult.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

I appreciate the effort, but I personally don't think it's necessary. I'm a minimalist when it comes to the OP, I think it's important to post all the deals with as little clutter as possible. That's just my 2 cents, I'm sure others probably disagree with me.


I'll second that. I think you guys have done a good job organizing a lot of information without it getting cluttered. The achievement notes are a little much.

#3139 nCogNeato

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

I'll second that. I think you guys have done a good job organizing a lot of information without it getting cluttered. The achievement notes are a little much.


I do like noting if DLC has achievements or not, since that's usually the first thing I check before buying. Maybe expand on the color-coded key concept for additional notes instead of cluttering up each item line with unnecessary text?

* = Posted Image Want to Buy Games On Demand Using Microsoft Points?
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= Achievements Included
* = Included within retail GOTY version

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You could place the key at the top of the post & remove the redundant text throughout the post. I'd tinker with it myself but I'm not yet brave enough to start editing wiki posts.
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#3140 ooga

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:27 PM

I didn't realize that the AC:Rev DLC had achievements. I've always assumed all the AC dlc just had extra content w/o achievements. Thanks for letting me know.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

I appreciate the effort, but I personally don't think it's necessary. I'm a minimalist when it comes to the OP, I think it's important to post all the deals with as little clutter as possible. That's just my 2 cents, I'm sure others probably disagree with me.

I'll 3'rd that. Sorry :(

There's tons of sites on the web with that kind of info. I come here to spend as little money as possible on my hobby. I'll Google the details if i'm really interested in a title/DLC on sale.

#3142 Cornelius

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:50 PM

I added "Judgment" only because it was a new announcement at the time, and deals on GoW DLC & Games on Demand were still flying around the Marketplace.

I'm in agreement on withholding achievements ... let's do 1 thing & do it well, though I think the layout still serves us well, since we have all sorts of qualifiers to track (gold-only, open to everyone, markdowns, app-specific deals). Some extra white space "may help", or some kind of better section dividers, but at this point, we're already getting fairly creative with the limitations of BBcode. :)

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#3143 simmias

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

I thought the achievement info was a nice touch, personally. *shrug*

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:05 PM

Outland gets pretty difficult, but it has some very unique gameplay and the animation is incredible. And from what I have experienced, the achievements are difficult.


One part was "rage quit" quality difficult for me. After my thousandth try, I quit, then deleted it from my hdd. Few weeks pass and tried again one early morning (insomnia) and was successful. I've never been so mad at a game and enjoyed beating it at the same time. That means something for me.

Wait, does that mean I'd love Dark Souls? Probably.

#3145 bardockkun

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:12 PM

One part was "rage quit" quality difficult for me. After my thousandth try, I quit, then deleted it from my hdd. Few weeks pass and tried again one early morning (insomnia) and was successful. I've never been so mad at a game and enjoyed beating it at the same time. That means something for me.

Wait, does that mean I'd love Dark Souls? Probably.

Are we talking about the dragon boss? That took me like a solid two to three hours to beat. I Think the final boss(es?) took me about an hour. Totally had fun with it though.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:22 PM

^I'd assume one of those 2 parts are exactly what he was talking about. Both are memorable for being very challenging, but it made beating them even more enjoyable.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

I didn't have a Kinect when Haunt was free. Anyone think it's worth 320 MSP?


Pretty much what I was gonna say, so I'm gonna bump it. Really shows that if something's ever free, get it in your purchase history regardless, was worth it for Wreckateer.


Have you guys played the demo? Once I played the demo I immediately picked it up for 400, I think? It went on sale only a week--two weeks?--before it went free on Kinect Central, and I did not regret missing out on saving the points. It has the humor of kids shows from when I was a young (only Phineas & Ferb can compare to the same level of obvious/smart 'wompwomp' style from what little TV of that genre I've seen in recent days, it's hard to describe besides to say "slighly-sarcastic." I need to add I didn't get terribly far into the game before a wave carried it out to the backlog seas, but unless it goes terribly south or incredibly repetitious after the first couple parts, I can't see how it's not worth $3.

I do like noting if DLC has achievements or not, since that's usually the first thing I check before buying. Maybe expand on the color-coded key concept for additional notes instead of cluttering up each item line with unnecessary text?

* = Posted Image Want to Buy Games On Demand Using Microsoft Points?
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= Achievements Included
* = Included within retail GOTY version

... etc.

I had very similar thoughts when it first came up for debate. Where as, there's much to say about a simplified OP, I'm also all-for less needless & repetitious questions throughout the thread (as many know of me already 8-)); transparency ftw. And what's one more colored symbol at the end of a deal title anyway?

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#3148 dark_inchworm

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:39 PM

I'll second that. I think you guys have done a good job organizing a lot of information without it getting cluttered. The achievement notes are a little much.


I don't think a few asterisks * and a one or two-line description buried in the post are any more cluttering than either:
*Price drops from February - nice to know about, but I think most of us prefer to spend our points on temporary bargains
*Sales & Specials info - if the app really is defunct now, this is a HUGE waste of space... time will tell

We could easily leave a note at the top of the first post to direct readers to a key guide in the second post, and this could have the added benefit of not cluttering the first post with the "Want to buy Games on Demand with Microsoft Points?" that sometimes finds itself repeated in three or four different spots in the OP. (Granted, this is more of an annoyance to an editor than it is to the reader, being hidden behind spoiler tags)

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#3149 the Gooseler

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

Here is another vote for achievement info being added, although with an ass trick or color code to keep the clutter down. A good example of it being helpful was when all that Sleeping Dogs stuff was on sale and most of it was just skins. Most of us bought Nightmare because it had achievements.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

* = Posted Image Want to Buy Games On Demand Using Microsoft Points?
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* = Included within retail GOTY version

... etc.


The notes were too much but I like this idea. It would keep the OP cleanish and Sanges99's point about eliminating redundant questions about achievements is a good one.
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