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#1111 BobbyTastic

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 04:54 AM

Everybody who's trying to make a final decision on the Alien Breed games, relax. You don't have to decide tonight. Team17 confirmed on their Twitter page that these are permanent price drops.


Damnit. I bought all the Alien Breed games which I was only lukewarm about since I figured the chances of another sale were rare. Oh well. So we can pretty much confirm all the non-Atari discounts (aside from Amy) are price drops? That's a good sign for the XBLM.

Also, I'm not sure I've ever bought an avatar item on sale before until now, just couldn't resist that jumpsuit you all were talking about since I had an extra 80 MSP in the account.
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#1112 The Ebbtide

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

On a side note, legit perfections on Halo aren't as rare as The Ebbtide is making it out to be.

You're right. I looked on True Achievements (that oxymoronic site), just to see. After going through almost 20 random pages, I finally found one other gamer who seemed to have it legitimately. So I'm wrong. The sad part: the guy had a low achievement score. All the others I checked had really high ones. The guy who seemed to earn it clearly just played his games. The others, just for the number.

I'm not confused by people who 100% a game, it's people that boost and/or play poor games, just to get a high gamerscore or trophy count. There's a new policy being considered over at True Achievements over how to treat people who have cheated in games, from hacking to game saving exploits. It's amazing to see some of the posts where people admit to doing it, but are trying to defend it.

Are people that insecure about a worthless digital number that in no way affects your life that they'd be willing to cheat for it? They're like the Lance Armstrong's of gaming, though he at least received fame and fortune from his cheating in a physical activity. But, when they're caught, they both blame everyone else, using lame excuses to justify it.

If you can't earn it, accept it and play another game. Or get better. Where's the accomplishment in boosting or cheating?

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:07 AM

You're right. I looked on True Achievements (that oxymoronic site), just to see. After going through almost 20 random pages, I finally found one other gamer who seemed to have it legitimately. So I'm wrong. The sad part: the guy had a low achievement score. All the others I checked had really high ones. The guy who seemed to earn it clearly just played his games. The others, just for the number.

I'm not confused by people who 100% a game, it's people that boost and/or play poor games, just to get a high gamerscore or trophy count. There's a new policy being considered over at True Achievements over how to treat people who have cheated in games, from hacking to game saving exploits. It's amazing to see some of the posts where people admit to doing it, but are trying to defend it.

Are people that insecure about a worthless digital number that in no way affects your life that they'd be willing to cheat for it? They're like the Lance Armstrong's of gaming, though he at least received fame and fortune from his cheating in a physical activity. But, when they're caught, they both blame everyone else, using lame excuses to justify it.

If you can't earn it, accept it and play another game. Or get better. Where's the accomplishment in boosting or cheating?


To be fair, Halo is the worst example of a game not to boost. Achievements in Halo 4 aren't too bad, but Reach and 3 were abysmal. Reach needs you to be the last man standing on a Defiant Map Pack map on Zombies. I can't tell you how many days I played in a row just to even get a Defiant map.
Cheating: It's dumb.
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#1114 kayne2000

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:10 AM

Everybody who's trying to make a final decision on the Alien Breed games, relax. You don't have to decide tonight. Team17 confirmed on their Twitter page that these are permanent price drops.


good to know i do admit i am curious to try Amy. yea i hear its bad but it sounds interesting enough.

You're right. I looked on True Achievements (that oxymoronic site), just to see. After going through almost 20 random pages, I finally found one other gamer who seemed to have it legitimately. So I'm wrong. The sad part: the guy had a low achievement score. All the others I checked had really high ones. The guy who seemed to earn it clearly just played his games. The others, just for the number.

I'm not confused by people who 100% a game, it's people that boost and/or play poor games, just to get a high gamerscore or trophy count. There's a new policy being considered over at True Achievements over how to treat people who have cheated in games, from hacking to game saving exploits. It's amazing to see some of the posts where people admit to doing it, but are trying to defend it.

Are people that insecure about a worthless digital number that in no way affects your life that they'd be willing to cheat for it? They're like the Lance Armstrong's of gaming, though he at least received fame and fortune from his cheating in a physical activity. But, when they're caught, they both blame everyone else, using lame excuses to justify it.

If you can't earn it, accept it and play another game. Or get better. Where's the accomplishment in boosting or cheating?


well i think most people that boost to do it are probably trying to 100% the game. and unless all achievements are gotten they have not 100%'d the game. and sometimes all that is left is some insane online ones so its boost or bust.

#1115 Stellar Inertia

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:41 AM

There is also some games that have NOT ONE person online but the game has online achievements. So there is no legitimate means to obtain it other than boost with others who need it as well. Examples of games with no online community but plenty of online achievements: Legendary, Rogue Warrior, Call of Juarez, Timeshift, Condemned, Fracture, etc. I know you dont HAVE to get them. But most games I play for the single player, then I boost the rest if there is no community. I would not mind if developers made single player achievements only, even if they were really hard. I would still prefer that than any online achievements.

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#1116 Timediver

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

Why are you guys arguing over achievements? Sorry, I'm new here :) Anyway, was just wondering when this thread would be updated. I was hoping it would have info on the next set of sales.

My 2 cents regarding achievements: Boosting is fine! Who cares? It hurts no one. I can see where the guy who is against is coming from, though. I really enjoyed Warhammer 40k: Space Marine, and I wanted to show that by getting all of its achievements, but there was one ridiculous weapon mastery achievements that entailed getting dozens of multikills with some the games crappiest weapons -- and I just was not willing to invest the time in that. However, I wouldn't fault anyone who decided to boost for that or anything like it. They're only 'wasting' their own time. If they're happy to do that, I don't see why I or anyone else should give a s***.

I didn't read too far back, so I'm not too sure about the 'cheating' some of you are referring to, though. Save file manipulation/hacking or whatever is a no-no imo.

#1117 dirtyvu

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

I bought Arcadecraft, it was fun. However, it is way too easy, I left arcade cabinets default and had no problem progressing until the end.


can you give some advice on Arcadecraft?

first time through, I miserably failed to pay off the loan.
the second time around, I made it and paid off the loan but it was all downhill after that because the rent was jacked up and my machines were old and not making money because I had to be miserly in order to pay off the loan.

#1118 Blade

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:04 AM

Unrelated to current conversation, but...

Season 3, Episode 9 of The Walking Dead is currently free

Someone posted it in the free thread. I don't get AMC, so I'm pretty excited to see it! :)

#1119 Bloomy

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:07 AM

Why are you guys arguing over achievements? Sorry, I'm new here :) Anyway, was just wondering when this thread would be updated. I was hoping it would have info on the next set of sales.


New sales generally hit around 3am Eastern, and the Dashboard and xbox.com reflect (at least some of) those changes shortly afterward. XBLDB.com, a site that crawls xbox.com for price changes, usually picks up the new sales shorlty after xbox.com is updated and someone posts in the thread. Major Nelson generally posts 2 weeks worth of sales on his blog around 9am Eastern every other Tuesday.

#1120 Timediver

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:22 AM

new sales generally hit around 3am eastern, and the dashboard and xbox.com reflect (at least some of) those changes shortly afterward. Xbldb.com, a site that crawls xbox.com for price changes, usually picks up the new sales shorlty after xbox.com is updated and someone posts in the thread. Major nelson generally posts 2 weeks worth of sales on his blog around 9am eastern every other tuesday.


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#1121 emg28

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:48 AM

Unrelated to current conversation, but...

Season 3, Episode 9 of The Walking Dead is currently free

Someone posted it in the free thread. I don't get AMC, so I'm pretty excited to see it! :)


Thanks. I was only able to watch about half the episode before i had to leave last night.

#1122 Crono-00

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:14 AM

Another eventful week of pricing activity passes, and I only purchased the DLC to Puzzle Quest due to a price dropping. I finally gave up after 2 years and 5 months since I got the base game (old DotW in 2009), waiting on a discount. This price dropping is enough for me to move the game from being "done" back into my backlog, and now proudly back to "done" again (but I may explore the new character classes added with the DLC when I revisit the game). The DLC got me addicted to the game once again, so my purchase has made me happy.

Sure the competing platform got a Namco-Bandai sale, which I have desired content like Ridge Racer 6 DLC, the Enslaved DLC, Soul Calibur 4-5 DLC, Ace Combat: Assault Horizon DLC, and XBLA Galaga Legions DX. I remember about 1 year ago, I bit the bullet and bought XBLA Soul Calibur at full price so everyone here could get a discount on it, so that's overdue. Namco-Bandai still has games like Splatterhouse, Tales series, Dark Souls, the NUNS games, and Armored Core V on the 360, some yet to show on Games on Demand, but content would be well appreciated at lowered prices here as well. At least we got the next best thing: D3 Publisher price drops, Atari going into bankruptcy discounts, and Team 17 price drops.

Major Nelson hasn't revealed this coming week's deals yet, so I am still free to make my awful prediction for bargains. It has been a while since we had a Deal of the Week that was really insulting to the idea of a discount, and I mean REALLY insulting (similar to a couple weeks ago on the Sales & Specials + app with the individual cars for Forza 4). Therefore, my premonition states we will get a Deal of the Week for Gears of War 3 with Raam's Shadow down 33% to 800MSP and Forces of Nature down 50% to 400MSP, but not the other two DLC nor the season pass. That sounds crappy enough to sling produce at the Xbox Live team ^^.



i never win!!!!! Never, never ever. Nunca, jamais, niemals, aldrig!


Yep, this week I was 0 for 6 (missed a day), so that brings my total for winning the scratch and match to 0 of all the shaq-fu-ing times I tried ^^. Well, I hope to know this coming week's prize soon to see if it is worth the tries, because I am sure when the one time I do win, it will probably be something I already have like the House Party grill prop.



First of all, thanks for the heads up on Virtual-On. Love the franchise and I guess I'll have to drop some Bing Reward creds to pick it up through my japanese account.

Secondly, Gamestop has Earth Defense Force 2017 used for $14.99 available to ship from the website if there are none in your area. You're like me and you prefer to buy new, but given its obscurity this may be the only reasonably priced alternative.


I love the Virtual On games (only played the first two) as well, but best to wait past this Wednesday's supposed release date according to the XBLA Release Schedule. Who knows, maybe it will show up on the US marketplace, because I don't think I've seen an XBLA game locked out of other regions before.

As for Gamestop, I try my best to avoid purchases there. I will continue to search for a nice inexpensive new disc, and maybe eventually I'll bite the bullet and purchase at its going rate when I do get around past my backlog (so way into the future when I am hopefully filthy rich).



Where's Strider, Capcom? :cry:


Every time I see Strider, I see a copyright also going to Moto Kikaku. Maybe that group just hates me and refuses to give me awesome Strider action.



LOL wut? ;)


In the new tylerh regime of this thread, nothing gets by. ^^



With a comment like that, you're obviously not an old geezer on Xbox Live, because many of us can still remember the Xbox Live Gold member "Deal of the Week" consisting of only 4-5 avatar items. I'm sure it's somewhere in the archives here at CAG if you want to see how bad we used to have it. :D


I remember a week where it was just 1 Gears avatar part, and another week where it was just a Halo theme. Suffice to say, I felt those were a waste of my Gold subscription, and those weeks didn't count for the discounts essentially making my Gold membership pay for itself. Granted it could be worse, I remember in Japan the Deal of the Week sometimes was just repeated for a whole month, there was a month of The Maw and I think the first Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers. I'm pretty happy with the amount of content getting discounts of late.



Do you miss Panzer Dragoon so much that you're willing to play something horribly mediocre in its stead?

If so, you need to buy this game ;)


You have no idea how much I miss Panzer Dragoon. Even have the US release of Panzer Dragoon Saga, which aside from the part on hovercraft (likely bad on purpose to make me miss having a dragon), was brilliant and wonderfully short. I've mentioned before I pop in the backwards compatible Panzer Dragoon Orta into my 360 every now and then. You tempt me with Yar's Revenge. I missed out when the demo to Crimson Dragon was up on the marketplace, I don't have a Kinect, did the demo allow for usage of a standard controller like Child of Eden?



+ Shining Force III Collection HD.

Hey, a man can dream! :cry:


No! At least Shining Force gets some non-SRPG arcade game. Shenmue and Panzer Dragoon got some (original) Xbox release. I have not seen anything on Dragon Force for much longer (last I know is 2 on the Saturn), and that is more of a dream for Sega to crush instead.



The gamer in me is excited at some of the games in that line-up, good stuff! The cheap-ass in me says HELL NO.


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An improved version of the delisted Yugioh game is coming to XBLA/PSN next week for $10. If you bought the last one, then you get this one free.

http://konami.com/article/KONAMI_ANNOUNCES_YU-GI-OH!_5D'S_DECADE_DUELS_PLUS_FOR/283


You kids and your Yu-Gi-Oh. Back in my day, I remember in games of Yu-Gi-Oh, the player that did not get his/her hand stabbed was the winner. I clearly remember a game the main character won by stabbing someone in the arm. There were a lot more guns, knives, and tasers involved then, how did the game change so much? I'm guessing it was too barbaric for kids to get into knife fights to be marketable. =/



People play games for a variety of reasons: relaxation, challenge, socialization, completion... There is no Game Police to decide who's a gamer and who isn't. As long as people aren't cheating or griefing, we have no reason to belittle how and why they play games.


Pretty much my sentiments. However, I've not mentioned my reason, which I think will make everyone else think "that's a horrible reason to play games." I'll save the elaboration for maybe my next post, on a less active day because my post as usual has gone on too long -_-.




I'll see you on the other side, watching the deals drop. I hope this Wednesday has Cyber Troopers Virtual On available for the US XBLA, opposed to just a Japan only release as reported. The announcement of more Pinball FX 2 tables reminds me that it has been a while since the last set of of tables went on discount, but I've still much to play on that before I need a new tables (I'm currently working on the X-men table, I swear I need more Nightcrawler kickback). My virtual wallet has been stretched thin lately, so I hope the discounts apply to you but not to me this coming week.

This thread sure has been moving with a lot of drama and discussion, imagine the length of my post had I made any statements. I will withhold my comments for the sake of brevity at this time and I did want the drama to die down a bit. Later if I do decide to make any statement on it, I'll keep my comments behind a spoiler tag. Don't worry ooga, I respect your aversion to reading my wall of text posts, so I'll let you in on a little secret: My posts add nothing to this thread ^^.

Edited by Crono-00, 12 February 2013 - 09:54 AM.
Seriously, Yugioh was as I described ... what happened?


#1123 Cleaner7

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:16 AM

People play games for a variety of reasons: relaxation, challenge, socialization, completion... There is no Game Police to decide who's a gamer and who isn't. As long as people aren't cheating or griefing, we have no reason to belittle how and why they play games.



Exactly. Let people play games for whatever reasons they want. Don't judge them if they have more time or money or drive to play or don't play often. It reminds me of when people judge others who only play casual games or only play shooters or 2-3 games. A gamer is a gamer whether they play Halo or Final Fantasy or Farmville or Cooking Mama or any combination of games. I'm a hardcore gamer but I don't discredit or look down on people who play less or play casual. I think the same should be true about a person's gamerscore. Personally, I like achievements because it documents what I do and I get rewarded for doing stuff I normally would do anyways. I also see it as getting that extra value for fully completing a game as best I can.

Thanks for whoever confirmed the Alien Breed games were permanent drops. I'm holding off. I did buy The Undergarden + DLC since it was cheap and I enjoyed it on PSN. I'm still debating on Zeno Clash but will hold off since I think I have it on Steam and the sequel will probably cost $10-15 on XBLA so I'll make an exception in this case for Steam.

#1124 seppuku

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:16 AM

Everybody who's trying to make a final decision on the Alien Breed games, relax. You don't have to decide tonight. Team17 confirmed on their Twitter page that these are permanent price drops.


Sweet! Nice catch! Guess I'll stick with Alien Breed 1 for now and splurge on the other two if/when the fancy strikes me.
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#1125 Blade3D

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:27 AM

can you give some advice on Arcadecraft?

first time through, I miserably failed to pay off the loan.
the second time around, I made it and paid off the loan but it was all downhill after that because the rent was jacked up and my machines were old and not making money because I had to be miserly in order to pay off the loan.


I just bought machines as they became available. When a game got between 1-2 stars I'd turn the difficulty to easy.

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#1126 Matty B

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:12 AM

can you give some advice on Arcadecraft?

first time through, I miserably failed to pay off the loan.
the second time around, I made it and paid off the loan but it was all downhill after that because the rent was jacked up and my machines were old and not making money because I had to be miserly in order to pay off the loan.


The guy at the top of the leaderboards put together a guide with a bunch of helpful tips on Xbox.com

Arcadecraft Help Guide

The game ends at December 1986 - I finished with something like $388,000 during my second playthrough last weekend.

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#1127 xbox_man

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

I think I remember reading somewhere that the Yugioh game would be up at some point this week, but I could be wrong.
I wonder what price points they are going to have for Yugioh cards in the marketplace.

#1128 bardockkun

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:30 AM

Zombie themed sale with...*gasps* no Red Dead: Undead Nightmare?!
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#1129 Sath666

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

Few mediocre games with zombies. Meh.

#1130 Junpei

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:52 AM

Zombie themed sale with...*gasps* no Red Dead: Undead Nightmare?!


Still can't see anything on official sites nor Spylon's, but I guess that rules out ME DLCs sale... well, technically husks could be considered zombies and
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but yeah, I'm stretching things a bit too much... :cry:
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#1131 bardockkun

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

Still can't see anything on official sites nor Spylon's, but I guess that rules out ME DLCs sale... well, technically husks could be considered zombies and

Spoiler
but yeah, I'm stretching things a bit too much... :cry:

It's on the dashboard under the sales & specials tab.
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#1132 ReXXXSoprano

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:57 AM

As far as the Onechanbara DLC goes, if I wanted to get everything should I just buy the full pack data for $10? Would it include the other 2 DLC that are on sale now?


Yep. The Full Data Pack includes every single piece of DLC for the game. So get it if you haven't yet.

#1133 Junpei

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

It's on the dashboard under the sales & specials tab.


Thank you, I wasn't asking for help but just pointing out that the home page wasn't yet updated, as it is the only one I can check while at work... I badly worded my phrase :D
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#1134 sicsonic

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

Zombie Wranglers - 200 pts (50% off)
Zombie Driver - 400 pts (50% off)
Zombie Apocalypse - 400 pts (50% off)
Zombie Apocalypse 2 - 400 pts (50% off)
All Zombies Must Die! - 400 pts (50% off)

Zombie Apocalypse 2- Pure Pwnage DLC - 200 pts (50% off) - ?
Zombie Hat Avatar Prop - 80pts (50% off) - ?
Dead Rising 2-Ninja Skills Pack - 80pts (50% off) - ?
COD: Black Ops- Zombies Pic Pack - 80pts (50% off) - ?

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#1135 eastx

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

Zombie Driver is a fun overhead driving game. It plays sort of like a level-based GTA 1 and 2, with the goal of running over lots of zombies and completing simple missions. It also has a challenging race-against-AI mode. I had a blast getting the full 400 GamerScore from it.

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#1136 benjamouth

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

Zombie Driver is a fun overhead driving game. It plays sort of like a level-based GTA 1 and 2, with the goal of running over lots of zombies and completing simple missions. It also has a challenging race-against-AI mode. I had a blast getting the full 400 GamerScore from it.


Yeah I liked the demo, I'll be picking that up for 400 points.

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#1137 xbox_man

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Zombie Wranglers - 200 pts (50% off)
Zombie Driver - 400 pts (50% off)
Zombie Apocalypse - 400 pts (50% off)
Zombie Apocalypse 2 - 400 pts (50% off)

Zombie Apocalypse 2- Pure Pwnage DLC - 200 pts (50% off) - ?
Zombie Hat Avatar Prop - 80pts (50% off) - ?
Dead Rising 2-Ninja Skills Pack - 80pts (50% off) - ?
COD: Black Ops- Zombies Pic Pack - 80pts (50% off) - ?


All zombies must die is also on sale for 400 msp which is 50% off.

also Tempest is on sale for 240 msp. Maybe as part of another sale or a price drop.

#1138 sicsonic

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

All zombies must die is also on sale for 400 msp which is 50% off.


Ah thanks. I didn't miss it, just forgot to add it.

#1139 midloo

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I didn't notice that the Puzzle Quest DLC was on sale until this morning. Sneaked in under the wire and purchased it. Thanks OP!
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:11 PM

Temptest for 240 MSP (why not exactly 200, like most games that're 400 & go on sale?) sounds like an okay deal. Might wait to see what the S&S+ deals are.
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