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#61 motoki

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:07 AM

Okay somewhat bad news - the price history function is broke at the moment and won't be working again until this weekend. Turns out that there were so many server requests (which were subsequently timing out, because SteamGameSales.com is SLOOOOW) that my hosting company suspended my account without warning.

After battling with them on the phone for an hour last night, they finally agreed to re-instate my hosting if I agreed to remove the offending script. So now, every price history request will return "No Information is available."

I'm at a professional conference until Friday, but I'm hoping that I'll be able to set up something this weekend.


Wow that sucks. Sorry to hear that.

Here's my thoughts on the situation:

Why not just put a link up to that says "Click here to check pricing history on Steamgamesales.com". Since you can basically take any game's url of steampowered.com/app/<APP #>/ and change it to steamgamesales.com/app/<App #> and you have a direct link to the page on that specific game with pricing history.

It's only one more click and you actually get some more detailed info like the graph. To me that's more helpful than knowing something was $2.50 at one point. It doesn't tell me if that was a one off or if it goes that price at lot and thus will be likely to do so again.

Also it solves the whole currency thing because people can just set Steamgamesales.com to whatever their region is.

You can also do it with steamprices.com but there it's slightly trickier. It goes from steampowered.com/app/<APP #>/ and change it to steamprices.com/<region>/app/<App #>, so for the US it would be steamprices.com/us/app/<App #>. You could still do it but it would either default to US or you could maybe set something up in the settings so that people can specify their region.

Anyway, I think the link solves the issue of your plugin pulling in extra data and queries while still giving a convenience feature. It's still a lot easier for me to click a direct link on a page than to go to Steamgamesales.com and deal with their heinously slow search to find the specific game page I want or to manually type in the url.

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#62 jshackles

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Wow that sucks. Sorry to hear that.

Here's my thoughts on the situation:

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I like it - also very easy to implement. I've got this set up this way now, but I'll probably still re-vamp it some this weekend for CURRENT prices. Anyway, thanks for the idea!

#63 oman19

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:03 AM

Glad to have the price information back!!!!!!!!!!!! Great job jshackles I like how it tells you the different sites. Wish you didn't have to click but that is just knit-picking on my part.

#64 KaOTiK

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:56 AM

Been using this off and on since you posted in the Steam thread when you first started it. I like it a lot. I don't know when this started to happen before or after I updated to the newest version. But every time I go into the options the default color is set to black and when I click default it adds the actual default colors for each (own/wishlist) and when I click save to save it and just makes them black again. Any idea what is going on? Thanks again for a great tool too.

EDIT: I removed the extension and installed it again and same thing as well.

#65 jshackles

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

Been using this off and on since you posted in the Steam thread when you first started it. I like it a lot. I don't know when this started to happen before or after I updated to the newest version. But every time I go into the options the default color is set to black and when I click default it adds the actual default colors for each (own/wishlist) and when I click save to save it and just makes them black again. Any idea what is going on? Thanks again for a great tool too.

EDIT: I removed the extension and installed it again and same thing as well.


That's pretty weird. Do you only have it installed on one computer? The settings will sync from one Chrome browser to another, but updating them on the settings page *should* push your most recent settings to the "cloud". Do you have the latest version of Chrome installed?

Also, I have a few small updates for the extension - more are coming soon. Things have been a little crazy for me lately but hopefully that means I'll have a lot more free time coming up. Anyway, the Chrome extension has updated to version 2.2, which really just fixes a few bugs that several users have reported. The new version should be pushing out on Google's servers soon.

For the Firefox users, I've updated the extension to version 1.4 which adds the "Empty Cart" button on the checkout page. You can grab the latest extension here:

http://enhancedsteam...anced-steam.xpi

On a side note, Mozilla is really getting on my nerves. :-# It's been almost 3 weeks, and the extension has yet to be reviewed and certified by them. I can't update the version on their plugin page until this happens, so for now the best place to get the latest features is using the link above. Unfortunately, that won't auto-update.

#66 KaOTiK

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:17 PM

Yeah, I only have it installed on one PC and yes I'm on the most recent version of Chrome. Every time I go to the settings it shows the colors as black and when I hit default they switch to it but then when I click save they turn back to black lol.
Oh well

#67 Detruire

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

While not strictly related to the plugin, I think that it's interesting to note that some of the Sleeping Dogs DLC has a app ID number than during the Christmas sale.

Deep Undercover Pack was 215252, now 202193
Martial Arts Pack was 215250, now 202191
Square Enix Character Pack was 215257, now 216331

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#68 dfg

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:57 AM

Would it be possible for ES to lengthen the search results to greater than 25 items? Even all of them?
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#69 Bort_

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:58 AM

Any news about porting all the Chrome features to the Firefox counterpart?

#70 u.v.bunny

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

I remember reading about a feature that highlights games in your wishlist that you already own, I assume that hasn't been implemented in the firefox version yet?

Thanks for the extension by the way (especially the firefox version!) ;)

#71 Draekon

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:12 PM

I remember reading about a feature that highlights games in your wishlist that you already own, I assume that hasn't been implemented in the firefox version yet?

Thanks for the extension by the way (especially the firefox version!) ;)


Try this:

http://www.enhanceds...anced-steam.xpi

Steam's approval process supposedly takes up to 10 days, but it has been around 15 now with no approval. So until it get approved he can't update the Firefox add-on on the Firefox site.

#72 u.v.bunny

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

Try this:

http://www.enhanceds...anced-steam.xpi

Steam's approval process supposedly takes up to 10 days, but it has been around 15 now with no approval. So until it get approved he can't update the Firefox add-on on the Firefox site.



Hmm, actually I did update to that version (1.4) shortly before my previous post. I take it then that it is supposed to highlight the owned games in my wishlist?

I'll try restarting firefox later and see if that makes any difference.

#73 jshackles

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:00 PM

Would it be possible for ES to lengthen the search results to greater than 25 items? Even all of them?


That's a pretty good idea! I'll check it out and see how feasible of a features it would be. I imagine it would be something like Steamgifts+ endless scrolling feature, where once you scroll to the bottom of the page it kicks off an ajax event to load the next page of results onto the same page.

Any news about porting all the Chrome features to the Firefox counterpart?


Honestly, I haven't had much time lately to dig into the Firefox cross-domain scripting issue. It seems needlessly complicated (as someone who's done it successfully in Chrome) but I could just be missing something. I'm going to try to sit down some time this week and figure it out. Every feature that's missing in the Firefox version is the result of this not working as it should (or me doing something wrong lol)

I remember reading about a feature that highlights games in your wishlist that you already own, I assume that hasn't been implemented in the firefox version yet?

Thanks for the extension by the way (especially the firefox version!) ;)


Yeah sorry that hasn't been put into the Firefox version yet, for the reason mentioned above. Since your wishlist is on steamcommunity.com and it tries to pull data from steampowered.com (to see if you own it) that process fails. Again, I'm looking into it and hope to have it "cracked" soon! ;)

#74 pantsattack

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

Yeah, I only have it installed on one PC and yes I'm on the most recent version of Chrome. Every time I go to the settings it shows the colors as black and when I hit default they switch to it but then when I click save they turn back to black lol.
Oh well


I had the same thing happen to me for a while. I deleted my profile off another computer that I occasionally used and after reinstalling Chrome and ES it worked again.

#75 dfg

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:37 AM

That's a pretty good idea! I'll check it out and see how feasible of a features it would be. I imagine it would be something like Steamgifts+ endless scrolling feature, where once you scroll to the bottom of the page it kicks off an ajax event to load the next page of results onto the same page.


Cool and thanks! Obviously it would be most useful during the big annual sales and large publisher dealies.
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#76 motoki

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

So I noticed that certain games like Rayman Origins are actually using the 3rd Party DRM field to clarify No 3rd Party DRM but Steam Enhanced is still flagging it as DRM.

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#77 jshackles

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:07 AM

So I noticed that certain games like Rayman Origins are actually using the 3rd Party DRM field to clarify No 3rd Party DRM but Steam Enhanced is still flagging it as DRM.


I hadn't noticed this - but it's doing so because there is a keyword search for "3rd party DRM" that brings up a banner. If Steam starts listing this in all of their title pages, I may have to add an extra "Check to see if it says 'No 3rd party DRM' " routine to the code to account for those.

#78 Palinn

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

I can't seem to find an answer to my problem through Google/Steam so before I contact customer service I thought someone here might be able to help.

When using Steam through their browser site I no longer get a message that I own a game when I am on that game page. I'm not sure that this is related to Enhanced Steam as I have accessed my account through IE as well as Chrome with the extension disabled/uninstalled. All of my games still show under my profile and everything worked fine up until about a week ago.

Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?

#79 jshackles

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

I can't seem to find an answer to my problem through Google/Steam so before I contact customer service I thought someone here might be able to help.

When using Steam through their browser site I no longer get a message that I own a game when I am on that game page. I'm not sure that this is related to Enhanced Steam as I have accessed my account through IE as well as Chrome with the extension disabled/uninstalled. All of my games still show under my profile and everything worked fine up until about a week ago.

Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?


There isn't anything in the Enhanced Steam code that would hide this, and since (it sounds like) this is also happening in IE, I can say it's some sort of error on Steam's side of things. Unfortunately, you'll probably have to contact their support to try to resolve the issue.

#80 Palinn

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

There isn't anything in the Enhanced Steam code that would hide this, and since (it sounds like) this is also happening in IE, I can say it's some sort of error on Steam's side of things. Unfortunately, you'll probably have to contact their support to try to resolve the issue.



Thanks for the response. I thought you might have a suggestion or two since you have become more familiar with their website workings while you developed your extension.

Of course I would have this problem during a time when your extension highlighting would be a huge help! :bomb:

#81 motoki

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

So I found another example of a game getting tagged with DRM that shouldn't have:

http://store.steampo...d.com/sub/8281/

Steam put up some really generic 'One or more products may use a key based DRM check' yadda yadda but to my knowledge this game nor the expansion does not have any extra DRM.

The developer is very anti DRM.

http://www.arcengame...php/arcen-store

NO DRM

We've been asked if our games contain any significant DRM, and the answer is, emphatically, no. Each game has a simple license key (which turns the trial version into the full version), but that's it. No need to contact our servers during install, no hidden drivers, no encryption, or install limits.

We want to make it easy on our customers, and we've never really felt like DRM works, anyway. If you like our games, please buy them so that we can make more, but we're not about to start treating our real customers like thieves just to thwart the inevitable pirates.


The simple one time license key check to unlock the trial version he is talking about is if you get the game from his site. It's been a while since I got this game on Steam but I'm pretty sure that doesn't even apply there and you just download it from Steam with no key checks or anything like that and are good.

On a completely different note, I too am finding Steam is suddenly being flakey for me about not wanting to show that I own certain games that I own (like AI War) on the game page. I don't have the energy to deal with Steam's utterly inept support after recently dealing with them on an unrelated issue, which they were completely clueless and useless about, so I'll just wait and hope someone in their tech area notices and fixes it.

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#82 jshackles

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

So I found another example of a game getting tagged with DRM that shouldn't have:

http://store.steampo...d.com/sub/8281/

Steam put up some really generic 'One or more products may use a key based DRM check' yadda yadda but to my knowledge this game nor the expansion does not have any extra DRM.

The developer is very anti DRM.

http://www.arcengame...php/arcen-store


The simple one time license key check to unlock the trial version he is talking about is if you get the game from his site. It's been a while since I got this game on Steam but I'm pretty sure that doesn't even apply there and you just download it from Steam with no key checks or anything like that and are good.

On a completely different note, I too am finding Steam is suddenly being flakey for me about not wanting to show that I own certain games that I own (like AI War) on the game page. I don't have the energy to deal with Steam's utterly inept support after recently dealing with them on an unrelated issue, which they were completely clueless and useless about, so I'll just wait and hope someone in their tech area notices and fixes it.



I looks like that flag is there because of this piece of DLC: http://store.steampo....com/app/40406/ (listed as "In-Game License Key Check")

If there really is no DRM, and the developer feels strongly against it, they should contact Valve to have that removed from their product page. By default, any pack that contains a game that has DRM listed in their product page will also get flagged.

I agree about Steam support being completely clueless and useless. Some of that probably stems from the fact that there really isn't a "support department" at Valve. Or any departments at all, really.

#83 jshackles

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

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So Mozilla has done a preliminary review of Enhanced Steam (finally) so it is now available directly at https://addons.mozil...enhanced-steam/

The best part is, it should now update (automatically to 1.4) and continue to stay updated as changes are made. It will also show up in the search results on their site.

ADDITIONALLY: Enhanced Steam for Google Chrome is now the #1 extension for Steam on the Chrome Web Store. It has almost 2,000 active users, an average 5 star rating, 20 "+1"s, and great reviews.

THANK YOU ALL for your support!

#84 Anthony_NL

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

The empty cart button works as long i click on cart again and then empty cart, if i add games and click add to cart to a game on the right side of checkout page it only remove the first game from cart.

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#85 motoki

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

I looks like that flag is there because of this piece of DLC: http://store.steampo....com/app/40406/ (listed as "In-Game License Key Check")

If there really is no DRM, and the developer feels strongly against it, they should contact Valve to have that removed from their product page. By default, any pack that contains a game that has DRM listed in their product page will also get flagged.

I agree about Steam support being completely clueless and useless. Some of that probably stems from the fact that there really isn't a "support department" at Valve. Or any departments at all, really.


The whole thing with the DRM listed/not listed on the Steam pages is a bit of a mess. There's ones like that AI War listing that flag it when it shouldn't, there's games that patched out the DRM but the page didn't get updated, and then there's also a bunch that have DRM but it isn't listed at all. Spectomancer, several Focus titles etc.

While I agree it really is up to the developer and Valve to make sure the proper, current and accurate information is getting posted, it isn't getting done in some cases so that leaves it up to the buyer to have to research this info.

There's nothing that your plugin can really do about that either short of maintaining your own database because it can only go by what info the Steam page is giving.

That's why a lot of people rely on that Flibitijibibo database because it's maintained and regularly updated and just generally has more accurate info what is on the store pages.

Steam's support is completely useless. They are very obviously outsourced and very obviously not technically knowledgeable at all. That would be fine if they would at least pass on any issues to Valve, but they won't. They seem to have a real reluctance to do that and it's frustrating because you get this feeling that Valve is in some ivory tower somewhere and no one can communicate with them because you have any army of outsourced idiots that won't pass any messages along at all.

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#86 Cheaplikeafox OS X

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

Just a heads up Jshackles, Steam just shut down the CAG Steam group and all groups related to posting deals. My guess it's because they are afraid of competition and don't want people actively posting better prices at places outside of Steam.

Wonder if you should consider altering the section where people can go find the best price for a given game. Doesn't sound like something Steam wants and may not like if you want them to consider you for employment.

#87 jshackles

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Just a heads up Jshackles, Steam just shut down the CAG Steam group and all groups related to posting deals. My guess it's because they are afraid of competition and don't want people actively posting better prices at places outside of Steam.

Wonder if you should consider altering the section where people can go find the best price for a given game. Doesn't sound like something Steam wants and may not like if you want them to consider you for employment.


Thanks for the heads up. I've been thinking about shutting this feature down anyway, since there really isn't a good way to implement this effectively for everyone. That is, short of spending a LOT of time / man hours on it.

Sucks about the CAG group.

Also, the Firefox version of the extension got featured on ghacks.net (here) :)

#88 bblnrlz

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

Just a heads up Jshackles, Steam just shut down the CAG Steam group and all groups related to posting deals. My guess it's because they are afraid of competition and don't want people actively posting better prices at places outside of Steam.

Wonder if you should consider altering the section where people can go find the best price for a given game. Doesn't sound like something Steam wants and may not like if you want them to consider you for employment.


related:
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Hello Sammy,

I apologize for the confusion, but the investigation has been conculded.

The lock on the group is not going to be removed because advertising and sales groups are not permitted on steam.

This is covered in the SSA and the Rules of conduct.
Steam Subscriber Agreement

http://store.steampo...iber_agreement/
Rules of Steam Online Conduct

http://store.steampo...online_conduct/



#89 motoki

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

There may be more to this story than some outsourced support peeon knows about. Once the Steamgifts giveaways were done using the CAG group a ton of random people flooded into that CAG group hoping to get free stuff. I haven't checked it in ages but who knows what sorts of stuff they were talking about.

I do know for a fact that some of those groups that were shut down like Hookups were actively promoting some scheisty Russian key deals.

At any rate it's probably best to do the non-Steam based deal talk outside of Steam from now on. I will miss the one click link to the steamgamesales price history if it goes away :-P but it's easy enough for me to just go up to the url bar and change the steampowered.com to steamgamesales.com I suppose.

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#90 oman19

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I've been thinking about shutting this feature down anyway, since there really isn't a good way to implement this effectively for everyone. That is, short of spending a LOT of time / man hours on it.

Sucks about the CAG group.

Also, the Firefox version of the extension got featured on ghacks.net (here) :)


Ugh that's my favorite feature! Just makes it so convenient. But I understand you have to do what you have to do.