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#1 ShockandAww

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:11 AM

Wondering what everyone thinks about the future of PS4. The announcement is just a couple days away and I want to hear what specifically you think/hope is going to be announced and what you think about a year or two from now. Where is the PS4 going?

Here are my predictions:

Price: $400
Release: October
Looks: Extremely sexy
Will allow used games but have passes basically like now (Sony realizes the digital future so sees no immediate reason to block disc based games)
Will not be always online
Say hello to many more Xbox like Ads
The Last Guardian will release this year
In a few years 2/3 of sales will be digital

And I think the biggest thing for the future will be Gaikai aka Netflix for games. This is the inevitable future imo. Whether Sony can pull it off or not at this time remains to be seen. I think they'll make a good effort but it may be 5 years or so ahead of it's time. For those with fantastic internet it should be pretty amazing. PS+ being integrated with this could very well stomp the competitions services.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

Wondering what everyone thinks about the future of PS4. The announcement is just a couple days away and I want to hear what specifically you think/hope is going to be announced and what you think about a year or two from now. Where is the PS4 going?

Here are my predictions:

Price: $400
Release: October
Looks: Extremely sexy
Will allow used games but have passes basically like now (Sony realizes the digital future so sees no immediate reason to block disc based games)
Will not be always online
Say hello to many more Xbox like Ads
The Last Guardian will release this year
In a few years 2/3 of sales will be digital

And I think the biggest thing for the future will be Gaikai aka Netflix for games. This is the inevitable future imo. Whether Sony can pull it off or not at this time remains to be seen. I think they'll make a good effort but it may be 5 years or so ahead of it's time. For those with fantastic internet it should be pretty amazing. PS+ being integrated with this could very well stomp the competitions services.


Pretty much this but I still believe digital sales will not get any better unless they actually have huge price drops/sales on retail games. Why spend $60 on a retail game when I can spend that same $60, beat it and get 20-30 back.

The Gaikai service sounds great but America doesn't have the internet to support it. Sure in cities, yes, but in rural America they are not up to the level yet.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

Pretty much this but I still believe digital sales will not get any better unless they actually have huge price drops/sales on retail games. Why spend $60 on a retail game when I can spend that same $60, beat it and get 20-30 back.

The Gaikai service sounds great but America doesn't have the internet to support it. Sure in cities, yes, but in rural America they are not up to the level yet.


yup. digitial only sales on full retail games wont go anywhere when their prices are completely unreasonable. theres games on psn right now that i could go buy cheaper used at gamestop. that should never be the case.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

Pretty much this but I still believe digital sales will not get any better unless they actually have huge price drops/sales on retail games. Why spend $60 on a retail game when I can spend that same $60, beat it and get 20-30 back.

The Gaikai service sounds great but America doesn't have the internet to support it. Sure in cities, yes, but in rural America they are not up to the level yet.


If companies want digital to work, they need to lower the prices considerably. We're talking $40 for new releases. The only problem with that is retailers (GameStop) will bitch and complain that they are being undercut too much and will threaten to stop carrying their games.

Personally, I say lower new game prices to $49.99 for the next gen. The new tools and engines coming out/already out for "next-gen" are far more sophisticated than what the PS3 and 360 originally have. UE4 is touting itself as a 1-man team, in that, an artist can supposedly make a game similar to Angry Birds by himself in roughly 6 months with no coding knowledge...so I don't honestly expect dev costs to go up unless the companies WANT them to go up for whatever selfish/egotistical reasons they have.

That said, I like what Sony is doing with PS+ and discounts on new games. $53.99 is still too steep for my liking, but if new games at retail were $49.99, I may consider picking up the digital version for only $39.99 (?)

As far as predictions, what was said above + the PS MOVE (2.0?) and Eyetoy (3.0?) will be bundled, which is good. If Sony is going to push this tech/feature, they NEED to include it with every PS4 if they want developers to even consider it.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

I think Sony will introduce a mandatory "xbox live" type of fee to connect to the interwebs.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

Can I ask why everyone is thinking Last Guardian will be a launch title? That series of games is extremely niche and won't move consoles.

PS3 should be launching with Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 6, Metal Gear Solid 5 or some kind of exclusivity deal with GTA V or Call of Duty (both highly unlikely). Something that moves millions.

Personally I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank but I'm not holding my breath.

What would really knock it out of the park would be a joint venture between Sony and Microsoft. The "Playstation X" (as I've named it) would double their install base and lower production costs. The only problem I would have with this is paying for Live.

I just hope this thing has "classic" attachments (if necessary) to play PS2 and PS3 games.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

Can I ask why everyone is thinking Last Guardian will be a launch title? That series of games is extremely niche and won't move consoles.

PS3 should be launching with Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 6, Metal Gear Solid 5 or some kind of exclusivity deal with GTA V or Call of Duty (both highly unlikely). Something that moves millions.

Personally I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank but I'm not holding my breath.

I just hope this thing has "classic" attachments (if necessary) to play PS2 and PS3 games.

Yeah PS4 needs an exclusive deal to make people want it. Well for US and Europe. It pretty much dominates Japan compared to 360.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:56 PM

Can I ask why everyone is thinking Last Guardian will be a launch title? That series of games is extremely niche and won't move consoles.


It just seems for as long as that game has been in development, and their urgency to get it finished, that PS4 would be the best time to finally release it. And it may be niche, but it's also a game that some people have been excited for (as a Shadow of the Colossus successor) since it's initial announcement, and could possibly move consoles for those people. Still think it'll be out on PS3, but having it on launch day for the PS4 would be one hell of a note to start out with for that system.


PS4 should be launching with Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 6, Metal Gear Solid 5 or some kind of exclusivity deal with GTA V or Call of Duty (both highly unlikely). Something that moves millions.

Personally I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank but I'm not holding my breath.


Well, the two MGS games aren't out yet so it's possible those could be there on launch day, and I think the same could be of Watch Dogs. I think the guys behind Killzone, Resistance, and Infamous haven't been announced doing anything, so possibly some games from them. I'm eager to see what Sony has planned for launch period, especially if they have seen the frustration from the 3DS, PSVita, and Wii U launch lineup.

I just hope this thing has "classic" attachments (if necessary) to play PS2 and PS3 games.


If PS+ will have a Gaikai like service with it with a library of PS1/2/3 games to choose from, then that has me Day 1 for sure.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

Yeah PS4 needs an exclusive deal to make people want it. Well for US and Europe. It pretty much dominates Japan compared to 360.


I'm interested in seeing what happens since Japan won't be as helpful to Sony this time around. Console gaming is in greater decline there.

It just seems for as long as that game has been in development, and their urgency to get it finished, that PS4 would be the best time to finally release it. And it may be niche, but it's also a game that some people have been excited for (as a Shadow of the Colossus successor) since it's initial announcement, and could possibly move consoles for those people. Still think it'll be out on PS3, but having it on launch day for the PS4 would be one hell of a note to start out with for that system.


Honestly I think it's going to flop. That's why I'm so confused by all the interest. I don't even think it's going to make the launch of PS4.

Well, the two MGS games aren't out yet so it's possible those could be there on launch day, and I think the same could be of Watch Dogs. I think the guys behind Killzone, Resistance, and Infamous haven't been announced doing anything, so possibly some games from them. I'm eager to see what Sony has planned for launch period, especially if they have seen the frustration from the 3DS, PSVita, and Wii U launch lineup.


I wonder if Groudn Zeroes will even sell that well. Like I said the launch needs something big. Uncharted 4 and Gran Turismo 6 would be mandatory if I was in charge. I am not even a fan of those games, but their sales impact cannot be denied.


If PS+ will have a Gaikai like service with it with a library of PS1/2/3 games to choose from, then that has me Day 1 for sure.


I'm concerned with lag on something like this. I'd prefer a downloaded copy like the PS2 classics to streaming. If it's lag-free and subscription based I might bite though.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:25 PM

killzone 4 and uncharted 4 will almost indefinitely be in the launch window.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

Can I ask why everyone is thinking Last Guardian will be a launch title? That series of games is extremely niche and won't move consoles.

PS3 should be launching with Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 6, Metal Gear Solid 5 or some kind of exclusivity deal with GTA V or Call of Duty (both highly unlikely). Something that moves millions.

I just hope this thing has "classic" attachments (if necessary) to play PS2 and PS3 games.


The rumor for TLG started because Fumito Ueda (former Team Ico head) tweeted a few days ago about the game saying how Sony would have to be the ones to announce anything on it and to keep an eye out for their announcement. Later on the same day some Sony President/CEO/High Up guy retweeted what Fumito had tweeted. So with the timing of it, it seems like we may be seeing some of it on the 20th, and by extension to me that says it could be a launch/launch window title.

It was also said by someone in the know that the game has been in development for the PS4 for the last 2 years.

So with that I'm guessing they should have it ready at or near launch.

Now having said that, I realize that it is a niche type of game and most people don't care about it. It will most likely not be a system mover. For me personally however it (hopefully) will be a system seller. As for other games that will move some systems, yes I hope to see the next Infamous or Sucker Punch title, Killzone (which I personally dont care about), Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, and maybe even a teaser for the next Uncharted.

Honestly I hope they also show a brand new ip or a big surprise like that but who knows what's going to happen.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:28 PM

I think Sony will introduce a mandatory "xbox live" type of fee to connect to the interwebs.


Not a chance. Free online gaming is literally one of the biggest selling points of the PS3.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

The rumor for TLG started because Fumito Ueda (former Team Ico head) tweeted a few days ago about the game saying how Sony would have to be the ones to announce anything on it and to keep an eye out for their announcement. Later on the same day some Sony President/CEO/High Up guy retweeted what Fumito had tweeted. So with the timing of it, it seems like we may be seeing some of it on the 20th, and by extension to me that says it could be a launch/launch window title.

It was also said by someone in the know that the game has been in development for the PS4 for the last 2 years.

So with that I'm guessing they should have it ready at or near launch.

Now having said that, I realize that it is a niche type of game and most people don't care about it. It will most likely not be a system mover. For me personally however it (hopefully) will be a system seller. As for other games that will move some systems, yes I hope to see the next Infamous or Sucker Punch title, Killzone (which I personally dont care about), Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, and maybe even a teaser for the next Uncharted.

Honestly I hope they also show a brand new ip or a big surprise like that but who knows what's going to happen.


I would love some new IP's, but at the same time, it's easier to sell systems with an established franchise. But even if they do come out with another sequel to PS3 games, I hope there's more focus on newer IP's with Sony devs. Loved the games this gen, but I want some of these teams to expand and do something different.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

They need to bring back Onimusha.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

They need to bring back Onimusha.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

$400 - no way, I say two sku's : $499 and $599.

Wondering what everyone thinks about the future of PS4. The announcement is just a couple days away and I want to hear what specifically you think/hope is going to be announced and what you think about a year or two from now. Where is the PS4 going?

Here are my predictions:

Price: $400
Release: October
Looks: Extremely sexy
Will allow used games but have passes basically like now (Sony realizes the digital future so sees no immediate reason to block disc based games)
Will not be always online
Say hello to many more Xbox like Ads
The Last Guardian will release this year
In a few years 2/3 of sales will be digital

And I think the biggest thing for the future will be Gaikai aka Netflix for games. This is the inevitable future imo. Whether Sony can pull it off or not at this time remains to be seen. I think they'll make a good effort but it may be 5 years or so ahead of it's time. For those with fantastic internet it should be pretty amazing. PS+ being integrated with this could very well stomp the competitions services.




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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:31 PM

I would be surprised if the PS4 launches at only $400.

My gut tells me $450.

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#19 SynGamer

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

I would be surprised if the PS4 launches at only $400.

My gut tells me $450.


I thought $400 at first as well, but if Sony bundles the Move/Eye I can see them upping the price to $449.99, which I'm fine with. I really need to see what sort of improvements/advances they have made before committing to buying. Personally, they MUST have a faster blu-ray drive, at least 8x, preferably 12x. Some of my blu-rays take forever to load...

Then there's the games and services/features. Sony is going to need some killer features and exclusives if they want to persuade people to upgrade from their PS3's (and 360's), especially at $450.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

$400 - no way, I say two sku's : $499 and $599.


I would be surprised if the PS4 launches at only $400.

My gut tells me $450.


$599 won't happen since they did that last time and got way too much shit for it. Remember last time Blu Ray was new and it was the cheapest Blu Ray player available at the time. They don't have anything like that this time.

$500 probably also won't happen imo but is realistic if they're including move and such. $450 sure I almost guessed that instead actually but looking at what's rumored I think they'll go with $400. It will please pretty much everyone and I'm guessing it would still be profitable pretty quickly.

Personally, they MUST have a faster blu-ray drive, at least 8x, preferably 12x. Some of my blu-rays take forever to load...


If I remember right rumor was 6x

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM

If I remember right rumor was 6x


I haven't seen that rumor but if it holds true I guess that's an OK improvement. That's 27 MBps. So to fill 1GB of memory, we're looking at 38 seconds minimum. I have no doubt that we'll see A LOT of streaming from the disc with the new generation of consoles. I'm still hoping for 8x (and REALLY hoping for a 12x). Even at 8x that would be 36 MBps which means 1GB of memory would take roughly 28 seconds which is a sizable drop.

Now, should Sony miraculously put a 12x blu-ray drive in the PS4, we're looking at 54 MBps, which means 1GB of memory would only take 19 seconds to fill... (food for thought)

I'm sure some people are rolling their eyes, but I'm sure we ALL remember how much of an inconvenience the mandatory installs were. With a proper blu-ray drive, developers can actually rely on the streaming speed versus loading the games on our HDDs. Plus, we're looking at SUPER QUICK load times for your average game. If developers only need to load a 200-300 MB to get the level started, that's 5-6 second load times, and then the rest of the level can load in the background if/when necessary.

EDIT: one thing I forgot to mention previously was PS Vita integration. if Nintendo did one thing right with the Wii U it was the ability to let other people use the TV and continue your game on the gamepad. If Sony can integrate something similar between the PS4 and Vita, I'm instantly sold. Essentially Remote Play that actually works properly. I believe the current issue is the PS3 doesn't have enough memory to stream the game to the Vita without the developers purposely downgrading the PS3 game slightly to not eat up as much memory...which really not many devs are doing as we can see. That shouldn't be a problem for the PS4.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:14 AM

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#23 ShockandAww

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

The Vita could be awesome if they can use it + Gaikai. It'd be great for Vita since currently the streaming for games is pretty much limited to 720p (as far as I'm aware). With Vitas small screen you wouldn't have to worry about that. The only issue would be getting the bandwidth you need for streaming. Enough bandwidth and you can run PS3 games on your Vita. There's rumors of a 4G Vita and I'm hoping this is the reason. I don't think you'll ever be playing something competitive like CoD or whatever on your Vita but for single player games at least it'll hopefully work.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

EDIT: one thing I forgot to mention previously was PS Vita integration. if Nintendo did one thing right with the Wii U it was the ability to let other people use the TV and continue your game on the gamepad. If Sony can integrate something similar between the PS4 and Vita, I'm instantly sold. Essentially Remote Play that actually works properly. I believe the current issue is the PS3 doesn't have enough memory to stream the game to the Vita without the developers purposely downgrading the PS3 game slightly to not eat up as much memory...which really not many devs are doing as we can see. That shouldn't be a problem for the PS4.


I agree. One of the reasons I sold my Vita was because the remote play feature did not feel fluid for me. If Sony can merge the PS4 and Vita together for a seamless experience (pick up Vita and instantly have access to PS4 menu via "PS4 mode") it would be a great selling point in my opinion. If they the PS4 can offer the type of interface the Wii U is offering and offer a much more powerful system than the Wii U it would really get my interest.

The funny thing with the Wii U is that I use it more for web browsing and checking Miiverse than for Wii U games just because of how convenient it is to use the Gamepad. I use it almost daily for web browsing while eating breakfast. Hopefully Sony developes similar technology with the Vita and PS4. :D

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:28 AM

Wondering what everyone thinks about the future of PS4. The announcement is just a couple days away and I want to hear what specifically you think/hope is going to be announced and what you think about a year or two from now. Where is the PS4 going?

Here are my predictions:

Price: $400
Release: October
Looks: Extremely sexy
Will allow used games but have passes basically like now (Sony realizes the digital future so sees no immediate reason to block disc based games)
Will not be always online
Say hello to many more Xbox like Ads
The Last Guardian will release this year
In a few years 2/3 of sales will be digital

And I think the biggest thing for the future will be Gaikai aka Netflix for games. This is the inevitable future imo. Whether Sony can pull it off or not at this time remains to be seen. I think they'll make a good effort but it may be 5 years or so ahead of it's time. For those with fantastic internet it should be pretty amazing. PS+ being integrated with this could very well stomp the competitions services.


my prediction is that the main conf will be for ps vita price drop and possible ps3 price drop and they will show a sneak peak video about a ps next gen system announcment at e3.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:32 AM

I think Sony will introduce a mandatory "xbox live" type of fee to connect to the interwebs.


something tells me that might happen also. Sony used ps plus to test the market and from the sound of it they are very pleased how well it went. If you do have to pay for online play and still get the great things in current ps plus i would be all over ps4 from the start.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:20 AM

my prediction is that the main conf will be for ps vita price drop and possible ps3 price drop and they will show a sneak peak video about a ps next gen system announcment at e3.


With all the rumors there is no way.... it will be focused on the ps4... just saying :lol:
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:23 AM

If xbox really goes through with no used games you can say hello to a new playstation 4 owner.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

If xbox really goes through with no used games you can say hello to a new playstation 4 owner.


As much as I dislike the Xbox360, Microsoft wouldn't be stupid enough to go through with that. I'm sure that in the end everything will work out. I'm not worried about it :) It would be such a bad PR move on their part
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:50 AM

my prediction is that the main conf will be for ps vita price drop and possible ps3 price drop and they will show a sneak peak video about a ps next gen system announcment at e3.

There's a 0% chance of that in reality. You don't hype something like this to announce price cuts.

They better announce something big for the Vita though if they're expecting to save it at all. A $50 price cut isn't going to do it at this point. Too little too late.