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CAGcast #315: PS4 and So Much More!


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#61 trip1eX

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

I think the newest Bond movies are too much like any other action movie. They lost their charm.

#62 butaneko

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Man I used to be a CAGcast diehard but my enjoyment of the show lately is limited.

I used to be a Wombat defender but he really grates on me lately. He's so self-obsessed you can almost hear him singing the meow mix song to fill the time before everyone else shuts up and he can talk again. It's laughable how he falls over himself to tell you how me met some developer or saw a demo at some event... you're playing what? Oh I know that game .. me me me me ME! Maybe I didn't notice or wasn't bothered by Wombat before since he was kind of a secondary voice on the show but since he started his own podcast he's switched over to host Wombat mode and has more or less commandeered the CAGcast. I guess this is the ambitious, bringing his A-game Wombat. I think I prefer the beaten down, satisfied with feeding on scraps Wombat.

Cheapy is fine. His passion for gaming seems a bit lukewarm lately. Does he only play driving and indie PC games now?

Shipwreck actually plays games so that gives him 1,000 bonus points over his co-hosts. On the other hand he seems a lot more cynical than before which has bothered me lately.

Well, just one man's opinion! I wanted to get that off my chest for some reason. Been listening to the show for 5 years or so.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

Shipwreck said that the Dualshock 4's lightbar thing was what the 360 controller has now... no, it's not. The 360 controller's lights indicate what player you are, yes - but the Dualshock 3 already has this indication as well. There's 4 lights on the top of the controller (near L1) that indicate what player you are. This lightbar thing is something totally different. I think what Sony means is that the color will change based on what literal color your in-game character is or something. I don't know - it sounds unnecessary. I'm not defending the feature, I'm just saying that it's something the 360 does not have currently.


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I believe you are correct on both points. :applause: Yes, the original sixaxis--like the 360 light wheel--had a light corresponding to which player 1 through 4 you are in game. And, yes, this will carry over to the 'move lightbar' insomuch (for example if you're playing Madden) that the circle under the player you're playing as in game will be the same color as the move lightbar color glowing on the dualshock controller you're using so that it is easier to tell who is who ingame.
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#64 Dani8l

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

What do you think Xbox has to do to one up Playstation?

#65 trip1eX

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

Eventually the Wii U games pile up and the price drops and voila, the system is attractive.

Right now, in addition to what Ship said, a lot of people think the Wii U is just a Wii bundle like a Wii with a uDraw packaged in or something.

Yes it isn't going to be a western AAA console. But it isn't going to die out like a Dreamcast either. Nintendo isn't losing a ton of money on the thing so they wont be forced to abandon it anytime soon. One game sold per Wii U and they make money according to Reggie.

There is good reason to buy ports on the Wii U even if you have the other systems. The split screen play is better. You can play the game on the controller when you or someone else wants to watch tv. The online play is free and everyone can have their own account. And the ports will have some additional controller features.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

What do you think Xbox has to do to one up Playstation?


Assuming the leaked specs are true (they almost certainly are), they can't "beat" them from a hardware standpoint.

But most of the games will be multi-platform which would mitigate that.

The rumors about "always on" net requirement and the used games thing are not getting them off on the right foot.

Will MS's first party games be more compelling than Sony's? And will whatever multimedia/social functionality they have cooked up be more desirable than Sony Share?
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:38 AM

Man I used to be a CAGcast diehard but my enjoyment of the show lately is limited.

I used to be a Wombat defender but he really grates on me lately. He's so self-obsessed you can almost hear him singing the meow mix song to fill the time before everyone else shuts up and he can talk again. It's laughable how he falls over himself to tell you how me met some developer or saw a demo at some event... you're playing what? Oh I know that game .. me me me me ME! Maybe I didn't notice or wasn't bothered by Wombat before since he was kind of a secondary voice on the show but since he started his own podcast he's switched over to host Wombat mode and has more or less commandeered the CAGcast. I guess this is the ambitious, bringing his A-game Wombat. I think I prefer the beaten down, satisfied with feeding on scraps Wombat.

Cheapy is fine. His passion for gaming seems a bit lukewarm lately. Does he only play driving and indie PC games now?

Shipwreck actually plays games so that gives him 1,000 bonus points over his co-hosts. On the other hand he seems a lot more cynical than before which has bothered me lately.

Well, just one man's opinion! I wanted to get that off my chest for some reason. Been listening to the show for 5 years or so.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

There sure is a lot of negativity in this thread. Can't wait to hear what comments get read out next week. I personally thought this was definitely one of the more focused shows in a while and that probably has a lot to do with there being something to talk about. I can understand some listener frustration that Cheapy, Shipwreck, and Wombat didn't watch all sixteen hours of the unveiling but I'd rather not hear 90 minutes of speculation on a console that may not even deliver on most its promises. Remember all the talk about what the Kinect was going to be like after Microsoft showed someone scanning in a skateboard? It's all silly talk at this point with the PS4.

Maybe I'm just as jaded as Wombat but I'm not as excited for a next generation console just yet. I can't see myself getting excited over better graphics when I still haven't experienced some of the best games of this console cycle. As for the features of the next-gen consoles, all I can see them as unfortunately are possibilities that may not even work correctly or be present at launch. For me the next-generation of consoles will begin in 2014 when there's good games to play and all the bugs have been worked out of the new systems.

Oh, and if "incredible device" can't be used to describe the 3DS, then "disaster" can't be used to describe the PS3. I think that's being really melodramatic.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:18 AM

I think Diablo 3 hasn't been talked about much because its just not a good game.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

What did we do to offend you? I'm very curious, since you hate us every week. (That reads meaner than I meant it. I just don't understand what we did that was so bad this week. We liked it and thought they did a good job.)



I'm not offended by anything that was said on the show. I think you got me confused with another member. I don't hate you guys at all. This is the only podcast that I can stand to listen to. Much better than other shows where they talk and laugh (loud as hell into the mic) at their own jokes.

I think that ,metallicoholic said it best... "If 'incredible device' can't be used to describe the 3DS, then 'diaster' cant be used to describe the PS3."

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

Cheapyd really brought the Hater-aid this week.
Skyfall: Awesome movie. Best Bond movie since Goldeneye. Apparently only yuppy indie movies about some guys used kleenex collection can make his A list.

PS4: Sounds like it will be great. Anyone who jumps right in on XBOX720 is a fool with all the RRODs and the xbox Vista dashboard updates, I will wait a year.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

I'm not offended by anything that was said on the show. I think you got me confused with another member. I don't hate you guys at all. This is the only podcast that I can stand to listen to. Much better than other shows where they talk and laugh (loud as hell into the mic) at their own jokes.

I think that ,metallicoholic said it best... "If 'incredible device' can't be used to describe the 3DS, then 'diaster' cant be used to describe the PS3."


Yup, got my names mixed up. Sorry about that. Yeah, "disaster" was a bit of a stretch.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:41 AM

I don't see Wombat using that share button. I'm sure he doesn't needs anymore people messaging him to tell him he sucks at games.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

Casino Royal: I thought the beginning was good and the ending was good, but there was a lot of boring in the middle. I know this goes against the grain, but I thought Quantum of Silence was a much better action/Bond movie.

As some one who never bought a PS3 the PS4 reveal gave me no reason to pick it up. It seemed like a prettier version of the PS3 which I did not buy. If all the rumors are true the 360 will be close in specs so there is no real incentive for me to pick up a PS4

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Everybody is expecting so much from sony, i was happy with presentation..A guy in this thread said the only shock was a game released on pc a year ago..really did you watch it?

Hmm i was suprised by quite a few things IF YOU actually have patience to watch and listen. People just love to highlight the negative and completely ignore the positive..infamous new son, knack .killzone shadows fall looks amazing, drive club and deep down (whoa really?00)) All that and that was day 1..we still got alot of game shows to go. Then people are mad at no new experience in ps4? Did they see the rock show by media molecule. We are barely scratching the surface of what this beast can do.

Microsoft needs to make faulty hardware again for you people.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

Diablo 3 owns some sort of record for the large number of people who played the game for 60 hours and then said it sucks.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

Cheapy, I know you are a big fan of Rock Band, so was wondering what you think about the fact that the only way to play it will be to keep this gen's consoles. Will you keep your Xbox just for the occasional game of Rock Band?

I played the crap out of 1 & 2, and a fair amount of 3, but generally don't take it out unless I'm with a group of friends. I still think the group experience is singularly awesome and unlike anything else, and I'm thinking I will probably hold on to my 360 for at least a year longer to wring the last out of that game.

Shipwreck mentioned a music game with Kinect-like "air" instruments... that would totally lose against the fun of beating on a physical drum, playing a fake guitar, etc.

I know the day of the music game is over, but it's a lot of hardware to hold onto for the nostalgia of playing it occasionally.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

wow, so I'm just about finished with the show and I think you guys are getting some undeserved hate. I think you guys are spot on with your Wii U impressions. If I was an investor in Nintendo I'd be concerned that they've lost their console touch, it may be time to stick solely to handhelds.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:51 AM

Good show but I think you guys missed a great new release on PC and haven't talked about it yet that I've hard: ANTICHAMBER. Basically, a lower budge Portal-type game but it's awesome and head scratching at times. Any impressions?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Cheapy, I know you are a big fan of Rock Band, so was wondering what you think about the fact that the only way to play it will be to keep this gen's consoles. Will you keep your Xbox just for the occasional game of Rock Band?

I played the crap out of 1 & 2, and a fair amount of 3, but generally don't take it out unless I'm with a group of friends. I still think the group experience is singularly awesome and unlike anything else, and I'm thinking I will probably hold on to my 360 for at least a year longer to wring the last out of that game.

Shipwreck mentioned a music game with Kinect-like "air" instruments... that would totally lose against the fun of beating on a physical drum, playing a fake guitar, etc.

I know the day of the music game is over, but it's a lot of hardware to hold onto for the nostalgia of playing it occasionally.


I would love for RB to somehow continue on into the next gen. The games and dlc most likely will not be BC for PS4 or 720, but it would be cool if Harmonix made a Rock Band/Dance Central channel. Pay your money, get all the songs for x amount of time.

Except the old controllers won't work with next gen. Dammit :cry:
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:46 PM

<stuff about Rock Band>

I know the day of the music game is over, but it's a lot of hardware to hold onto for the nostalgia of playing it occasionally.


You could say the same exact thing about the change from PS2/Xbox to PS3/360, right? I have all my old Guitar Hero stuff for PS2, though I almost never play it anymore...

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

I have a PS2 GH guitar and a Wii GH guitar in my basement.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:02 AM

I've got to agree with Wombat that having a headset jack on the PS4 controller is a big deal. One of the big reasons I prefer Xbox Live over PSN (and consequently buy 95% of multiplatform games on 360) is that everybody has a headset. Sure, it means that those annoying 12 year olds also have headsets but that's what mute is for. If everybody who buys a PS4 will have a headset that doesn't need to be charged, some form of party chat that's equivalent to XBL's party chat is available, and PS+ remains to be such a good value, I could see myself becoming a PS4-primary type of guy next generation (if only they could make the PS4 controller have offset sticks like the 360 controller!).
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:21 PM

I thought the PS4 meeting was interesting but I didn't see anything that got me excited about the PS4 as piece of equipment. I'm not interested in broadcasting my gaming activities to the world. I'm definitely not interested in getting a console with built in cameras and microphones since I mostly game in my bedroom...both from a privacy standpoint and the fact that I don't have room (nor desire) for any kinect like gaming either, so I feel I'm just being forced to buy features I don't want. For me, I didn't see anything to change my mind that my next hardware purchase will be for a small PC to be used for gaming exclusively. I think there will be a minimal number of console exclusives on this next generation of hardware and I suspect that I can easily get by not playing them...I didn't like any of the previous killzone games and after the snoozefest of Halo 4, I'm done with that series as well.

Given Cheapy's shift to mostly the PC side of things over the last 18 months or so, did Cheapy see anything to make him think his gaming PC will be the item gathering dust in his living room in 2014?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

Love the show guys, first commenter here... This one was a very good episode, I dunno why so much hate in the comment section.

I think the PS Plus sales/free games was blown out of proportion... I mean it's the same with Steam, I don't buy any games near an upcoming holiday because I know there's gonna be a discount coming... this is cheapassgamer isn't it?
Yeah its annoying when you buy something and then it's free... Tell that to the bunch of people that bought Orange Box on steam to get Team Fortress 2 and the it went Free-to-play...

So Wombat, have you seen 'House of Cards'? It's on Netflix and I think its great TV, maybe borrow an account and watch it?

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:27 PM

Wombat, a couple episodes ago, you mentioned a book you were reading about Batman. I can't find the podcast, so I was hoping you could repeat the name of the book.

In that vein, have you read Sean Howe's Marvel Comics: The Untold Story? I "checked" it out of the library last week (I love books I can check out digitally) and am about halfway through. It's interesting as hell; of course the Kirby vs Lee and the tyranny of Jim Shooter is well known, but there's a lot of fascinating behind-the-scenes stuff. I recommend it if you haven't read it already.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:00 PM

Wombat, a couple episodes ago, you mentioned a book you were reading about Batman. I can't find the podcast, so I was hoping you could repeat the name of the book.


I think it's Billion Dollar Batman


#88 PlumeNoir

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:17 PM

I think it's Billion Dollar Batman


Ha! As an Alice Cooper fan, I should have remembered that - thanks!

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

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