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#151 Dead of Knight

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:14 PM

, started decent, but the demands have gotten more outrageous as time goes by. Maybe it varies by store, but the store I'm at now I've been averaging 10-15 hours for the past month and a half and the store as a whole is understaffed. Feels like Target is a glorified Wal-Mart at this point in time.


As a customer, I can totally feel it too. They have gone way downhill.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

wow dude, you have a really shitty attitude. As someone who is going through the hiring process myself, I wouldn't hire you either.

Here's why he asked those questions.

1. What role are you looking for? I know what role you're applying for. I am asking this question because I want to find out whether you slip up and tell me what role you're actually looking for. They are not always the same. I want someone who wants this job, not someone who wants a job.

2. What do you like and dislike about your past experiences? I expect that HR has done their job and provided me with people that have a technical fit. I'll ask you a few questions to make sure you're not completely bullshitting about your experience and qualifications. But mostly, I just want to make sure you fit in right with me and the team. I want to see if you get really excited about something. I want to see if you slag off past coworkers and bosses.

He's not a bad interviewer, you're a crappy interviewee with a crappy attitude.

guys, here's the biggest advice I can give you: relax but be excitable. smile a lot. listen to the hiring manager and try to really answer his questions, not what you want to get out. (It's like a date!)

If you got through resume screening, it means he thinks you might have the technical chops to do the job. The goal now is to convince him you do but also convince him you'd be easy and fun to work with. Unless you're a super genius and so good at programming or something that you can be a grouchy asshole and get away with it, no one wants to work with a jackass.


I totally expected someone to respond this way.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:38 PM

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:42 PM

I totally expected someone to respond this way.


I just don't understand how the question "what did you like or dislike about your past experiences" is a bad question. We're not talking "where do you see yourself in 5 years." If you don't think "fit behavior" is one of the most important things about hiring, good luck with that.

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#155 dohdough

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

I'm going to have to go with the "truth is in the middle" trope here.

Yeah, we all know that these are bullshit questions, but by the time you're sitting down in front of someone, it's already been established that you have the qualifications and the interview is really just a personality test. I mean who wants to work with an asshole on their team, right? Not me.

edit: The strangest question I've ever been asked was "do you feel lucky?" I was like wtf?
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:44 PM

For a while, it was a decent place to work, although I think it started to go downhill shortly after I started there. I've worked in two different Targets, and the first one back in 2010 was good as my hours stayed consistent. The second one where I'm at now, started decent, but the demands have gotten more outrageous as time goes by. Maybe it varies by store, but the store I'm at now I've been averaging 10-15 hours for the past month and a half and the store as a whole is understaffed. Feels like Target is a glorified Wal-Mart at this point in time.



Pretty much this.

I mentioned it earlier, but I've been with Target for nine years this coming April and it seems like my hours decreased with every year (bordering 30 now). Plus they demoted me to the position I first started with and brought in some new guy that's never been there before to replace my previous position. The longer you're there, the more it's like they try and phase you out with "fresh meat". And soon the place is going to be sandwiched between two Walmarts so that should be fun :roll:.



Since my last post, I mentioned that I had 6 credits left until I got my Associates degree. I went through and it is more like 5-6 classes left. The thing is the college is now a four year college so I don't know how that works out.

One last thing: The vendors who've visited my Target (i.e. Sony, Mattel, Pepsi, etc.) are great people. I wish my fellow team members were driven and nice at the same level, if not more, that they are.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:52 PM

edit: The strangest question I've ever been asked was "do you feel lucky?" I was like wtf?


were you getting hit on? :shock:

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#158 Kendro

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:56 PM

The company that I have been working on contract for the past few months wants to bring me on board as permanent. I also received a call last week from a recruiter who wants me to interview with a competing company. This one is straight to perm and they like my resume so much they want me to interview in 2 days notice.

Is it smart for me to try and get these two involved in a bidding war? I did feel a little worried that the company I am contracting for right now may try to low-ball me by luring me with a perm role but now I feel like I have the upper hand. Both positions are for similar work to what I am doing right now and both are major financial services companies.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

The company that I have been working on contract for the past few months wants to bring me on board as permanent. I also received a call last week from a recruiter who wants me to interview with a competing company. This one is straight to perm and they like my resume so much they want me to interview in 2 days notice.

Is it smart for me to try and get these two involved in a bidding war? I did feel a little worried that the company I am contracting for right now may try to low-ball me by luring me with a perm role but now I feel like I have the upper hand. Both positions are for similar work to what I am doing right now and both are major financial services companies.



They wouldn't be in a bidding war against each other. You see what they offer. Accept the better offer and tell the other place that you have been offered a better package elsewhere. If they want you bad enough they will counteroffer. If not you have the other job. Very unprofessional to have 2 companies try to compete for you openly. May lose out since it shows you are more interested in money than the position with that particular company. Most places would retract their offer if they saw you doing this.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

were you getting hit on? :shock:

HAHAHA...no. It's a personality test-type question to see how easy you are to work with. If you say "yes," then it's supposed to mean that you'll be easy to work with. "No" means that you're hard to work with and feel entitled. I answered "yes" and my gf googled it when I told her.

Personally, I think it's bullshit, but whatevs.<shrugs>
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

As someone who has been conducting interviews at my company on a consistent basis (roughly 4-5 interviews per week for the past two months), PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD make your resumé fit on one page. Unless you have been working consistently for 15+ years in the same industry and expect to make $250k per year, you do not have enough experience to have a two page resumé (there are exceptions, in those cases your resumé may very well be a portfolio).

Few tips for those going through interviews:

-Be confident in your responses (you got the interview, which means they like what they see on your resumé)
-Always answer the question first, add to it if you want, but never more than a few sentences
-RESEARCH the company you are applying for! Looks very poorly on your behalf if you have no idea what the position the interview is for
-Maintain eye contact, ALWAYS maintain eye contact. Play a little game and try to make the other person loose eye contact first.
-ASK QUESTIONS, I will answer them. Asking questions shows interest beyond just the "job"
-Put your cell phone away/turn that shit off. I am taking my time to see if I want to pay you, respect my time.
-Dress accordingly. No need for a tie, but a little effort shows you at least care.

I am sure you guys have all read and seen plenty of tips. I just can't believe with all this access to information through the internet that people are still lost. Do some research, read some self-improving books once in awhile, create discipline, it will help and it will show.

A little tip for those that get the job:

We know your first day is going to be rough, which is usually why we throw you in the shark tank. We want to see if you can tread water, the expectation is to see you drown. Friend everyone and TELL THEM it is your first day, people are generally nice and they will help you if they can. The managers/supervisors know what their work environment looks like and all they ask is to see you try on your first day, because first impressions go a long way.

#162 MrNinjaSquirrel

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:57 PM

Awesome tips, will do my best to follow them:D

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#163 j-cart

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:11 PM

For those that are in school (college/university), use your career counselors. My pit fall was that I didn't use them as much as I should have. I was super fortunate to know a very good friend who ended becoming a career counselor at a major university. They have all the tools and knowledge to help you, use them because the reason most take that job is because they are actually very nice people and love to help others!

For everything I learned in school, I think a full semester is required to learn about the resume building/interviewing/hiring process. This isn't easy stuff, everyone needs practice in this process.

And if you aren't in school, go to your local community college, they have career counselors there who can help aswell. They might not have the exact answers for you, but they will help you find where to get those answers.

Just kind of wish someone yelled this information at me 5 years ago lol.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:22 PM

-Put your cell phone away/turn that shit off. I am taking my time to see if I want to pay you, respect my time.


People actually do this? If I was interviewing, and they checked their Facebook or something, I'd toss the resume. Probably in front of them.

I have the opportunity to apply to do interviews, but I'm undecided if I want to pursue it.

#165 Dead of Knight

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

For those that are in school (college/university), use your career counselors. My pit fall was that I didn't use them as much as I should have. I was super fortunate to know a very good friend who ended becoming a career counselor at a major university. They have all the tools and knowledge to help you, use them because the reason most take that job is because they are actually very nice people and love to help others!

For everything I learned in school, I think a full semester is required to learn about the resume building/interviewing/hiring process. This isn't easy stuff, everyone needs practice in this process.


They required anyone who interviewed on campus at my college to pass a mock interview so that they could prove that you were at least competent at an interview and wouldn't embarrass the school. Was definitely a good idea. There were also optional classes you could take on interviewing/resume building, but they weren't required. Maybe they should have been.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:34 PM

People actually do this? If I was interviewing, and they checked their Facebook or something, I'd toss the resume. Probably in front of them.



You'd be surprised. I can tell when you go to your phone to stop it from vibrating, do yourself a favor and turn it off so that you don't get into nervous mode because your phone went off.


They required anyone who interviewed on campus at my college to pass a mock interview so that they could prove that you were at least competent at an interview and wouldn't embarrass the school. Was definitely a good idea. There were also optional classes you could take on interviewing/resume building, but they weren't required. Maybe they should have been.



That is awesome that they required that from you. Now that I think about, I think the purpose of not making it a required class is to make it so that people who do have that drive will seek out help. Those that went to school and expected a job afterwards will be a loss because they have no passion for their craft, their drive was not for self improvement, but for selfish greed.

#167 Confucius

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

A little tip for those that get the job:

We know your first day is going to be rough, which is usually why we throw you in the shark tank. We want to see if you can tread water, the expectation is to see you drown. .


Where the hell do you work? I absolutely expect the opposite. The first day is cake. I want newbies to take it easy and learn as much as possible their first day. Not do stuff.

I've never been part of a company that puts new hires through the fire on the first day. Me or anyone else.

#168 highoffcoffee496

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

As someone who has been conducting interviews at my company on a consistent basis (roughly 4-5 interviews per week for the past two months), PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD make your resumé fit on one page. Unless you have been working consistently for 15+ years in the same industry and expect to make $250k per year, you do not have enough experience to have a two page resumé (there are exceptions, in those cases your resumé may very well be a portfolio).

Few tips for those going through interviews:

-Be confident in your responses (you got the interview, which means they like what they see on your resumé)
-Always answer the question first, add to it if you want, but never more than a few sentences
-RESEARCH the company you are applying for! Looks very poorly on your behalf if you have no idea what the position the interview is for
-Maintain eye contact, ALWAYS maintain eye contact. Play a little game and try to make the other person loose eye contact first.
-ASK QUESTIONS, I will answer them. Asking questions shows interest beyond just the "job"
-Put your cell phone away/turn that shit off. I am taking my time to see if I want to pay you, respect my time.
-Dress accordingly. No need for a tie, but a little effort shows you at least care.

I am sure you guys have all read and seen plenty of tips. I just can't believe with all this access to information through the internet that people are still lost. Do some research, read some self-improving books once in awhile, create discipline, it will help and it will show.



Thanks for this. I'm a junior in college and have my first interview ever in two weeks (for an internship position) If anyone has any other advice I would appreciate it:)
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#169 Confucius

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

Thanks for this. I'm a junior in college and have my first interview ever in two weeks (for an internship position) If anyone has any other advice I would appreciate it:)


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD make your resumé fit on one page. Unless you have been working consistently for 15+ years in the same industry and expect to make $250k per year, you do not have enough experience to have a two page resumé (there are exceptions, in those cases your resumé may very well be a portfolio).


Incidentally, this is not what recruiters have been telling me lately.

If you have the skills, show them off.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

Where the hell do you work? I absolutely expect the opposite. The first day is cake. I want newbies to take it easy and learn as much as possible their first day. Not do stuff.

I've never been part of a company that puts new hires through the fire on the first day. Me or anyone else.



Don't make me spill all my secrets, but if it was me that has a new hire, the job would already been done (not going to make myself look bad :P ), but they just don't know it. I just want to see if you can do it. I also want to see if you can one up our process and do it better. Then we have cake :P

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Thanks for this. I'm a junior in college and have my first interview ever in two weeks (for an internship position) If anyone has any other advice I would appreciate it:)



Make sure you get paid/college credit/stipend from your internship. Non-paid/no-credited internships are just companies trying to task shitty work to someone they don't have to pay. Granted there are exceptions, but if you have a paid internship before graduating, then your initial starting salary will reflect that. My brother was extremely smart in this aspect and even though my status is higher than his, he gets paid more than I do.

Also for you college people, run/apply for student body. Not only do you get stipends from your school, they may also help in housing costs. Plus the experience that you get from student body is second to none, sometimes even better than having job experience. Not to mention the other perks of meeting/dealing/.connecting with people everyday. Also you get your own/shared office (depending on your position). The last bit too, is that usually you are only going against one or two people for the position, those odds are in your favor.


Incidentally, this is not what recruiters have been telling me lately.

If you have the skills, show them off.



There are exceptions and that is industry to industry. A long time friend of mine is a photographer, he has to cite everything he has ever done, to show that he is consistent with work, despite work being two days on a weekend shoot most of the time. Then there is also the whole portfolio thing. There are exceptions, just be aware of that.

Careful with using recruiters, you are their commodity. They make a living selling you and others to their clients. Not saying don't have one, I am saying don't rely only on them for job opportunities.

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#172 Malik112099

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:21 PM

My resume is 2 pages. Just no possible way for it all to fit on one page. Everyone seems ok with it.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:27 PM

My resume is 2 pages. Just no possible way for it all to fit on one page. Everyone seems ok with it.



Eh this is really a semantics argument, but generally if you have less than five years of work experience and your resume is two pages, then you might just have a lot of fluff there.

Not saying your resume is all fluff, just saying what I am use to seeing on a resume. Some people like more, some people like less. I am from the less is more school of thought, but that doesn't mean I always have it right.

#174 Confucius

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

Put me in the "no two page resumes" crowd. Unless you're higher level, it's obnoxious and unnecessary. I won't ever get to that second page.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:39 AM

Eh this is really a semantics argument, but generally if you have less than five years of work experience and your resume is two pages, then you might just have a lot of fluff there.

Not saying your resume is all fluff, just saying what I am use to seeing on a resume. Some people like more, some people like less. I am from the less is more school of thought, but that doesn't mean I always have it right.


This is what I believe the prevailing opinion usually is. Every career counselor/experienced professional person/articles I've read about recruiters have all said the same thing. I was initially on the opposite end of the spectrum and had difficulty making my resume be a full page when I first got out of college.

Having had a couple of post-college jobs now, it's definitely become easier to fill the page with more relevant work related items. Unfortunately, both of the jobs I've worked in don't have what I believe to be any real relevant transferable skills (which is highly problematic and really bothers me) for the types of jobs them I want, so I've had to do my best to make them not seem like worthless endeavors and put as much of a positive spin on them as I can.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:13 AM

This is pretty depressing. I've had three phone interviews over the past two months and never heard back from anyone. I felt I did pretty good in all of them and was polite. I'm starting to doubt I will get anything this summer. If I can't even get a summer internship, how the hell am I supposed to get a full time job when I graduate next summer (hopefully)?
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:11 AM

I recommend doing things many others do not.

Make a professional presence online with an about.me page and a LinkedIn profile (you would be surprised how many do not)

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#178 j-cart

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

This is pretty depressing. I've had three phone interviews over the past two months and never heard back from anyone. I felt I did pretty good in all of them and was polite. I'm starting to doubt I will get anything this summer. If I can't even get a summer internship, how the hell am I supposed to get a full time job when I graduate next summer (hopefully)?



RUN/APPLY FOR STUDENT BODY! Seriously, having a position in your school's student body can provide much better experience than most internships. Even if you are not successful in getting a position, the people you will meet along the way are going to be top notch people. Having connections is half the battle.

Also you your career consular, they love to help people!

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:03 AM

We want to see if you can tread water, the expectation is to see you drown.


A similar experience happened to me 6 years into my current job. A former boss told me "I'd rather see you fail". This was before I requested a one week vacation to go visit my dad's grave. When I came back, I was pulled into doing so many people's work that I couldn't get my stuff done (and of course I was yelled at for it).

Fast forward to January where I put in for one day off to take my mother to the hospital. I was "rewarded" with a 10 day consecutive work schedule.

Getting punished for taking time off. It was actually documented in a 20/20 documentary called "Workplace Confidential":

http://abc.go.com/wa...ce-confidential

That episode also revealed some tactics people use to prevent people from being hired.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:54 AM

Got an email from a recruiter wondering if I was interested in a 6-12+ month contract position where I used to work for significantly more money than I was making before. I of course said yes. Hopefully I will hear back within the next week.