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#61 thenexus6

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

I am in agreement with Wombat on iOS games, those free to play games are the absolute worst but like you say on micro transactions, DLC etc people buy them so the companies continue putting them out.

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#62 io

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:24 AM

So I've been listening to some old Cagcasts this week, and in episode #133 Cheapy mentions that he doesn't see himself doing the podcast or even running a videogame site past the age of 40. On the next show he walks back those comments slightly, but mainly with regards to the site and not the show. Now it's nearly five years later, do you finally feel too old to be handing out a business card with "ass" on it? Do we really only have 6 months of shows left? How much are you freaking out about turning 40 this year?

Also, if Cheapy did leave would Wombat and Shipwreck soldier on as a duo? Perhaps you guys could replace him with the return of Mrs Shipwreck. Great show this week as always.


I'm turning 45 this year. There is no reason for him to stop doing anything he is doing now. I play more video games now than I ever did in my 20's and 30's.

As for feeling "too old to be handing out a business card with 'ass' on it", Cheapy has a great job (referring to the site) - he'd be a fool to give that up any time soon.

Ship - As someone with decent taste in RPGs (as definied by me) and one who is willing to try some off-the-wall stuff, I would really recommend Etrian Odyssey IV for the 3DS. Although I bought them all, I never played the DS iterations. But I am really liking this one. While it is nominally a JRPG (in that it is an RPG made in Japan) it really harkens back to the old-school Western RPGs like Might & Magic and Wizardry - you know, the first-person dungeon crawlers where you had to draw your own maps on gridded paper. That was my gaming staple in the late 80's/early 90's on those early model Macs (when I otherwise sat out the NES/SNES console era). The gameplay in EO IV is much more refined, though, of course. You get an automap on the bottom screen that paints the floor as you walk around and all you have to do is draw walls and annotate special things (like treasure chests, hidden doors, etc) on top of that. And there is minimal story nonsense to get in the way of the gameplay.

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#63 shipwreck

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:50 AM

I'm turning 45 this year. There is no reason for him to stop doing anything he is doing now. I play more video games now than I ever did in my 20's and 30's.

As for feeling "too old to be handing out a business card with 'ass' on it", Cheapy has a great job (referring to the site) - he'd be a fool to give that up any time soon.

Ship - As someone with decent taste in RPGs (as definied by me) and one who is willing to try some off-the-wall stuff, I would really recommend Etrian Odyssey IV for the 3DS. Although I bought them all, I never played the DS iterations. But I am really liking this one. While it is nominally a JRPG (in that it is an RPG made in Japan) it really harkens back to the old-school Western RPGs like Might & Magic and Wizardry - you know, the first-person dungeon crawlers where you had to draw your own maps on gridded paper. That was my gaming staple in the late 80's/early 90's on those early model Macs (when I otherwise sat out the NES/SNES console era). The gameplay in EO IV is much more refined, though, of course. You get an automap on the bottom screen that paints the floor as you walk around and all you have to do is draw walls and annotate special things (like treasure chests, hidden doors, etc) on top of that. And there is minimal story nonsense to get in the way of the gameplay.


I played the first Etrian Odyssey like a madman when it came out. Really enjoyed it and then got burnt out fairly quickly in the second because there wasn't enough time in between. I've definitely been eyeballing the new one for 3DS.
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#64 io

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

I played the first Etrian Odyssey like a madman when it came out. Really enjoyed it and then got burnt out fairly quickly in the second because there wasn't enough time in between. I've definitely been eyeballing the new one for 3DS.


Yeah, so you know that you create your own characters (also like those old RPGs) so the game won't take them away from you for the boss fight like that PSP game you were talking about ;).

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

If playing used games is up to the publisher I can't see Activision or Ubi allowing used games to work on another console. EA might because they are gonna want your microtransaction money. I don't buy used games but I do sell/trade my console games to fund buying new games. I like to rent games and I use gamefly on and off. If renting and selling/tradeing my games goes away I am not going to be able to play anywhere near as many games this upcoming gen. Thats what has me worried.

Also if the PS4/next Box cost around 800 bucks I am just gonna build a new PC and wait a year or two till the new sytsems are cheap.


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#66 guardian_owl

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if next gen one of the consoles/publishers didn't attempt to force out rental services by disallowing used games and then offering to sell short-term licenses for downloadable full games. Get a 5ish day license for $10 for new releases ($60 games), $5 for older titles or instead set the rental price at a certain percentage of the current price of the game. If a player decides to keep it, they can purchase the game within the rental period for full price minus the cost they already paid for the rental.

So rent a new release for $10 and if you purchase it within the 5 day window it costs $50, but if you wait till after the rental expires its $60. Some publishers could probably also use that as a justification to avoid releasing a demo of the game.

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#67 Indiana

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:35 PM

I agree Cheapy if Microsoft really wants to put a hurt on Sony they will release the new Xbox for $399 or $299.

If they have basically the same specs but are charging $200 or $300 less they will see Sony sitting on the shelves. My thought is that Microsoft can really make the money back selling Xbox Live for $35 to $50 a year.

#68 Indiana

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:13 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if next gen one of the consoles/publishers didn't attempt to force out rental services by disallowing used games and then offering to sell short-term licenses for downloadable full games. Get a 5ish day license for $10 for new releases ($60 games), $5 for older titles or instead set the rental price at a certain percentage of the current price of the game. If a player decides to keep it, they can purchase the game within the rental period for full price minus the cost they already paid for the rental.

So rent a new release for $10 and if you purchase it within the 5 day window it costs $50, but if you wait till after the rental expires its $60. Some publishers could probably also use that as a justification to avoid releasing a demo of the game.


I agree with you. The new Sony option of being able to stream a game with the Gai or whatever it's called sounds just like the solution to allow for renting a game versus buying it. I'm sure publishers would love this because rentals basically cause the publisher to get much less as they get 1 sale and then 100s of people use it.

#69 Danimal

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

Guys, great show as always. Ship, I also use a razor that I got free in the mail. Mine is a Gillette Sensor Excel. I have no idea how long I've had it, but it's been a long, long time. I also agree that shaving sucks. My solution has been to shave less and less as the years go by. At some point, I decided I could cut my shaving in half by shaving every other day. Eventually, it got to the point where I shave about once a week. Yeah, I look like a bum half the time, but I'm 46, married, and have two teenage kids. Who am I trying to impress at this point? :lol:
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:38 AM

Nice show guys!

Ship I've been following your stuff on Twitter about Tomb Raider. Anymore issues with the game crashing? Do you have a Nivida card?


Also I'd love to get a Super House of Dead Ninjas code!

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#71 shipwreck

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

Nice show guys!

Ship I've been following your stuff on Twitter about Tomb Raider. Anymore issues with the game crashing? Do you have a Nivida card?


Also I'd love to get a Super House of Dead Ninjas code!


I have an Nvidia card and it crashes a lot. I decided to just wait to play it on PC and I'm currently playing the 360 version instead.
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#72 bickle

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:46 PM

Just hearing Cheapy's description of Girl Model was enough to get me depressed.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:33 AM

I checked out the specs you posted about your PC Cheapy. Dayyyummmm, you got a solid state drive !?! What are the load times off that? That was one of the features I was hoping would be available for the next gen consoles. Looks like they are opting for cloud storage instead.

Great show this week guys!

BTW, put me down on top analysts as saying the ps4 will sell great this holiday season. (US, JP, everywhere)

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:04 PM

Love this show. Still my favorite podcast, even after 4 years or so. Wombat, I also enjoy uninformed opinions, but there's just something about the dynamic between these three that makes it flow so well. Thanks for hours of free entertainment!

#75 Lexian

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:12 AM

I think I've heard the negative comments about the Amazing Spiderman movie on several episodes now. While the crane scene is definitely on my list of worst scenes ever, overall I liked it. I think every nerd loves Spiderman, especially the origin. Get amazing powers, get the girl...aside from the great responsibility thing and uncle dying, what's not to like? :P
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

No new CAGcast??