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#31 Josh1billion

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:13 AM

Just a OT question: what have you been using to learn Japanese? I would like to learn, but obviously a new language is a huge undertaking

I started with Heisig's book "Remembering the Kana," which is what I'd recommend completing before starting anything else. Most other resources assume that you've already learned the kana. Takes about a week or two, depending on how much time you spend on it per day. Beyond that, it's just a cycle of learning new grammar and learning new vocabulary.

For grammar, right now I'm reading "Japanese: The Manga Way" (excellent book, $16 new on Amazon). Here's a great, online grammar guide to use as a free alternative, which is what I started with.

For vocabulary, I've mainly used Memrise. Start with the JLPT5 vocabulary list, which is the most basic, working your way toward JLPT1, which is the most advanced. Make sure you stick to the JLPT lists; skip over everything else, including the "Basic Japanese words" and whatever lists. Other than that, some of my vocabulary has also come from playing games and looking up the words I don't already recognize (Ni no Kuni has been great for this).

Optionally, you can pick up "Remembering the Kanji" by Heisig (same guy who wrote "Remembering the Kana"). If you want to be able to write Japanese, definitely pick up a copy, but if you only care about being able to read Japanese, it's optional. It's an old book, so you can get it for cheap; I snagged a used copy for $5 on eBay.

I'm also working on a web app of my own for learning Japanese right now. Doing it in my little free time means its launch is still months away, but I do believe it will be more useful/effective than anything else that's available right now.. the approach I'm taking with it is very unique.

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#32 starmask2k3

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:27 AM

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#33 AkariK

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

I'm not sure if mine is the "Asian" version or the Japanese version (I didn't know there was a difference).


You probably bought the JP version for that price, but it's fairly easy to tell the difference. You can generally tell by the CERO rating and the text on the back - for Japan it says 'FOR JAPAN ONLY', and for Asian versions it says 'FOR HOME USE ONLY'.

Of course, any description on the box that's in Chinese gives it away too, but you have to know the language better to be able to tell the difference.

#34 Serpentor

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

Hey, thanks for the useful info Josh1billion, appreciated! The lack of subtitle is a bummer. I didn't know there's an "all-in-one" edition coming out, I'll wait for that then.

#35 airco

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:13 PM

Ooh, pretty interesting. I'm a massive weeaboo and I've been looking for more stuff to play in Japanese, so this is pretty tempting. On the other hand, there's apparently an All In One edition (as mentioned before), which seems to come with an Easy mode (yuck), all the previously released DLC, and three characters from some social game based on it. I can do without the first and probably the third, but what about the DLC quests? Has anyone who's played the American version tell me how they are (assuming they've even been brought over)? I'm not entirely sure how the DLC between regions/accounts carry over, but could I buy this version and just purchase the DLC separately on a Japanese/English account? I'm also slightly hesitant because I don't actually have a PS3 yet, but meh.

For the record, there is absolutely no English in this, according to the back of the box.

Just a OT question: what have you been using to learn Japanese? I would like to learn, but obviously a new language is a huge undertaking


If you don't mind being insulted by a drunk white guy, Nama-sensei is entertaining and goes over the basics pretty well. Just the basics, though.

After that, start memorizing kanji with Heisig's Remember the Kanji. A Reviewing the Kanji account is indispensable for this, as is reviewing every day with Anki. For grammar, use Tae Kim's Grammar Guide - it's excellent. After that, just read JP and compare it to official English translations until things start to make sense.

You're right about it being a huge undertaking, though. Expect a lot of pain and frustration due to how absolutely bonkers grammar can be, and at forgetting kanji you reviewed literally five minutes ago for the fifth time that day. But for what it's worth, it's doable.

#36 fortunado

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:36 PM

Why torture yourself if you don't speak or can't read Japanese? I like Japanese audio but if you can't read subtitles I feel, even if you could fudge your way through it, you would be missing out considerably on all the little nuances of the plot lines.

EDIT: As for just owning it to have it, yeah that might be kind of cool. I could see a fighting game being fudged through a bit easier than a long JRPG though. To each his own I guess. :)

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#37 AkariK

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

Ooh, pretty interesting. I'm a massive weeaboo and I've been looking for more stuff to play in Japanese, so this is pretty tempting. On the other hand, there's apparently an All In One edition (as mentioned before), which seems to come with an Easy mode (yuck), all the previously released DLC, and three characters from some social game based on it. I can do without the first and probably the third, but what about the DLC quests? Has anyone who's played the American version tell me how they are (assuming they've even been brought over)? I'm not entirely sure how the DLC between regions/accounts carry over, but could I buy this version and just purchase the DLC separately on a Japanese/English account? I'm also slightly hesitant because I don't actually have a PS3 yet, but meh.

For the record, there is absolutely no English in this, according to the back of the box.


All of those DLC are already available to download for free for the JP version of the game. If I recall, you don't even need a JP account to download it because Easy mode and the quests are available via patch update (I assume this is on-disc for the All in One), and the 3 familiars are downloaded within the game itself. At least, that's how it worked for me, and I bought the JP version back in August.

As for the American version, Easy mode and the quests are available already. The 3 extra Imajinn are still missing as of now. I really liked the fencer rabbit, sucks that the US doesn't get him.

#38 airco

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:12 PM

All of those DLC are already available to download for free for the JP version of the game. If I recall, you don't even need a JP account to download it because Easy mode and the quests are available via patch update (I assume this is on-disc for the All in One), and the 3 familiars are downloaded within the game itself. At least, that's how it worked for me, and I bought the JP version back in August.


They're free? That explains why I couldn't find prices for them. Then why does All In One edition even exist if the content it has is freely available outside of the three Imajinn?

#39 Josh1billion

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:51 PM

You probably bought the JP version for that price, but it's fairly easy to tell the difference. You can generally tell by the CERO rating and the text on the back - for Japan it says 'FOR JAPAN ONLY', and for Asian versions it says 'FOR HOME USE ONLY'.

Of course, any description on the box that's in Chinese gives it away too, but you have to know the language better to be able to tell the difference.

Ahh, thanks for the info. Mine is the Asian version, then.

Hey, thanks for the useful info Josh1billion, appreciated! The lack of subtitle is a bummer. I didn't know there's an "all-in-one" edition coming out, I'll wait for that then.

You're welcome, good luck. :)

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#40 UnwovenNebula

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:30 PM

I started with Heisig's book "Remembering the Kana," which is what I'd recommend completing before starting anything else. Most other resources assume that you've already learned the kana. Takes about a week or two, depending on how much time you spend on it per day. Beyond that, it's just a cycle of learning new grammar and learning new vocabulary.

For grammar, right now I'm reading "Japanese: The Manga Way" (excellent book, $16 new on Amazon). Here's a great, online grammar guide to use as a free alternative, which is what I started with.

For vocabulary, I've mainly used Memrise. Start with the JLPT5 vocabulary list, which is the most basic, working your way toward JLPT1, which is the most advanced. Make sure you stick to the JLPT lists; skip over everything else, including the "Basic Japanese words" and whatever lists. Other than that, some of my vocabulary has also come from playing games and looking up the words I don't already recognize (Ni no Kuni has been great for this).

Optionally, you can pick up "Remembering the Kanji" by Heisig (same guy who wrote "Remembering the Kana"). If you want to be able to write Japanese, definitely pick up a copy, but if you only care about being able to read Japanese, it's optional. It's an old book, so you can get it for cheap; I snagged a used copy for $5 on eBay.

I'm also working on a web app of my own for learning Japanese right now. Doing it in my little free time means its launch is still months away, but I do believe it will be more useful/effective than anything else that's available right now.. the approach I'm taking with it is very unique.


I'll have to look into that too, Thx