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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:50 AM

Shipwreck reviews the new GI Joe movie, Wombat can't keep Luigi in his pants (kinda), and Cheapy goes to Legoland.

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Intro/Outro: Diplo - Favela on Blast/ GI JOE PSA

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#2 ILikePopCans

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:52 AM

I'm a bigger fan of turkey myself.

I won't comment on the supposive $5 mill for Tomb Raider (I'm no developer) but just on the fact that Squire Enix calls it a failure and a flop with 3.5 mill sold within the first month, not including downloads on things like Steam,. Do they realize how bad the market is right now; they should be happy they got that many sales in the first place. It's their fault for letting a project get so expensive under their wing.

Also I'm liking the recurring Far Cry 3 sales pitch Cheapy gives to Ship which gets more and more awkward every time it happens.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:22 AM

Really disappointed Disney cancelled 1313. It's as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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Funny you used the word impasse because that word went through my mind last night too. I think a lot of people are on the fence with WiiUs and Vitas because of lack of software + high initial price + bad economy. The problem is compounded with the release of the PS4. Because the PS4 is announced all the PS3/360 stuff is going on sale as retailers make room for PS4 so now we can get so much more PS3 stuff for our money we don't want to spend $50 Wii U/$40 Vita games when we can buy them for $15 on the PS3. SE was smart to make Deus Ex more than just a port. I believe they anticipated this, but really the system has under 4 mill so you can only do so much.

I mean if you want a HD console you have a $200 PS3 bundle with 5 games and a 160gb hard drive vs a $350 console with 1 game and a 32gb hard drive. The timing of their release could not be any worse from a value perspective. A $300 device targets a more niche audience (less casual/family). This is the type of audience that plays core games which you can find most of cheaper on the current gen consoles. They really failed more than anything on delivering the 1st party games that would have sold the system despite the bad timing. Should have been a Zelda or Metroid game on day 1 along with Mario. Anything. You look at wikipedia gaming 2013 and there isn't even anything to be hopeful about for me.

Bioshock Infinite up there with Ocarina of Time for me and totally deserves it's 96 Metacritic. Don't think anyone gave it less than a 90.

MK was the best tourny worthy fighter i've played in years because it had so much singleplayer kontent between arcade, story, tag team, online, challenge tower and crypt unlocks. I'm with cheapy in that I think it will price cut fast, but kinda want to buy it on release since I trust NRS to release another good game. Really I should to spend more time playing MK first.

This is all happening too fast. Wish they held off on the PS4 announce until 2014. I think you'd have less people saving for PS4s and picking up Vitas/WiiUs and all these games wouldn't be pricecutting faster than usual. I have too many multiplayer games that need more playing this year. Not to mention releasing a new console around the time GTA V comes out? I'm going to be playing GTA V over the PS4.

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#4 acciobeer

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

Wombat, there is a specific reason the barbershop quartet is singing a Beach Boys song. The sign behind them when they are singing even says "The tunes of tomorrow, Today!"

As you progress in the game it will become abundantly clear how this plays out.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:23 PM

I think they said Tomb Raider sold more than any of the previous entries in the series. SE isn't calling it a flop, they are just saying it underperformed. SE wasn't being realistic in thinking it was going to sell 5 million copies. That's just bad forecasting.

If you like Borderlands, you may like Defiance. Defiance is basically a 3rd person, MMO version of Borderlands. It's not as refined as Borderlands, but it is a really good time. They need to iron out some of the technical bugs, but the fundamentals are sound. Originally, I thought they had dropped the ball on marketing, but they are blasting commercials not only on SyFy, but places like FX and I see banner ads everywhere. Between the game and the TV show, SyFy has over $150 million invested. They need to see a return. The first 14 minutes of the show are online. The show also has promise.

Wombat, you may want to try the XBOX version of Justic League Heroes. It is 720p/1080i, so it still looks good. It is also balcwards compatible.

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#6 Sgt Barone

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:58 PM

Can't wait to hear about Legoland! Sounds like my kind of place.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:02 PM

I was really interested in Defiance but two days after release and not a single critic review on Metacritic. That's either a monumental marketing SNAFU or the publisher doesn't have faith in the product. Since the user reviews are pretty good, I'm leaning to the former.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:07 PM

Quote of the cast: "ARE YOU GUYS 80?!"

God only knows Wombat!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:12 PM

All hail Xadeususus(sp?)

Cheapy forgot I asked about LucasArts. Sadness.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:34 PM

Quote of the cast: "ARE YOU GUYS 80?!"


Cheapy Forgot about the all Looney Tunes episode as well.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

I had a simalar experience as Shipwreck. I bought a 3DS XL and submitted to Amazon for my old 3DS. It was in excellent condition and EASILY qualified as "Like New". I selected to have it returned if graded lower. They returned it, flat out saying it "wasn't in working condition". Had box, cables and everything it came with....very shady.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

Like new in my definition (and probably their definition) is basically if you bought the item, opened it, and played it one or two times; it's a new system that is just not sealed and so can't be sold as new. Why they didn't give you good tier is what I would consider shady. Perhaps it is common for the company to lowball systems when users submit the hardware as "like new" when "good" is more appropriate.

Sorry Wombat, your Bane voice is good, but your Mr. Freeze Robot voice is crap.

I've seen several commercials for Defiance, mostly when watching the Daily Show on comedy central and I think they might have aired an ad during the Walking Dead Finale.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

Shipwreck just said the scenes with Channing Tatum had the best acting in the new GI Joe movie. That does not bode well.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:54 PM

Shipwreck just said the scenes with Channing Tatum had the best acting in the new GI Joe movie. That does not bode well.


It's practically all shooting and ninjas and shooting from that point on.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:38 PM

Shipwreck did you ever have the 3DS Screen Problem? Its when the bumpers that surround the bottom screen on the original 3DS models touches the top screen when closed and causes marks that forms a rectangle on the top screen that are permanent. My Fire Red 3DS suffers from that problem and other CAGs have as well. Hopefully you get a lot of cash for your 3DS.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

The Bane voice literally never gets old.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

Wont get a chance to listen to the podcast until this weekend. I'm curious to which legoland Cheapy visited. We just went to the one in Florida last week, it's great for young kids.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:44 PM

Awesome show guys! It's just missing more Batman movie quotes.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:01 PM

It's practically all shooting and ninjas and shooting from that point on.


aw yea, that's all i wanted
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:17 PM

Shipwreck did you ever have the 3DS Screen Problem? Its when the bumpers that surround the bottom screen on the original 3DS models touches the top screen when closed and causes marks that forms a rectangle on the top screen that are permanent. My Fire Red 3DS suffers from that problem and other CAGs have as well. Hopefully you get a lot of cash for your 3DS.


Nope, my screens are without any scratches, marks, or lines.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:39 PM

Great show.

The Legoland in San Diego is pretty fun. The one Cheapy describes almost sounds like some cheap licensed deal like you can find in Mall of America.

SD Legoland is big, with a fair number of good rides and roller coasters. None of them are super fast/tall coasters mind you, but they are enjoyable. They also have a water park that is pretty fun.

That being said, it is still kind of mostly for kids.



Highlight of the show had to be hearing Ship's thinly hidden intolerance of Wombat whining about not getting a free game that he'd never even play. lol
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

I Know alot of DC fans who pick up comics weekly and my comic shop as well that are excited for Injustice. It's ridiculous to get hung up on basically what counts as an Elseworlds tale. Plus superheroes fight each all the goddamn time, the first two or three issues of DC's stupidly overhyped new 52 Justice League had 2-3 issues of Batman, Green Lantern and Flash trying to take down Superman. In short, who cares!

And yes there is a HUGE difference in Scorpion's harpoon and Batman's grappling hook attack. Scorpion's dazes opponents and can be used to set up combo's, while Batman's just knocks opponents back.
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#23 Icedus

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

Here I've been blaming Miyamoto for Nintendo's current state. I can look like less of a fool after I read that article on Iwata and Q*Bert hubris.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:07 AM

I haven't finished the episode yet, but I had to chime in about Wombat and the Injustice demo. I'm also a fan of DC comics and I have no idea where he is coming from on this. I've looking forward to this game since it was announced, and definitely knew what it was: a DC fighting by the guys who made Mortal Kombat.

It's not like DC even a long history of having fighting games, I can only think of two others off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more action/adventure games planned in the future.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:56 AM

I was fuming just listening to Shipwreck's account of trying to sell his 3DS to Amazon. I had a similar situation a few years ago trying to sell my DS Lite and unfortunately I didn't check the box to have it shipped back because I didn't think there was any way my system could be described as anything below "like new." Turns out it was accepted as "good" and I got $25 less than I thought I would. I'd never sell a console to Amazon.

You know, I was all set to disagree with Wombat about the Batman/Scorpion comparison but honestly that's the exact thought I had the first time I did his grappling hook move as well. I'm not saying that Batman plays EXACTLY like Scorpion but considering this is a game from the MK guys, it's hard not to see MK characters in some of the DC ones. I also totally thought Shao Khan was going to announce "fight!" at the start of each match. I'm still loving the demo though and I don't regret my pre-order.

To Wombat's comment about not wanting a DC-themed game like this, just think about the fact that Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 seemed like exactly the kind of game you would want and that didn't turn out well. I say give Injustice a chance.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:49 AM

How can one get confused/ disappointed / angry about Injustice?
Isn't it simply a sort of sequel to DC vs MK?

ANYWAYS - hate to be that guy but I'm going to call it:
ActiVision will close High Moon.

All clues point towards it: Letting go 40 employees, producing a game that will massively tank and then of course High Moon being a studio that isn't involved in Modern Warfare.

Deadpool could be a good game....but it's definitely is going to be a hard sell - Joe Schmo does know bout Transformers, but does he know who Deadpool is?
Who even greenlit this idea in the first place? Might've been a license game and the movie got canceled?


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

Wombat: Would you be interested in a Marvel Ultimate Alliance style game with DC Characters? Is that what you mean when you said a dungeon crawler style game?

Regarding the 3DS Amazon trade in - sounds sketchy to me... perhaps a good test would be to have a new 3DS / Vita / console literally only cut the seal on the box but never open then ship to amazon. Select the return back option and see what offers you get..

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#28 Ivanhoe

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:41 AM

I had a simalar experience as Shipwreck. I bought a 3DS XL and submitted to Amazon for my old 3DS. It was in excellent condition and EASILY qualified as "Like New". I selected to have it returned if graded lower. They returned it, flat out saying it "wasn't in working condition". Had box, cables and everything it came with....very shady.


Just think if you and shipwreck hadn't checked the box for them to return the item to you. You would of gotten a low ball amount instead.

I traded in my 160 gb PSslim a while back and got the like new gift card for it but it is always a gamble to know if they will actually give you the like new trade in, that's why everyone should always have them send it back to them if it doesn't meet the description that you think it is in.

On amazon a aqua blue 3DS is now down to 68.30 for like new, 58.05 for good, and 20.50 for acceptable.

I would be interested to see what would happen if ship sent in his 3ds again and see if he gets the same low ball offer amount. maybe it was just a dumb employee who looked at it. who knows.

I would think amazon also determines the shipping costs both ways, they lose money every time they have to send an item back to traders as well.

Funny I just checked ebay and a NON WORKING aqua 3DS sold for 47+shipping yesterday.

#29 Ivanhoe

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:55 AM

Wombat: Would you be interested in a Marvel Ultimate Alliance style game with DC Characters? Is that what you mean when you said a dungeon crawler style game?

Regarding the 3DS Amazon trade in - sounds sketchy to me... perhaps a good test would be to have a new 3DS / Vita / console literally only cut the seal on the box but never open then ship to amazon. Select the return back option and see what offers you get..

Great show as always!


Very sketchy indeed.
The test would be to resend it again, or use someone else to resend it for you from their amazon account.

I think I used my PS slim for about a year before I traded it in , and got "like new" condition for it, but it had the box and everything included. I never used the controller that came with it and the manual/info was still sealed as well. But they still could of just gave me a super low amount IF I didn't check the return to me box.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis is my favorite LucasArts game, too. I played the Amiga version that came on 11 floppy disks in the early 90s, and then got it for the PC when it came to Steam in 2009.

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