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#31 The Green Giant

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:23 AM

No classics in the new episodes?!?!

The Late Philip J. Fry

That's one of the best episodes.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:19 PM

No classics in the new episodes?!?!

The Late Philip J. Fry

That's one of the best episodes.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

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#34 io

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:25 PM

No classics in the new episodes?!?!

The Late Philip J. Fry

That's one of the best episodes.


Eh, you know, I had never actually watched that one and after reading the Bad Astronomy blog which mentioned that one specifcally I watched in on Netflix. It is a good one (probably better than average) but I wouldn't call it a classic.

What I don't like about the return of Futurama (and especially the movies which were atrocious in this regard) is that they have resorted to a lot more crude sex jokes. The original series had its adult humor to be sure, but it was more subtle and sophisticated. The newer stuff is more crude which I don't really appreciate. Some of them are pretty cringe-worthy to watch with the kids ;).

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

I will agree that the movies were not good at all. However the episodes were a lot better once they started coming out with them. As for the crude sex jokes it is on Comedy Central. That stuff should be expected and chances are was put in the contract that they had to put a certain number in each episode.
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

The show is likely too expensive for what it brings in. I would imagine the return on their investment is nothing like South Park. There's a reason all of the original Adult Swim shows look like Flash cartoons. Futurama is traditional Korean slave labor animation. It's still relatively expensive for a cable network like Comedy Central, and doesn't bring in the ratings like The Daily Show or publicity like Colbert.

Many of the recent episodes were really bad. I couldn't handle the one where they turn into animals. The standout was the time travel episode, and it should have ended there.

The broader problem with Futurama is that Matt Groening is not funny and his day-to-day influence on this show seems greater than it ever was on the Simpsons. You have to remember that it was Matt Groening that created the general concept of The Simpsons, but it was Sam Simon who made it into what it was, and his influence remained for a few seasons until the show started to go downhill. Futurama never had a Sam Simon and the show was never consistently good.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:05 PM

It's still relatively expensive for a cable network like Comedy Central, and doesn't bring in the ratings like The Daily Show or publicity like Colbert.


The ratings for Futurama is higher than Daily Show, btw.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

The ratings for Futurama is higher than Daily Show, btw.


I'm seeing Daily Show being higher more often, which probably coincides with the times when the Daily Show is on hiatus.

Check the August 29th, 2012 ratings, when Comedy Central aired "31st Century Fox" and "Naturama" for the first time. That night the Daily Show was also new and Hermann Cain was the guest.

Daily Show got 1.7 million viewers and Futurama got 1.3 million. For the record, Colbert also got 1.3 million viewers, but his show is considerably better at getting Comedy Central good press. An episode of Futurama costs over a million dollars to produce and you rarely hear about it in the mainstream press. Colbert gets himself into the mainstream with various stunts every few months.

The week before, Futurama did beat the Daily Show, but the Daily Show was on vacation. For comparison, reruns of Family Guy on Adult Swim consistently beat all these shows. I don't think online viewership comes into play here. All these shows likely see a lot of online viewing and piracy as well.

As the audience for pretty much everything except for the Super Bowl and the Oscars becomes more diluted, and TV is no longer a communal experience, I think you're going to see cheaper and cheaper shows because of smaller and smaller audiences. I was listening to an interview with Sam Simon about how much harder it is to get rich in TV now (well, rich like him), and that there are so many options out there. I think the only place you're going to see Simpsons-style animation is probably Fox. If any animated show could only find a home at a cable network, then I think the animation is going to either suffer, or it just won't air.

Cable networks won't pay for that. Howard Stern had a cartoon in production called Howard Stern the High School Years, and the cable network wanted it to be done in Flash because it was cheaper. Stern saw a sample and thought it looked like shit, and he demanded it be hand-drawn. The show never went further than that.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

Yeah that ramped the adult humor up because it was on video/cable.
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#40 io

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:16 AM

Yeah that ramped the adult humor up because it was on video/cable.


I hadn't really thought of that but that definitely could be a part of it. Then I'd say that the tighter restrictions when they were on Fox made them try a little harder and come up with better humor/stories.

Though on the other hand, Family Guy has some of the crudest stuff I've seen and it runs on a network. It doesn't seem like there wasn't anything in the new Futurama that I haven't seen in other network shows like that. But like I said before, the new stuff was mostly good - I just got a general feeling of it being a notch lower in terms of adult humor than the original 4 seasons. Not that the first 4 didn't have some adult situations. The Amazon episode and the one where Fry becomes his own grandpa come to mind ;). Of course that latter one is one of the all time greats and even though it was "adult" in nature, it was done very well.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:05 AM

Many of the recent episodes were really bad. I couldn't handle the one where they turn into animals. The standout was the time travel episode, and it should have ended there.


I didn't like both new season finales. The one with the three skits with different animation and the animal ones. Both had a few funny spots, but nothing to make me excited.

I think Time Travel is the best of the new episodes. The others for me are the when Bender is overclocked and the one when Bender and Hermes look for the inspector who made him.

Futurama does have some amazing episodes over the years. I love the original finale with the Robot Devil and the one with the four leaf clover. Both endings are some of the most heartwarming/tear wrenching scenes I've ever seen. Even more so than the one with the dog.

I love when Fry plays the Grumpy Snail.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:22 AM

Futurama does have some amazing episodes over the years. I love the original finale with the Robot Devil and the one with the four leaf clover.


Two of my favorites.

#43 io

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:15 AM

Yeah, the Robot Devil one was really good - great song and all.

I just watched a few of the newer ones tonight that I had only seen parts of before. The one I think called "Reincarnation" is really good - probably one of the best new ones. That is the one done in 3 animation styles (old-time Mickey Mouse, 8-bit video game, and Anime). Those last two, in particular, ought to appeal to the typical CAG ;).

And I also watched the one where Bender is overclocked - that is pretty good too. So there is definitely some good stuff in the new episodes.