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#1441 TheValeman

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 09:37 PM

If you want them in DVD cases it will :)


I've always been of the opinion that things like PS1 and Dreamcast would be better served by getting hi-quality scans of the original cases as opposed to creating DVD cases. I can see the point for N64 boxes to get better protection than the cardboard offers and the fact that the original boxes die due to their fragile nature.

However, CD cases are common as muck and sites like www.cdcovers.cc often have covers with wide variances in quality. And covers with just the front etc. So I think we an opportunity to differentiate our project just as much by offering hi-quality scans due to having members using a consistent approach in scanning etc.

That's just my opinion however.

#1442 wshbrngr

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 12:55 AM

I've always been of the opinion that things like PS1 and Dreamcast would be better served by getting hi-quality scans of the original cases as opposed to creating DVD cases. I can see the point for N64 boxes to get better protection than the cardboard offers and the fact that the original boxes die due to their fragile nature.

However, CD cases are common as muck and sites like www.cdcovers.cc often have covers with wide variances in quality. And covers with just the front etc. So I think we an opportunity to differentiate our project just as much by offering hi-quality scans due to having members using a consistent approach in scanning etc.

That's just my opinion however.


+1 for me.

I have over 100 PSX games all with the instructions and in the CD cases.
The cd cases are easy & cheap, you just have to locate the totally clear ones, which I find at Walmart. I personally do not see the advantage (especially the expense) of converting all those CD games to DVD cases.
(That is just my opinion, other results may vary)
The other down side for me is that unless you use the slim dvd cases, they will take up much more space that the CD cases do, and I am not sure you can store the manual in the slim case.
I think they look nice on my shelves in the CD cases. I have had to print some rear cover art/inlays for them using some not so good scans, but overall they look pretty good.

I also have a bunch of NES games all with instructions. Mostl are originals, but I had to print some of them from scans I found online (Which were not the best quality).
I might be interested in storage cases for the NES games, but I dunno how hard it would be to find original boxes for artwork or if the cases would also let you store the game manual inside.

I am willing to scan all my manuals/case artwork for the cause, though.

This has become somewhat of an addiction and my wife just mentioned that she would like the name and address of the person who started all this..... :)

#1443 SMMM

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 01:01 AM

+1 for me.

I have over 100 PSX games all with the instructions and in the CD cases.
The cd cases are easy & cheap, you just have to locate the totally clear ones, which I find at Walmart. I personally do not see the advantage (especially the expense) of converting all those CD games to DVD cases.
(That is just my opinion, other results may vary)
The other down side for me is that unless you use the slim dvd cases, they will take up much more space that the CD cases do, and I am not sure you can store the manual in the slim case.
I think they look nice on my shelves in the CD cases. I have had to print some rear cover art/inlays for them using some not so good scans, but overall they look pretty good.

I also have a bunch of NES games all with instructions. Mostl are originals, but I had to print some of them from scans I found online (Which were not the best quality).
I might be interested in storage cases for the NES games, but I dunno how hard it would be to find original boxes for artwork or if the cases would also let you store the game manual inside.

I am willing to scan all my manuals/case artwork for the cause, though.

This has become somewhat of an addiction and my wife just mentioned that she would like the name and address of the person who started all this..... :)


Oh damn, your wife's a hitman? argh, looks like we'll have to get OrganicCow into hiding again...

#1444 TheValeman

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 01:10 AM

Oh damn, your wife's a hitman? argh, looks like we'll have to get OrganicCow into hiding again...


Damn ... and she's actually got my address. Time to move methinks before a parcel bomb arrives in the post :D

#1445 wshbrngr

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 01:13 AM

Damn ... and she's actually got my address. Time to move methinks before a parcel bomb arrives in the post :D


Actually, she likes you Valeman..... she calls you my 'internet friend' :D

#1446 TheValeman

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 03:18 AM

Actually, she likes you Valeman..... she calls you my 'internet friend' :D


Holy .... :lol:

On a more serious note ... here's California Speed for those who want it .....

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Upped to Snack-bar ....

And Snowcone .... the idea of integrating the game list so as we add a title it adjusts automatically sounds way cool. It'll save 4tygames the hassle of updating the list manually ...

#1447 SMMM

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 11:42 AM

the idea of integrating the game list so as we add a title it adjusts automatically sounds way cool. It'll save 4tygames the hassle of updating the list manually ...


Not to mention it'll probably cover the other systems as well, right? Way cool.

#1448 Snowcone

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 01:13 PM

Not to mention it'll probably cover the other systems as well, right? Way cool.


Indeed it will. It will only be editable by those of you that need access to it.
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#1449 TheValeman

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 10:23 PM

One thing to think about if we go down the CD case path is that there are two parts .... front and seperate rear/spine .... compared to one combined for a DVD/ GBA/ NDS case.

We'd need to work out a format for posting both as one pic if Snowcone only wants one file per game. Or else the upload page is going to need another rework to specify seperate parts etc.

I sorta like the idea of pdf's if only one file is an option as you can size the pictures up and have front and rear on one page but obviously it requires the ability to create a pdf in the first instance. Only issue is page size as you US'ers use letter or legal and us PAL'ers use A4.

Still .... I'm probably getting a tad too far ahead of everything here ....

#1450 Snowcone

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:31 PM

We can cross that bridge when we get there Valeman. I'll make this modular enough that massive changes are easy.
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#1451 Snowcone

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 02:46 PM

I just wanted to give you diehards a quick preview and get your feedback: http://s164060672.on...hecoverproject/
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#1452 Backlash

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:30 PM

Looks good so far. Of course, the pages that really need design and IA (Information Architecture) are the pages for the console root level and individual game pages within that section.

#1453 TheValeman

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:45 PM

Indeed .....

I'm looking forward to seeing the individual pages too. Maybe you could whack up a mock up N64 page with one cover and manual to give us a idea of your intentions.


On another topic altogether .... but dear to my heart .... my PAL Dreamcast has given up the ghost and wont read disc's anymore so.....

Anyone here purchased one of these items?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem

and can tell me what the manufacturing date is? I don't want a non-mil cd version, eg, cant play audio CD's although you guys probably know what I mean :)

I have a fair few original PAL games and I'll need a bootdisc to play them on a US console ... something the non-nil consoles wont allow.

SO if anyone can shed light on these "brand new" consoles I'd really appreciate it given that the seller isn't answering any questions.

Cheers ....

#1454 nate1749

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 06:50 AM

still haven't seen the goo gone spray stuff, as soon as I do I'll fix the boxes and get them up.

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#1455 Snowcone

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 01:35 PM

Looks good so far. Of course, the pages that really need design and IA (Information Architecture) are the pages for the console root level and individual game pages within that section.



I am working on the inner pages today so I'll get something mocked up for you guys to see.
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#1456 SMMM

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 03:05 AM

I've always been of the opinion that things like PS1 and Dreamcast would be better served by getting hi-quality scans of the original cases as opposed to creating DVD cases. I can see the point for N64 boxes to get better protection than the cardboard offers and the fact that the original boxes die due to their fragile nature.

However, CD cases are common as muck and sites like www.cdcovers.cc often have covers with wide variances in quality. And covers with just the front etc. So I think we an opportunity to differentiate our project just as much by offering hi-quality scans due to having members using a consistent approach in scanning etc.

That's just my opinion however.


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That is why I want them all in DVD cases. They look cooler and match the current gen. Purely for looks.

#1457 CYRiX

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:47 PM

DVD cases also don't crack when your step on them.
I decided against buying some things I bidded on a lowball auction. Didn't know it'd be a big problem. Sue me.

#1458 wshbrngr

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 04:36 AM

DVD cases also don't crack when your step on them.



Step on them?

You guys are wayyyyy too hard on your toys..... :D

#1459 Snowcone

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 09:14 PM

Here is a mock up of the individual game view:

http://s164060672.on...iew.php?cat=gba

Feedback time.
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#1460 KaiserWAVE

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:08 PM

Looks great! Plus with the cover details column you can see what covers are available and what kind of case you need. This way we could add the covers for the European DS cases which have a wider spine

#1461 CYRiX

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:17 PM

Step on them?

You guys are wayyyyy too hard on your toys..... :D

lol i was thinking of something that would make a cd case break and not a dvd case and thats what first came to my head.
I decided against buying some things I bidded on a lowball auction. Didn't know it'd be a big problem. Sue me.

#1462 TheValeman

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 11:13 PM

Here is a mock up of the individual game view:

http://s164060672.on...iew.php?cat=gba

Feedback time.


Looks good. I gather clicking on the different covers will display the relevant pic as per existing site.

But ..... I think you need to make manuals also available on the same page. That way a user can get both the cover and a pdf manual from the one search. Maybe they should be listed below the cover list?

Have you had a look at any of my manuals yet? Feedback appreciated on those too :)

#1463 Jake Tower

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 05:20 AM

Are you guys doing SNES covers too? I looked at Snowcone's page and I saw there aren't very many done so far. I have a few boxes I could scan.

#1464 Snowcone

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 12:33 PM

Looks good. I gather clicking on the different covers will display the relevant pic as per existing site.

But ..... I think you need to make manuals also available on the same page. That way a user can get both the cover and a pdf manual from the one search. Maybe they should be listed below the cover list?

Have you had a look at any of my manuals yet? Feedback appreciated on those too :)


I've got some more layout changes today. I'll update you guys once I'm done and add the manuals too.
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#1465 Snowcone

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 12:34 PM

Are you guys doing SNES covers too? I looked at Snowcone's page and I saw there aren't very many done so far. I have a few boxes I could scan.


Yes, that would be awesome.
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#1466 Jake Tower

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 12:52 PM

Yes, that would be awesome.

What technique is used for scanning . . . do I need to take the boxes apart to get a good scan? Is there still a place to submit raw scans?

#1467 Snowcone

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 01:33 PM

What technique is used for scanning . . . do I need to take the boxes apart to get a good scan? Is there still a place to submit raw scans?


You'd have to ask Valeman and company. Just make sure you scan at 300dpi when you do it. I haven't made one of the SNES covers so it would probably take me a little while to do it.
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#1468 TheValeman

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 06:54 PM

What technique is used for scanning . . . do I need to take the boxes apart to get a good scan? Is there still a place to submit raw scans?


I'm exclusively converting n64 boxes and manuals so cant say whats required for SNES covers .... SMMM or Schenley have submitted scans I think and could help there .... but as a rule Snowcone's right about the 300dpi requirment for scanning the boxes.

You dont need to take the box apart. As a general rule remove the inner cart holder, flatten the box so that one spine is showing with the front or rear and scan both sides. That way you end up with the whole box scanned in 2 parts. Pic below illustrates what you should have as a result .....

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Then if you can upload it somewhere .... SMMM can do his super SNES stuff and come up with the finished cover. :)

#1469 Snowcone

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 06:59 PM

I made some mods to the view of the individual game including a very "Web 2.0" thumbnail thingy that I think will be very helpful.
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#1470 TheValeman

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 10:22 PM

I made some mods to the view of the individual game including a very "Web 2.0" thumbnail thingy that I think will be very helpful.


I still prefer the " click on the cover to see it" interface of the original site myself as you know exactly whats up for download but I have to say it does look cool except you may want to do something about the static picture as you end up looking at 2 pics at any one time. Maybe making the web 2 pic a smaller thumbnail will make the screen somewhat less crowded?

Just an opinion .... that's all!!