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#61 DoubleD

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:45 PM

On the issue of using the Kinect for chat versus a headset --

 

This once again goes to show that Nintendo was way ahead of the curve.  "Welcome to 2008, Microsoft.  Wii Speak."  (Drop the mic.)

 

Worked out well then...

 

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:14 PM

You fella's are, to use Cheapy's words are "retarded" when it comes to The Last Of Us. Easy, really? I played it on normal, had no problems. The game is the best looking game of this generation! The gameplay is great! Dare I say best game of this generation! This is just my "retarded' opinion.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:14 PM

When Cheapy was a bit annoyed about people calling the Xbox One Xbone to demean it (because they were "making fun of it" as he said), I wondered... did he feel the same way when people were saying the PS3 had no games for the longest time? For some reason, I have a feeling he didn't.

 

Totally agree about no headset inclusion with the Xbox One is dumb. Personally, the PS3 not including one did not affect me since I am a PC gamer and already had a selection of USB headsets to use, but I know that is not the norm. At this point, though, I'm not surprised at all that M$ just wants to have yet another accessory that is a "must-buy" for most customers.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:29 PM

I have not used my headset in months. I do not know where it is at the moment.  Including a Kinect makes it easier for the general public to have chat online.  If I thought the chief problem with people saying stupid things was kids I would say having a headset only fosters that.  It allows the kids to hear the stuff without their parents knowledge.  I really do not run into jerks that offen, but most of them seem to be adults.   I do think Microsoft's new Smartmatching, if it works, could help reduce the number of idiots you run into. 

 

If no one has seen this demo of Kinect it shows how the noise cancellation will work on Kinect.

 

Thanks for posting that video - some awesome tech in the new Kinect. Gives me faith that the noise cancelling will work.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:58 PM

When Cheapy was a bit annoyed about people calling the Xbox One Xbone to demean it (because they were "making fun of it" as he said), I wondered... did he feel the same way when people were saying the PS3 had no games for the longest time? For some reason, I have a feeling he didn't.

 

Look! A wild Sony fanboy! 

 

The show was great guys, good discussions as always. Have to agree with Wombat on the whole headset inclusion with the Xbox One. I'd much rather use a headset than Kinect. I'm glad though that MS is developing some kind of system to use old headsets with the Xbox One, as I still have 3 lying around the house.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:25 PM

Great show guys.

I think the xBONE got Microsoft'ed big time.
With Windows8 being a turd, MS is putting its future on Xbox. With that, there are a lot more bean counters following it than in the past.

With Xbox and then again with 360, the Xbox division was able to call all the shots and make its own rules within MS. That doesn't seem to
be the case anymore. This draconian drm and poor decisions is straight out of a Windows playbook.
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#68 lowgear26

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:46 PM

Great show guys.

I think the xBONE got Microsoft'ed big time.
With Windows8 being a turd, MS is putting its future on Xbox. With that, there are a lot more bean counters following it than in the past.

With Xbox and then again with 360, the Xbox division was able to call all the shots and make its own rules within MS. That doesn't seem to
be the case anymore. This draconian drm and poor decisions is straight out of a Windows playbook.

Thats as dumb a statement as I've ever seen. You think Microsoft is so bad off from Windows 8 that the new Xbox is supposed to be the future for them?

 

Do you even know anything about Microsoft? Just look up the market percentage that Windows has for PC's then apologize for being ignorant.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:51 PM

Thats as dumb a statement as I've ever seen. You think Microsoft is so bad off from Windows 8 that the new Xbox is supposed to be the future for them?

 

Do you even know anything about Microsoft? Just look up the market percentage that Windows has for PC's then apologize for being ignorant.

Just based on the amount of money that their divisions bring in, the Xbox division brings in less than 10% from what was said on the Giant Bombcast recently. That part of the company isn't as big as people think it is.



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#70 lowgear26

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:00 PM

Just based on the amount of money that their divisions bring in, the Xbox division brings in less than 10% from what was said on the Giant Bombcast recently. That part of the company isn't as big as people think it is.

Yes and people think Microsoft will be crippled if the new console struggles out of the gate. Microsoft is huge, the console can go on life support and not damage the company too badly. 

 

Thats why when I hear that the Xbox One is doomed and Sony has won "The Console War" I laugh. Microsoft has a lot of tentacles.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:13 AM

Thats as dumb a statement as I've ever seen. You think Microsoft is so bad off from Windows 8 that the new Xbox is supposed to be the future for them?

Do you even know anything about Microsoft? Just look up the market percentage that Windows has for PC's then apologize for being ignorant.


That is why Win8 is failing in the market. It's sales are worse than Vista for the same time since release. Sure MS is bringing in cash now but Windows is not the future. PCs are declining in general. The margins are not with Windows, it's with Xbox.

Look how many layoffs there have been at MS since 2009. Not exactly a healthy company.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:06 AM

Great show, guys.

I agree that not packing in a headset with the Xbox One is kind of lame, but I'm sure the system will have Bluetooth capabilities to connect up with the multiple Bluetooth enabled headsets we all have laying around the house. I'm not too worried.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:29 AM

Thats as dumb a statement as I've ever seen. You think Microsoft is so bad off from Windows 8 that the new Xbox is supposed to be the future for them?
 
Do you even know anything about Microsoft? Just look up the market percentage that Windows has for PC's then apologize for being ignorant.


If we could get an Android Operating System for PC, then Xbone may have to be the future. I refuse to buy a windows 8 anything.
Android Rice Krispy treat OS...sounds so good.
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#74 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:35 AM

If we could get an Android Operating System for PC, then Xbone may have to be the future. I refuse to buy a windows 8 anything.
Android Rice Krispy treat OS...sounds so good.

Like Linux?



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:36 AM

Did Mattrick suddenly become available because of all the nextbox debacles?



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:50 AM

That is why Win8 is failing in the market. It's sales are worse than Vista for the same time since release. Sure MS is bringing in cash now but Windows is not the future. PCs are declining in general. The margins are not with Windows, it's with Xbox.

Look how many layoffs there have been at MS since 2009. Not exactly a healthy company.

To be fair, many companies have laid off because of the economy. Windows is still the main OS in many businesses and it's still a moneymaker. Sony lost money for how many years and just started to turn itself around and they are smaller than Microsoft. 

 

Microsoft is not going anywhere.......


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:44 AM

If it weren't for the eye appealing exclusives there'd be no way in hell that I would buy the X1, once again the exclusives have gotten me. :)

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 06:07 AM

I just wanted to point out that Wombat is mostly right about Spartacus, but the first ten levels or so, the better weapons unlock for to buy for silver when you get to the level, and spending gold is only if you want them early. The game isn't completely horrible, but the graphics definitely have that filter feel, the main fighting characters look OK, but the background characters are what you'd expect from the crowd from Madden 05. Lastly, there is a total of 400 GS for it, and Wombat unlocked at least one, since there is one for beating the tutorial ;)

 

But great show otherwise. Glad to see the entirety of the Internet is not enraged over a 10 cent microphone. I had two of the original 360 ones and they both broke, and then I finally upgraded to Turtlebeach X41s. Social media and some odd sense of entitlement have completely destroyed any comments section when it comes to Xbox news. Just today, the fact that people were enraged over getting Defense Grid for free is ridiculous. I saw multiple comments of people saying they bought Gold just for the free games. Why the Fuck would someone do that, and nevertheless activate it, before they saw just the second game of the promotion?

 

One last tidbit, I had a good chuckle when Cheapy said the Gaystation. Personally, I like the term Sonyggers over PSwhores, but maybe that is just the Paula Deen raging inside of me.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

I like the part where Cheapy says consumers will get what they want because of the "free market" then not 30 seconds later says that the all digital future is coming regardless of what the consumer wants.


Forgive me if I have a little nuance to my worldview, and am not a black/white ideologue who can't grasp complexity.

 

This is perhaps the most ironic thing I have ever seen on CAG.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:26 PM

I like the part where Cheapy says consumers will get what they want because of the "free market" then not 30 seconds later says that the all digital future is coming regardless of what the consumer wants.

 

I think Cheapy is referring to the fact that consumers will buy what they want. You are not forced to buy ACME brand console. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Xbox, or a Playstation. You can buy one, buy both, buy neither, do whatever YOU want to do. 

 

The digital future is coming, who knows how long it will take to happen. It's just easier and quicker to go digital. Good or bad, it's going to happen. 



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:39 PM

Just based on the amount of money that their divisions bring in, the Xbox division brings in less than 10% from what was said on the Giant Bombcast recently. That part of the company isn't as big as people think it is.

http://www.microsoft....tRevenues.aspx

For the nine months ending March 31, 2013, the Entertainment and Devices Division had operating income of $958 million. Meanwhile the Windows division made $8,405 million, Server & Tools made $5,839 million, and the Microsoft Business Division made $11,321 million.

Total operating income was $20,691 million so the division that includes Xbox was only 4.6% of that.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:27 AM

I have a friend whose sig-o likes to watch him play online games with a few other friends/family.  They talk a little trash, have some fun, etc.  The watcher prefers the chat sound to come out of the TV so she can hear what's going on.

 

IF (big if) this works noise-cancellation wise, it's possible that that sort of group conversation could happen with groups/families/etc playing games online.  It's more inclusive than "I'm going to play games with my headphones on" (assuming they want to be included).  

 

I'm not defending the x1, but the idea that a $3 headset makes a huge difference baffles me.  The only argument i buy is that it helps with adopting use of chat in games, but people who really want to talk a lot will buy a nice set of cans.  The proprietary connection does seem dumb.



#83 itachiitachi

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

I think Cheapy is referring to the fact that consumers will buy what they want. You are not forced to buy ACME brand console. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Xbox, or a Playstation. You can buy one, buy both, buy neither, do whatever YOU want to do. 

 

The digital future is coming, who knows how long it will take to happen. It's just easier and quicker to go digital. Good or bad, it's going to happen. 

I believe he was actully reffering to the MS's reversal of the DRM policy when he said consumers will get what they want. If he meant what you said, then it really means nothing, cause having a choice doesn't equal getting what you want.


Forgive me if I have a little nuance to my worldview, and am not a black/white ideologue who can't grasp complexity.

 

This is perhaps the most ironic thing I have ever seen on CAG.

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:00 AM

I have a hard time believing that Wombat, the man that enjoys the Deadliest Warrior games, dislikes the Spartacus Legends game.  They're pretty much the same thing.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:08 AM

Like Linux?

. Linux has to stay in the background....let Android be thy GUI. There's only two. Apple OS and windows....there's room for one more.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:13 PM

Show 328 Notes:

3:45 Yoga
11:45 Show feedback
13:15 Ouya
18:15 Console pricing & Kinect
23:30 Pre-E3 conferences
31:30 New Releases
31:30 - Ouya
31:30 - Deadpool
34:00 - Game & Wario
36:00 - Hotline Miami
37:00 - Project Crosszone
38:00 - Spartacus Legends
39:45 - Muramasa Rebirth
40:15 - Company of Heroes
41:30 - Fistpuncher
42:45 - Nvidia Shield delay
44:45 Lack of Xb1 headsets
58:30 Atlus
1:01:45 Last of Us
1:04:15 - Animal Crossing
1:06:30 Cagbag
1:06:30 - PS+ free game DRM
1:07:30 - What launch titles to get
1:10:15 - Google Reader