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CAGcast #329: This Is Your Next Podcast

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#31 maxiell

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:42 PM

Boy, if newspapers refused to endorse a president on the grounds of, "we don't know what he will do as president," what a world that would be.

Edge looked at what we know now and is predicting success for the PS4 and not the Xbone. If you disagree, that's fine. But can you really say they don't have enough evidence to make a prediction?

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:16 PM

My constructive comment for the show. Here's the link to the Conan O'Brien video the guys were talking about for those of you who didn't see it: Conan Visits E3 To Check Out Playstation 4 & XBox One

 

I, and my nieces, would like to win Kinect Doodle Jump.



#33 betobuster

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:37 AM

I prefer the soundcloud player thing over the other one, as it lets me go to particular times in the show. I keep hearing good things about Call of Juarez Gunslinger, however I'm a cheap ass when it comes to everything, so I won't be getting it at full price. As you said, Mattrick leaving Microsoft is probably not something that came about suddenly. Yet, when I heard about him leaving I felt it was akin to the captain of a ship crashing into an iceberg, resulting in a major leak, and deciding to jump ship before all the bulkheads are closed. In other words, there was a big goof, efforts were made to control the damage, and leaving instead of sticking around to find out if the efforts worked.

 

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#34 WalkinPneumonia

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

Wombat, thanks for pointing out the Xbox Ad issue.  I hadn't noticed it before since I don't have kids in the house, but sure enough there it is on the main page.  I do hope they fix this for people with kids or just don't want to see images like that.


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#35 metallicoholic

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:41 AM

I'm not sure Microsoft is trying to compete with Sony's current PS+ plan. I think MS is just trying to show its current subscribers that they plan on offering free and discounted games in hopes that people will continue their brand loyalty and buy the Xbox One. I agree with Wombat that putting a tower defense game up at the same time as Sony is offering Battlefield 3 doesn't look great on paper, but I'm sure MS doesn't see a reason to offer something better than what Sony is offering considering the number of subscribers to Xbox Live compared to PS+. I feel like most of the people that have Xbox Live are paying for it because of stuff like online gaming and Netflix and probably could care less what games are free. It's all gravy to them. 


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#36 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:14 AM

Shipwreck needs to check out the trailers for that new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles since the art style is hideous. They managed to make the turtles very creepy by making them look more realistic than they should be.

 

My Animal Crossing must be a lot different than Wombat's version. I get attacked by bees and scorpions and my neighbors can be a bunch of assholes that beg me to catch fish for them, losing their crap all over the place, and not putting any money into the public works projects that I've been spearheading.

 

I'm pretty sure that Major Nelson was in on the jokes Conan would do for his video.

 

Technically, the first game for the Games with Gold was Fable III that became free during E3, though Microsoft didn't really get the message out there about that. I recall seeing the reception to do that was that it might be a glitch, like a prior thing that happened a while ago that gave out that same game for free.

 

Sony basically pays the developer/publisher an agreed amount of money per download of the PS+ games, which also comes with the promotional benefits of PS+ users getting to play the game and telling their friends about this awesome game that they should get or refer them to subscribe to PS+. Publishers have also been using it as a way to get people into their IPs leading up to the next big title (BF3>BF4, Saints Row The Third>Saints Row IV, Borderlands> Borderlands 2, XCOM: Enemy Unknown>The Bureau: XCOM, etc.) along with putting DLC on sale to get more direct money from PS+ people, so there's not much downside for them to do it.

 

In comparison, I'm not sure what the end result of Games with Gold is. They're not exactly picking the sort of games that promote upcoming releases nor are they offering hidden gems that people should be playing. It seems more like a move to try to convince people that they can get some actual content for their subscription money, which we've only gotten a few small XBLA games up to this point and those may not have even been Gold exclusives. As a Gold member for going on six years now, I can't say that I've gotten a ton of value out of the money. I'm not a big multiplayer games and I don't partake in the Gold exclusive deals often because I'm limited to a 250 GB hard drive that is full, so this is at least a decent first attempt to try to inject some tangible value into the service.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:30 AM

I too feel for Major Nelson.  Trixie recently posted on an article how Major Nelson was once the more formal face with herself and the gamerscore blog as differing approches to the community and now he is the only one left to face all the criticisims.  I really hope Greenberg gets it or the get someone who understands gaming and gamers like Peter Moore or J Allard. 

 

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#38 PetriesLastWord

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:45 PM

Not into the short format, didn't last through my AM walk today!

Shipwreck seemed quiet this week as well.

In for Doodle Jump! Would very much enjoy!
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#39 jgsieve

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

CheapyD, Just interested, What do you spend a year at Tokyo American club?



#40 Walt Jay

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:03 PM

Good show guys.  I thought the exact same thing when I saw the zombie movie ad on the Dashboard.  I had to do the ol' "hey a pink elephant!" trick to get my son to divert his attention elsewhere.  I have the same issue with On Demand where they run commercials for Expendables 2 or Half-Naked Reality Show while I'm trying to navigate to Nick Jr > Team Umi Zoomi.I wonder if they will add an option in the future so you can set the rating level for ads for people with kids in the house.  

 

Also, I'd be down for Doodle Jump or the TMNT gamerpics.  Yes, I still use those!


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#41 fatbody75

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:52 PM

The Cagcast is like a cajun restaurant.  I'm not going to get Cajun flavor at Pizza Hut, or at an Italian bistro.  In the same way I won't get Cagcast flavor at Giant bomb or Game informer.  While the info you guys provide is great, it is the flavor of the Cagcast that makes it special.  I think you could improve the show by spicing up is flavor.  Thus, my idea is that you guys should randomly invite one of your wives to join you on the Cagcast once in a while.  What do you think.  

 

Just so you notice this post:  BOOBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



#42 fatbody75

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:52 PM

By the way, if you have any Tiny tina codes left for 360, send one my way please!



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:04 AM

While Major Nelson didn't come off as an idiot with Conan, he didn't really come off all that well. I don't think he really grasped Conan's knowledge of games let alone interest in the specs. I think he looked worse than Martinet, because when you look at Conan talking with Martinet, he laughing. He knows Conan's a comedian, where Major Nelson kind of acted like everything it was a serious interview and from the look his response seems to support that.

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#44 shigamado

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:12 AM

Great episode this week.

 

I know I've given you a tough time both here and on Facebook for the way you were defending MS during the whole DRM thing, but no magazine is gonna tell me what my next console is. That's absolute bull and very unprofessional for a gaming mag that usually gets high praise.

 

I love your idea about showing your child some behind the scenes footage before watching a movie with scary scenes. It lets them know ahead of time that it's all make believe and fake. You should send that tip into a parenting magazine.



#45 Curufinwe

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:22 AM

Good to know that Cheapy and Shipwreck ignored all the worthwhile and logical responses to his Xbox 1 piece in favor of just whining about how some of them were mean.

And then it was time to get all defensive about Edge magazine daring to have an opinion based on all the information already out there about the new consoles. Edge is a UK magazine, and the Xbone is going to be incredibly expensive there, and not have nearly as much TV support as it does in the US. Outside of the American bubble, Microsoft is not offering a particularly good deal.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:37 PM

Good to know that Cheapy and Shipwreck ignored all the worthwhile and logical responses to his Xbox 1 piece in favor of just whining about how some of them were mean.
And then it was time to get all defensive about Edge magazine daring to have an opinion based on all the information already out there about the new consoles. Edge is a UK magazine, and the Xbone is going to be incredibly expensive there, and not have nearly as much TV support as it does in the US. Outside of the American bubble, Microsoft is not offering a particularly good deal.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:48 PM

Wombat brings up an intersting point about the image on the dashboard. I do wonder if you had a child's account either signed in or tied to your account if you would get the same image. 



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 06:01 PM

Wombat, quick show your daughter the dash, another great picture is up to scare her again.  I really wish they would figure this out.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 06:02 PM

Wombat brings up an intersting point about the image on the dashboard. I do wonder if you had a child's account either signed in or tied to your account if you would get the same image. 

I will check with my daughter's account and let you know.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:22 PM

Wombat, quick show your daughter the dash, another great picture is up to scare her again.  I really wish they would figure this out.

 

You could set your Xbox to boot straight to the disc.  Doesn't solve the problem if you want to play an arcade game or use Netflix, but better than nothing. 

 

btw my daughter commented on the gross dashboard image and she is in college.



#51 MattZack

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:57 PM

Called Xbox support and they showed me how to set it to family and none of that stuff comes up.  Also, you can put it on child in the same part of the menu and it won't pop up with the Evil Dead dashboard picture.


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#52 NateWhs152

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:13 PM

Homie, I can see your doodle.

I would love to hear what y'all think about the Last of Us.

Great show as usual.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:16 AM

So the dash replaced the ad for State of Emergency. With an ad for Evil Dead. Man that Major Nelson really hates kids.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:56 AM

While I think Wombat had it right that Sony hit it out of the park in comparison with BF3, it's only because of name recognition, sadly that's the most important thing.  When it comes to real comparisons I think Microsoft is the better deal and going to cost them more.

 

BF3 is on sale for $5 all the time now on pc, obviously more on console but EVERYONE already owns it that really wants it.  Sure you may not own it on ps3 but if you have it on 360 or pc why would you want it for ps3?  Smaller multiplayer communities and starting your unlocks all over from scratch again?  

 

Defense Grid is a solid game and valued about the same as BF3 maybe more and no one has it, lots more will likely download it.

 

So Sony wins the PR front because of name recognition and it will likely cost them very little in comparison to Microsoft probably much larger expense to have everyone scoff at them for a relatively unknown game.  It's a double win for Sony but unfortunate.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:33 AM

Thanks for talking up the latest Call of Juarez. Despite loving CoJ:II, I hadn't checked out the new one yet, and without hearing the praise for it, I might have passed it by. So I checked it out this weekend and loved it. A little short, but I'd be a very happy gamer if we saw more games that provided a similar high calibur experience, low price, and short length that left you wanting more (rather than outstaying their welcome). I can think of a bunch of games that I would've been happier with if they had been shorter and cheaper. Sometimes they just go on too long. Gunslinger was a fantastic game and well worth $15.



#56 Walt Jay

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:47 AM

To everyone (myself included) that wants to get rid of the explicit ads due to kids in the house, here's how you do it (thanks to @XboxSupport):

 

Log into LIVE

Navigate to Settings > Privacy

Click Change Settings

Click Customize

Go down to Content > Filtering

Change to Family

 

Now it's all Despicable Me 2 ads and Sesame Street ads. :)

 

FYI, I checked Netflix to see if it would block content on there and it does not.  Cop Land, which is Rated R, loaded up.

Wombat, if you could mention this on the Cagcast, that would be great since I'm sure not all the listeners check this thread.


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#57 Kazaganthi

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:31 AM

I'll take the no ads at all on my dashboard option. What if Windows loaded ads every time you booted it up...wait, does Windows 8 do that?



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:48 AM

I agree that the Dashboard ads can be a bit disturbing. I'm 21 years old and get offended by some of the ads on there every now and then.

Great show again guys- I'm in for Doodle Jump!

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

While I think Wombat had it right that Sony hit it out of the park in comparison with BF3, it's only because of name recognition, sadly that's the most important thing.  When it comes to real comparisons I think Microsoft is the better deal and going to cost them more.

 

BF3 is on sale for $5 all the time now on pc, obviously more on console but EVERYONE already owns it that really wants it.  Sure you may not own it on ps3 but if you have it on 360 or pc why would you want it for ps3?  Smaller multiplayer communities and starting your unlocks all over from scratch again?  

 

Defense Grid is a solid game and valued about the same as BF3 maybe more and no one has it, lots more will likely download it.

 

So Sony wins the PR front because of name recognition and it will likely cost them very little in comparison to Microsoft probably much larger expense to have everyone scoff at them for a relatively unknown game.  It's a double win for Sony but unfortunate.

 

As well as BF3, Sony is currently offering XCOM, Saints Row 3 and Uncharted 3 for free to PS+ members.  There's no comparison between all that and Defense Grid.

 

If MS is unable to offer recent games of that quality because they let you keep the games permanently, then they should change their policy and only let you keep the games as long as you are an Xbox Live Gold subscriber.


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

I think Hard Driving (If I'm recalling the name correctly) should be the inaugural game for a new segment "Play This Bitches."  Also, while Cheapy jokes about it, I find your real life anecdotes one of the reasons I come to the show.  As a father of a 1 and 3 year old, I love hearing what I should do from Wombat (create a couch coral to wrangle small children) and what not to do from Cheapy (leave a note for your 5 year old while you go to the emergency room at 3 am).  I also look forward to hearing Shipwreck's stories as he experiences life as a new father.

 

In for Doodle Jump and I would take a TMNT pic as long as it's Raphael!


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