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#31 Freemason

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:20 PM

yeah   i had one on bank last night with a full haul w/ boxes... also crashed at escape, no credit... bleh. BUT i did get my saw, so we can run Overkill 4 Stores like nobodys business. ATM's and cash drawers nets about a $45k payday and quick cards in about 3 minutes


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#32 SEH

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:57 PM

Yo, I got my Saw too. Lets do this.

 

I was doing Jewelry Store heists on Overkill with some dudes earlier. They'd put a jammer down, we'd bag up all eight bags, he'd put a second jammer down and we'd run them to the truck. Took probably a minute total for each run. It's easy cards, like 50K in cash and is worth like 12K XP.


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#33 Freemason

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 01:51 AM

yeah thats a good one too as long as everyone is onboard. jammers last 15 seconds on default so ya slap 2 down, keep the outside/hotdog stand from noticing ya, and it is a cakewalk. we rocked tonight, and that is how it should go everytime, right people with the right tools, now i gotta get my voice fixed, seems to be random when in game when it works and when it doesnt.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 02:05 AM

posted new screens of my current weapon set ups, I pretty much only use these, and have both shotguns, but until i get any upgrades for them, will stick with these. The Crosskill with a 16 Round clip is nuts, and my tricked out mini M4 will be sweet when done.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

changing my build as well to THE BAGMAN so i can saw, drill, and place shaped charges. I want to be able to open every damn safe, vault, and door in the game lol


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#36 Freemason

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:30 AM

got up to 48, respecced out of the saw and into C4, shaped charges are the shit and you can blitz missions like a mofo.


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#37 SEH

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:27 PM

I'd spec out of the saw as well, but it's key for solo'ing Overkill Four Stores. I was doing that last night as I was getting annoyed by the pubbers I was getting. They just couldn't understand doing Jewely heists on Overkill in like 30 seconds.

 

In order to do it everyone has to bag and run them to the truck. I'd get these dudes who'd still be walking around outside with their mask off as I'm inside bagging jewelry telling them to get in and help. A mission that should take 30-60 seconds wound up taking 10-15 minutes as we'd have to wait out waves.

 

I got tired of that and just starting solo'ing Four Stores just to get free cards at the end.

 

Oh, and I've had to download Update #2 three times now. Every time I restart Steam it makes me download the update again. This is getting slightly annoying.


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#38 SEH

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 08:24 PM

Dumbasses out in full force on the weekends. Just doing a bank heist on Overkill and we were SO damn close to completing it stealth. Up until the one moron had to fire his unsilenced weapon, alerting everyone.

 

Same mission, I'm sawing deposit boxes as the assault wave is going on. The only other guy who can speak is telling everyone to just guard the safe door while I'm sawing. I don't know if the other two couldn't speak English or what, but they just hovered over me the entire time watching me open boxes. No matter how many times myself and the other guy told them to defend, they refused. They never spoke or typed, just stood there watching me open boxes. Obviously we failed.

 

Game is getting to be a huge grind now. I need to do the longer missions on Overkill to get good money and XP, but it's so difficult with pubbers. Somehow they are able to hit level 40+ yet still be completely clueless as to how the game works.

 

I'm not sure what weapons I want to main either. Shotguns are OP at the moment and I'm spec'd into them in the Enforcer tree, but they're kind of boring. 


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#39 Freemason

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 10:36 PM

yeah i left the shotguns and went to the 308 and the HK primary depending on mission and the Para Submachine gun or Crosskill 2nd. C4 still works great for Four stores, just gotta find the big safe. I run Ukranian Job, Nightclub, Four Stores as much as possible for max cash/XP. A lot of the higher level noobs are ones that just ride into rooms running the above to soak up the XP but learn nothing on how to run missions at all. I have begun hosting and running my own rooms so i can kick asshats. Nightclub Overkill is about 125K cash and 14kish xp for under 3 minutes.


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#40 Draekon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:08 PM

I run Ukranian Job, Nightclub, Four Stores as much as possible for max cash/XP. A lot of the higher level noobs are ones that just ride into rooms running the above to soak up the XP but learn nothing on how to run missions at all. I have begun hosting and running my own rooms so i can kick asshats. Nightclub Overkill is about 125K cash and 14kish xp for under 3 minutes.

 

These three missions are why people can level up fast without knowing what the hell to do. So long as one person has C4, it's easy a hell. I just used two of the three (Four Stores is pretty sub-par after a certain point) to level up the new 4th in my group. I think he went from level 0 to level 30 or so in a few hours while still doing other various missions like Bank Heist (Pro) and another to try and teach him how to play properly. He's one of the types of likes to follow you so close that he would get detected if following someone more stealth, so it's a little bit of a challenge but at least he listens.

 

I think my group is at the point to where we can start doing harder missions without having to sacrifice something. Stealth is something we're still working on as a group though. Trying to figure out the maps and its random generation of things. Granted some maps you can't stealth at all to my knowledge.



#41 SEH

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 03:46 PM

I added a guy the other night who stealthed every single mission we did. We were knocking out Overkill Framing Frames in like 15-20 minutes getting 900K payouts.

 

Also, someone showed me yesterday another quick way to level. Do Rats on Overkill, blow up the lab, rush through to get the intel, then just blow up the bus and leave. Takes like maybe 10 minutes (a bit longer if you get stuck doing escape scenarios) and you can get around 40K XP.


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#42 Draekon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:07 PM

There's an oversight in the second level of Framing Frames where you can haul (at least 3) bags of cash to the drop off site without any enemies coming since the door opens prior to switching all the paintings for cash. After you request the fourth (may be the 'last' if you do more than 4 paintings in day 1, not sure) the guys come in on you.

 

 

Also, someone showed me yesterday another quick way to level. Do Rats on Overkill, blow up the lab, rush through to get the intel, then just blow up the bus and leave. Takes like maybe 10 minutes (a bit longer if you get stuck doing escape scenarios) and you can get around 40K XP.

 

Blow up the bus? I've always just shot everybody on it or does it matter?

 

What's a fast way to blow up the lab? I haven't been the one to interact with it on the mission ever, so I'm kind of curious.



#43 SEH

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:13 PM

For the bus we'd just go on-board, take a bag of cash and then let the C4 underneath blow up, destroying the bus. Not sure if you have to blow it up or not, but that's the way we were doing it.

 

As for blowing up the lab, just use the wrong ingredient right away.


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#44 Draekon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:36 PM

If you haven't already you should try Big Oil. It's the only mission I haven't successfully finished in any way. I need to get better at deciphering the information in that level which lets me pick the right one.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:43 PM

Oh yeah, I've tried Big Oil like half a dozen times. I've yet to successfully complete it. It usually winds up with our whole crew each lugging out an engine and us dying as we keep delivering engines to the helicopter since apparently all the ones we brought out are/were incorrect.

 

The Steam community hub for the game has a few guides for the mission. I haven't looked into them though. All I know is it involves numerous formulas and equations.


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#46 Draekon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, it involves two clipboards that tell you the colors/wiring to look for. Then the last one is something about some PSI equation. It's pretty crazy either way and I honestly hope to see more like it that require a bit of work to figure out and get done. Just maybe something that doesn't require me to jump on google to run some equations so I can calculate fucking PSI. Especially when the game is not minimize friendly.



#47 SEH

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:53 AM

Anyone know of a good stealth build? I'm gonna spec out of the enforcer/saw and am considering doing a stealth build so I can solo stuff like Framing Frames.


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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:11 AM

Oh yeah, I've tried Big Oil like half a dozen times. I've yet to successfully complete it. It usually winds up with our whole crew each lugging out an engine and us dying as we keep delivering engines to the helicopter since apparently all the ones we brought out are/were incorrect.

 

The Steam community hub for the game has a few guides for the mission. I haven't looked into them though. All I know is it involves numerous formulas and equations.

 

Hit me up on Steam if you want help with that, I got it down in my head already. RandomAlec is my username.

 

Anyone know of a good stealth build? I'm gonna spec out of the enforcer/saw and am considering doing a stealth build so I can solo stuff like Framing Frames.

 

Personally, I'm going to final build into a main Mastermind and Ghost build which to top it off includes all the stealth skills of the game honestly. Of course, in my opinion.


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#49 SEH

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:09 PM

Doing stealth in this game is really starting to piss me off. I've been trying to get the Bank Heist missions down, but something dumb always happens, setting off the alarm. Just now I had the side of the bank where the vault was completely cleared. I guess a civ in the main part of the bank saw one of my body bags all the way back in the camera room (which was near the steps to get the the roof so there was no way for them to physically see the bags) and alerted the police. Didn't know they added x-ray vision to civs in the most recent patch.

 

I had one earlier where I had the entire room cleared and the drill going for a good two minutes. I was literally just sitting there counting down the time when the alarm starts going off. I had all the guards either bagged or cuffed and every civ in the area zip tied and it just randomly tripped. It never even gave a notice as to what set it off.

 

Just dumb shit like that that is really getting on my nerves.


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#50 Draekon

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

You sure it's not a civilian passing by outside of the Bank that notices something? I do wish we could close doors though. It only makes sense.



#51 SEH

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:37 PM

Even if a civ walked by on the street, they would not be able to see into the camera room. They'd have to actually walk into the back door of the bank and almost come inside.


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#52 Logg

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

I just got this game, played for like 4 hours.  It's a good time feel free to add me Loggjaw

 

Also I got a foil drop, that makes the game a whole dollar cheaper.



#53 Freemason

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:51 PM

honestly, i love stealth. BUT, I find in this game i am much better at blowing shit and people up. I am sticking with my C4/SAW build but with the bump to ECM being more useful, think it will still be a good complimentary build. I really wish the respecs were less brutal but when i reach 100 i think i will aim for a technician, ghost build that is a mix of everything. My role seems to be that of killing and support and covering the less fortunately armored. One thing that does bug me to no end... is how many people never take cover to reload or keep from getting shot... bullets coming in, get your head down lol. ALSO, "going loud" with me is a blast, I have fire breathers, tanks, and suppression maxed on my stuff so i fire a burst and everything under specials goes diving for cover lol.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:56 PM

I added you too Logg to friends, from Shepard. I think we should set us a CAG Crew Night a couple nights a week schedules willing. Share our info and rock some cash.


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#55 Freemason

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:06 PM

These three missions are why people can level up fast without knowing what the hell to do. So long as one person has C4, it's easy a hell. I just used two of the three (Four Stores is pretty sub-par after a certain point) to level up the new 4th in my group. I think he went from level 0 to level 30 or so in a few hours while still doing other various missions like Bank Heist (Pro) and another to try and teach him how to play properly. He's one of the types of likes to follow you so close that he would get detected if following someone more stealth, so it's a little bit of a challenge but at least he listens.

 

I think my group is at the point to where we can start doing harder missions without having to sacrifice something. Stealth is something we're still working on as a group though. Trying to figure out the maps and its random generation of things. Granted some maps you can't stealth at all to my knowledge.

 

yeah there are many that have power leveled through these just waiting by the van or standing around. I still have a few missions i have not played yet at level 60, but I also only focus on one or two heists until i have them down then move to the next.  the escapes added in to prevent farming is alright, makes those that did nothing, earn nothing. 


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#56 Freemason

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:35 PM

I am thinking of doing a build like THIS now. Should really tune in on my playstyle. Can C4 stuff, all but silent drills, bonuses to all the weapons I use, better pager, can move bodies, some team bonuses, all in all it think it'll fit what I do nicely.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:46 PM

Need good a crew to do the 7 Meth Bags achievement.