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#31 Navigator2001Plus

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:20 AM

Isn't 4k four times the resolution of 1080p?  If so, then shouldn't it take 4 times the data?  That's a lot lesss than a terabyte.

 

No, he's right.

 

From here: http://www.digitaltr...y-availability/

 

"At 4K resolution, a 90-minute movie running at 30 frames per second would require more than 3.6 terabytes of storage. That’s part of the reasons studios tend to ship digital movies to cinemas on physical hard disks."


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#32 anderson4145

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:11 AM

Those Blu-ray discs certainly aren't true 4k. A movie in full 4k would take terabits of data, and a BD just doesn't have that kind of space. The 4k displays look awfully nice in store, but other then the demo they show it's going to be years until 4k media is even available.

Yeah, they aren't 4k. Just mastered in 4k I thought that was pretty clear. Anyway you're right current BD's can't fit a 4k movie that's why Sony has their own media thing you use to download them. I think the 4k movies are around 150-200GB's. http://www.theverge....-plus-downloads



#33 Blaster man

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:19 PM

No, he's right.

 

From here: http://www.digitaltr...y-availability/

 

"At 4K resolution, a 90-minute movie running at 30 frames per second would require more than 3.6 terabytes of storage. That’s part of the reasons studios tend to ship digital movies to cinemas on physical hard disks."

That sounds like it's uncompressed.

 

 

Yeah, they aren't 4k. Just mastered in 4k I thought that was pretty clear. Anyway you're right current BD's can't fit a 4k movie that's why Sony has their own media thing you use to download them. I think the 4k movies are around 150-200GB's. http://www.theverge....-plus-downloads

I wonder how many people's Internet connections are good enough to download a 200GB file on demand when they want to watch a movie...this makes me think that 4k isn't going to stand a chance.  If you're streaming a 4k movie on a service like VUDU, you'd probably need a 50 gigabit connection (or better)  IIRC VUDU recommends at least 9 megabit for their "HDX".  I don't see this format being successful without a physical media and most people aren't going to be in a hurry to move beyond blu ray (and a lot of people are still on DVD!).



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:47 PM

I wonder how many people's Internet connections are good enough to download a 200GB file on demand when they want to watch a movie...this makes me think that 4k isn't going to stand a chance.  If you're streaming a 4k movie on a service like VUDU, you'd probably need a 50 gigabit connection (or better)  IIRC VUDU recommends at least 9 megabit for their "HDX".  I don't see this format being successful without a physical media and most people aren't going to be in a hurry to move beyond blu ray (and a lot of people are still on DVD!).

 

Yeah, I would rather have it on a disk. It would take like 12-15 hours to download a movie so that's too long for me.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 08:00 PM

Sony rewards added mastered in 4k blu-rays. Some are only 1999 points which is pretty low.    http://www.sonyrewar...ch?lh=1&find=4k



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 03:16 AM

Pretty sure these are the same as the previous released with only the "(Mastered in 4k)" appended to the description. Some may have been re-done, like Ghostbusters though.

 

Most Blu-ray's if I'm not mistake are mastered from the original film, which when scanned in is estimated at about 4k, even though film really doesn't have a pixel count. 



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 04:23 PM

I've read the reviews on Blu-ray.com and all of them are an improvement from their previous releases. Some are more drastic than others though. http://www.blu-ray.c...on=bluraymovies



#38 Petey Parker

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:44 AM

I've read the reviews on Blu-ray.com and all of them are an improvement from their previous releases. Some are more drastic than others though. http://www.blu-ray.c...on=bluraymovies


Wow a perfect score for Spider-Man 2. Even the first one has a good score.

#39 anderson4145

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:39 PM

Spiderman dropped to $12.04 on amazon. http://www.amazon.co...m=ATVPDKIKX0DER



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:15 AM

Seiki 39-Inch 4K (3840 x 2160 Resolution) LED HDTV or Monitor. $569 with free shipping after coupon code UHD4K. Tax in NJ. Great deal and I've heard many people use this as a computer moniter.



#41 Blaster man

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:49 PM

Rumor has it, Apple is putting out a 2,500 65" 4k TV next year and a 55" one for somewhat less.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:04 PM

Interesting but I'm sure it will be overpriced like all Apple products.



#43 DestroVega

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:52 AM

Interesting but I'm sure it will be overpriced like all Apple products.


As long as it's better than everything else like all Apple products.

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#44 Blaster man

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:54 PM

Interesting but I'm sure it will be overpriced like all Apple products.

 

As long as it's better than everything else like all Apple products.

 

Well, the rumors have been all over the place.  The current one says that the price will be $1,500 - $2,500 and come in two sizes, 55" and 65".  I'm not sure if they plan on making massive profits off the sets since that seems very cheap for a 4k TV.  Maybe they expect the iTunes integration to generate a ton of revenue.  Also, it may come with a controller.

 

Here's the recent rumor list though this site doesn't list the rumored prices.

http://www.displayse...for-innovation/



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:44 PM

I don't care how many makes and models of 4k TV's get put out there. Until there is a 4k media disc or unless you live inside a Google data center it's pretty pointless to buy one.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

Looks like Netflix is going to be streaming 4k next year. House of cards is confirmed as one of the first shows that will have it. http://www.theverge....aunch-next-year



#47 Blaster man

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:20 PM

Looks like Netflix is going to be streaming 4k next year. House of cards is confirmed as one of the first shows that will have it. http://www.theverge....aunch-next-year

Yep I read this a while back, you'll need a 15 megabit connection for it, not a problem for me. iTunes will also stream 4k. These bandwidth requirements show that the "all digital future" is nowhere near today for most Americans.
http://bgr.com/2013/...x-4k-streaming/
Imagine if you wanted to stream 4k to 2 TV's in your house at once along with other internet activity.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 06:28 AM

Hey I'm all for these 4K-friendly Blu-Ray movies and HD Netflix streams - keep them coming!  Those that are lucky enough to own a 4K TV & Blu-Ray Player will obviously take advantage, while the rest of us will eventually benefit from slightly enhanced versions of these movies & shows on 1080p screens.  Win-win.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:55 AM

Angels & Demons (Mastered in 4K) Dropped to $12.92 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co...m=ATVPDKIKX0DER



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 02:11 PM

The amazing spider man dropped to $10.49

http://www.amazon.co...=mastered in 4k

Godzilla dropped to $11.99

http://www.amazon.co...=mastered in 4k



#51 were8kosh

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:44 PM

4k steaming will never take off in the US. Just think of the bandwidth it would take. most internet in the US is cap or on the way to cap. even most unlimited have a cap of slower speed or a call telling you need to join a higher monthly package.



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:08 PM

I wonder how long before we have idiots going around claiming "bluray is unwatchable, true movie lovers watch 4k!" The same way DVD is somehow "unwatchable" to these idiots now.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:25 PM

I'll admit never heard of 4k until this thread. So it's basically the next step up from 1080p? If that's it not interested. My regular BRs are good enough and I just finally upgraded nearly everything I had on DVD so there is no way I'm replacing everything again. I'm also one of those people that are still content with the quality from DVDs so this doesn't appeal to me a bit.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 12:42 AM

You may want to read the whole thread, these are blu-rays mastered from a 4k transfer not true 4k so you can play them on regular bluray players. The picture quality is much better than the normal blues though.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 12:47 AM

I wonder how long before we have idiots going around claiming "bluray is unwatchable, true movie lovers watch 4k!" The same way DVD is somehow "unwatchable" to these idiots now.


To be fair depending on the age of the DVD and if running through a BD player some of them ARE unwatchable. Largely thanks to formatting issues due to upscaling but still. I'm slowly upgrading all of my old Miramax/Dimension flicks because of this. But the truth of the matter is, I agree with essentially what you're saying. I couldn't care less about 4K on the horizon. Most movies still aren't even shot in 4K.

#56 Blaster man

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 11:20 AM

4k steaming will never take off in the US. Just think of the bandwidth it would take. most internet in the US is cap or on the way to cap. even most unlimited have a cap of slower speed or a call telling you need to join a higher monthly package.

Huh?  That doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.  It doesn't take a critical mass to have streaming blu ray "take off" because you are streaming it, not buying it.  If you're talking about 4k tv's then maybe you're right but Netflix will be able to stream 4k even if no one has the TV's or bandwith.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 01:37 PM

I wonder how long before we have idiots going around claiming "bluray is unwatchable, true movie lovers watch 4k!" The same way DVD is somehow "unwatchable" to these idiots now.


If you don't see a huge difference between DVD picture quality and blu-ray, you might wanna turn the table on throwing around the idiot comment.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 04:30 PM

The difference between DVD and Blu-ray depends on the age of the show and who made the DVDs. Recent shows look good on DVD, but shows from the last century usually look OK at best on an HDTV.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:12 PM

If you don't see a huge difference between DVD picture quality and blu-ray, you might wanna turn the table on throwing around the idiot comment.

I think you need to read my comment again and see where you went wrong...



#60 DestroVega

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 08:02 PM

I think you need to read my comment again and see where you went wrong...


Ah. I got ya. Yeah, I'm sorta one of those douchebags. I won't haggle over blu ray and 4K tho.

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