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CAGcast #337: A Very Special Tokyo Game Show Special

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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:21 AM

Super Programmer John joins Wombat and Cheapy for a Tokyo Game Show 2013 discussion with PS4 and Xbox One impressions, including: TitanFall, Deep Down, Forza 5, RYSE and much more!

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CAG #337

5:45 Show Feedback
5:45 - Vita TV
10:30 New Releases
10:30 - Grand Theft Auto 5
19:15 - Foulplay
19:30 - Wonderful 101 demo
20:15 Tokoyo Game Show
22:00 - Deep Down
24:30 - Forza 5
25:30 - Drive Club & Battlefield 4
26:00 - Dual Shock 4 controller
26:45 - Xbox One controller
27:45 - Killer Instinct
29:30 - Ryse
31:30 - Fable Anniversary
33:00 - Titanfall
37:45 - Kinect
42:30 - Wolfenstein
44:30 Splinter Cell: Blacklist
45:45 Diablo III AH is going away
48:30 PS3/PS4 updgrade program
51:15 Hiroshi Yamauchi
51:45 iOS7
54:30 Cagbag
54:30 - Best/worst food in Japan
55:45 - Monster Hunter
56:30 - Programming
57:30 - Any new games on current gen systems
58:30 - Cag iOS app status
1:01:30 - Why so tired, tiredjohn?
1:01:45 - Cag 3.0 done?
1:03:30 - Digital version issues
1:04:30 - Thanksgiving sales


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#2 mwmike11

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:46 AM

Good to hear Fable Anniversary get a good mention, even if it was that the game was a little rough. That had to be the reason it got pushed to February. Personally, even though it is a last gen game, I'me still very much looking forward to this getting released. This is one of the games I'm still looking forward to coming out for the current-gen. I'm not planning on getting into next-gen for a while, so that, Batman, and LEGO Marvel are definitely on my to-get list when they come out soon.

 

Great episode, nice hearing from Tired John after all these years of hearing him mentioned. Look forward to next week.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:12 AM

I thought super programmer John made a great addition to the crew – could he become the fourth member? Assuming he can stay awake that is.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:17 AM

Looking forward to this. After the latest audioboo I was going to suggest that super programmer John make a guest appearance.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:28 PM

I doubt John could be a fourth because they record in late eat time and I bet it is like 2 a.m. where John is by that time.

 

Also, most of the launch games for the consoles should not look better than a PC because the consoles are coming in HOT, but once developers have time to look at the systems they should get much better.

 

But I don't care much about graphics really. I just want great new gameplay. The game I am most excited for is Galak-Z: The Dimensional because it is being compared to Halo because it has multiple factions that can fight each other and I am a sucker for AI fighting.

 

Also, where is Shipwreck...



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:47 PM

SMH at some of the stuff in this episode.

 

  • Wombat calls Franklin from GTA...Trevor.  
  • Wombat shouldn't even had talked about GTA after playing for 2 hours(which I didnt think he actually did play 2 hours)...his impressions were nonsense
  • Wombat says TitanFall is due out June 2014 and Cheapy says "yup Spring"...wtf?
  • CheapyD not buying or playing one of the biggest games of this generation and the dude owns a video game site.  SRS?
  • Cheapy is terrible at video games...Splinter Cell was pretty easy.  I am terrible at stealth and finished with 80% ghost rating

 

 

Tired John is awesome...have him replace wombat...or at least fill in for him from time to time.

 

Anyway thanks for the show weekly.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:04 PM

Loved the intro this week. I'm listening to it again right now via the YouTube link you included. John was a great addition to the show.

 

As for the "next gen-ness" of the new consoles, maybe you've been playing too much on your souped up PC or maybe the old adage is true: never buy a console at launch. I'll probably wait until one of them has some actual games I want to play. The launch lineups look terrible to me.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:26 PM

SMH at some of the nonsense in this episode.

 

  • Wombat calls Franklin from GTA...Trevor.  
  • Wombat shouldn't even had talked about GTA after playing for 2 hours(which I didnt think he actually did play 2 hours)...his impressions were nonsense
  • Wombat says TitanFall is due out June 2014 and Cheapy says "yup Spring"...wtf?
  • CheapyD not buying or playing one of the biggest games of this generation and the dude owns a video game site.  SRS?
  • Cheapy is terrible at video games...Splinter Cell was pretty easy.  I am terrible at stealth and finished with 80% ghost rating

 

 

Tired John is awesome...have him replace wombat...or at least fill in for him from time to time.

 

Anyway thanks for the show weekly.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:09 PM

Why do you listen? are you forced to? Would you like a refund?

 

Cause I enjoy listening to the show regardless of my comments above.  I wont like every episode...even though Tired John was awesome.

 

ok, ok..I take back the replacing Wombat thingy.  Lets see pics of that Ford Fiesta.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:12 PM

Loved the intro this week. I'm listening to it again right now via the YouTube link you included. John was a great addition to the show.

 

As for the "next gen-ness" of the new consoles, maybe you've been playing too much on your souped up PC or maybe the old adage is true: never buy a console at launch. I'll probably wait until one of them has some actual games I want to play. The launch lineups look terrible to me.

 

yeah if your playing on PCs the next gen graphics will not impress but the 90% of the gaming community don't know what a GTX Titan is so they will be impressed.  

 

About the next gen gamez...yes in a few years we will be talking about these launch games like we do every console...they sucked.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:34 PM

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:55 PM

CAG #337

5:45 Show Feedback
5:45 - Vita TV
10:30 New Releases
10:30 - Grand Theft Auto 5
19:15 - Foulplay
19:30 - Wonderful 101 demo
20:15 Tokoyo Game Show
22:00 - Deep Down
24:30 - Forza 5
25:30 - Drive Club & Battlefield 4
26:00 - Dual Shock 4 controller
26:45 - Xbox One controller
27:45 - Killer Instinct
29:30 - Ryse
31:30 - Fable Anniversary
33:00 - Titanfall
37:45 - Kinect
42:30 - Wolfenstein
44:30 Splinter Cell: Blacklist
45:45 Diablo III AH is going away
48:30 PS3/PS4 updgrade program
51:15 Hiroshi Yamauchi
51:45 iOS7
54:30 Cagbag
54:30 - Best/worst food in Japan
55:45 - Monster Hunter
56:30 - Programming
57:30 - Any new games on current gen systems
58:30 - Cag iOS app status
1:01:30 - Why so tired, tiredjohn?
1:01:45 - Cag 3.0 done?
1:03:30 - Digital version issues
1:04:30 - Thanksgiving sales

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

Why do you listen? are you forced to? Would you like a refund?

Just ignore him Wombat.  Everybody knows that in Ghostbusters Stantz may be the leader and Spengler the brains, but it's Venkman who's the hero. ;)



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:10 PM

Disappoint.

Hearing Forza doesn't look as good as Cheapy hoped. 

Hope it plays just as well as past Forzas.

 

Has anyone ever said anything negative about TItanfall? lol



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:22 PM

Maybe I'm just an idiot or was overly tired, but I seriously thought that was Shipwreck doing a british accent the whole show. I thought wow Shipwreck isn't going to break character at all even in closing.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:53 PM

Woah, I didn't even know about the Fable remake. I haven't even finished TLC I picked up during the Steam Summer Sale though so a graphics update isn't enough to make me shell out another 20+ on it.

 

I'm glad you guys talked about GTA5, the only things I've heard about it are "everyone loves it" and "theres a gross strip club minigame". I hope next week we can get an update on the strip club and exactly how gross it is! 

 

Thanks for the show, guys, new listener but liking it a lot already



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:10 PM

Not necessarily related to the episode but Wombat can now finally know the truth behind DuckTales Remastered lack of lip animations: http://www.reddit.co...r_of_ducktales/



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:40 PM

I mean this with the utmost respect for the lad, but the show is much better without Shipwreck.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:41 PM



Not necessarily related to the episode but Wombat can now finally know the truth behind DuckTales Remastered lack of lip animations: http://www.reddit.co...r_of_ducktales/

for the lazy

 

How much bigger would the budget have to been to have lips move with the dialogue?

We actually considered this at one point in our Batman game on Wii, which has had our largest amount of VO to date in a project. It depends on how you do it. If you're just talking about a single-overlay to create an 'open' mouth, then it's not necessarily a massive undertaking. Or if you limit exactly which animations can be used to 'speak.' But if you're thinking of lip animation during all animations, or a full range of mouth shapes for all the phonemes, it'll add up quick.

Short answer - it is something we've thought about before on projects, but haven't taken a stab at yet.


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#21 willardhaven

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:48 PM

Can't they just have a loop with mouth movement and either have it "on" or "off"?


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#22 Wombat

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:14 PM

for the lazy

 

I get that, if ducks had mouths, but they don't. A simple open and close would have sufficed. 



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:42 PM

Interesting that they didn't have the X1 versions of big third party games like Watch Dogs and AC4.

 

The Japanese Garden level was from Chaos Theory, the only Splinter Cell game I played.

 

My wife and I got our first Legendary drops on Diablo 3 on the 360 at around level 18 and it was really exciting.  From what I've read PC players had to wait a lot longer than that to get anything good.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:48 PM

Why do you listen? are you forced to? Would you like a refund?

Lol, I was thinking the same.

I don't play a lot of multiplayer games but I am excited for titanfall. I will be getting it for PC, of course. I can't see myself spending any money on a PS4 or XBone anytime soon. The WiiU releases are what I am looking forward to the most, specifically the new donkey kong country.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:00 PM

I mean this with the utmost respect for the lad, but the show is much better without Shipwreck.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:31 PM

Look forward to your continued GTA impressions Wombat, I get what you mean with characters forced to do things that seems against their nature.  I've found the three protagonist thing really works well with fixing this issue as instead of running chores for other people the characters do jobs for their own selfish reasons usually, which makes more sense with the characters in the game.  As a minor correction, the checkpoint system used in 5 is pretty much the same as in Ballad of Gay Tony.  For both better and worse GTAV doesn't really borrow ideas from other series, even the good ones. 

 

That shirt Rockstar sends is ugly.  The van keychain light is pretty nifty though.

 

John was good, but I like the dynamic of Cheapy/Wombat/Shipwreck. 



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:14 PM

none of you are getting Batman Arkham Origins? It comes out October 26th and I intend to play that and GTA V up to the PS4s release



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:38 PM

Wombat's first impressions of GTAV were about what I expected them to be. I'm not bashing him; to each his own. I personally love GTA, and I'm absolutely loving V so far, but I know I'm a fanboy and that everyone doesn't love it as much as I do. And it's not like Wombat was saying he disliked it, so yeah.

One thing, though: he was worried that GTAV wouldn't have mission checkpoints. I agree that GTAIV and its predecessors were annoying with of lack of checkpoints, but every Rockstar game since GTAIV has had checkpoints. (RDR, LA Noire, and even the second GTAIV DLC (Ballad of Gay Tony) had them. Can't speak for Max Payne 3 as I never played it, though.) So it was kind of silly to be worried that they wouldn't be in. But I guess Wombat probably hasn't played those games.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:18 AM

What John said about GTA 5 and how people think it's awesome right now then look back at it they will find it a not very good of a game. I couldn't agree more. I'm like 12ish hours in and nothing has blown me away personally and I feel like i was just suckered in by hype. It's not bad at all, but I wish I could enjoy it more :(. sigh.  Wanted to kiss his british face when he said that though. I was looking for a way to express how I felt about it. 


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Great show as ever guys, it was awesome to have John on the show and its a shame the timezones probably don't work out for him to be on more regularly, maybe he should move to Tokoyo so Cheapy can have someone to speak English to more often ;).

 

Shipwreck come back!  :bow:







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