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#1 wongjp

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:08 AM

NintenTom was curious about my live streaming setup in one of my "Request Advice" threads. So I thought it would be better to make a topic about it in the PC forum and share my findings... I hope that is okay! I'll edit this document should there be questions about certain specifics!

 

I just recently started getting curious about Twitch.tv, so I started doing a little research on how I could livestream my console gameplay through my PC. The big motivator/push was for the Extra Life 2013 Gaming Marathon on November 2nd :) I thought it would be nice to livestream my attempt into delerium for family & friends.

 

My goal:

1. Livestream console gameplay at 720p (1280x720) at 30fps.

2. Stream webcam video with audio (picture-in-picture webcast).

3. Or... stream webcam video with separate USB mic audio.

 

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PC Setup & Streaming Software:

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Console Setups:

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"Live" Commentary:

I'm going with a Plantronics "Rig" headset/mixer combo for my console livestreaming, which was released this week on October 8th, 2013. I had a Turtle Beach PX22 universal gaming headset, however I was happier with the Rig headset audio. Alternatively, I have an Audio Technica AT2020 USB Mic (with a foam cover and mic stand) if I prefer to stream my mic audio through that for commentary.

 

Details get slightly complicated when it comes to broadcasting with XSplit and streaming both game console audio and headset-or-USB mic audio, depending on how complex one wants to go.  I can explain my setup in more detail later.

 

What about multiple console hookups to the LGP's one HDMI input?

For that, I picked up a Kinivo 5-port HDMI splitter:

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B0049SCB2Y

 

That said.....

 

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Console HDMI Output --> Kinivo Splitter --> Avermedia LGP (from here, this streams via USB 2.0 to the PC and also has an HDMI out which can go to your HDTV or Receiver - and there shouldn't be any noticeable lag to the HDTV or Receiver, for XSplit there will be, but it was expected).

 

It's getting way late, so I'll update this more soon if there are any questions :) Thanks!

 

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Twitch LiveStreams at: www.twitch.tv/wongJP

Extra Life 2014 is coming: http://bit.ly/1nUR6fk

 


#2 NintenTom

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:29 PM

Wow I'm digging your set up! I'm very curious on what kind of hardware you're using for recording to your PC? Personally I use a happuage HD PVR (the older model that supports component cables). Judging from the first picture on your table, it looks like a happuage, so I'm assuming your model is the HDMI one?

Livestreaming seems to be more complicated than I thought with all the audio hardware and set up. I hope your monitor screen and laptop screen doesn't bother you at all while you're playing haha. I'm guessing the monitor is to show what your viewers are currently watching and the laptop is for your webcam.



#3 wongjp

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

Wow I'm digging your set up! I'm very curious on what kind of hardware you're using for recording to your PC? Personally I use a happuage HD PVR (the older model that supports component cables). Judging from the first picture on your table, it looks like a happuage, so I'm assuming your model is the HDMI one?

Livestreaming seems to be more complicated than I thought with all the audio hardware and set up. I hope your monitor screen and laptop screen doesn't bother you at all while you're playing haha. I'm guessing the monitor is to show what your viewers are currently watching and the laptop is for your webcam.

 

Recording to the PC is done via the Avermedia Live Gamer Portable, through it's "RECentral" software.  It gets the job done and you can adjust the settings/bitrate at which to encode. You can also record to an SD Card (Class 10 recommended for the LGP) via a slot on the LGP at the push of a button. It also has a "PC-Free" mode where it'll just start recording without the need to be hooked up to a PC too. You can set the encoding parameters via a software utility before doing PC-Free capture.

 

It's not too complicated. I just made it a bit more complex based on my goals (for instance, PS3 1080p output). I did read that the next gen consoles will have Twitch.tv integration, too.

 

Actually, the webcam I have is not pictured. It's a simple Logitech model that does 720p and has a built in Mic.  The issue with XSplit is that it picks up all windows Desktop audio. So, if I try to preview the live broadcast on the capture/streaming PC, the audio will get picked up by XSplit, causing an increasingly scary feedback loop!  The developers of XSplit are aware of this.   The laptop is to preview the stream actually!

 

My other challenge usually is this: I want to have a Mic while playing the game in surround sound. The problem that arises:  the Mic will also pick up the external surround sound.  So I have to wear a headset so that any external Mic doesn't pick up the speaker game sound. Or I have to turn the volume down on my receiver so that a Mic won't pickup anything but my voice (but this kills my original intention). 


Twitch LiveStreams at: www.twitch.tv/wongJP

Extra Life 2014 is coming: http://bit.ly/1nUR6fk

 


#4 crystalklear64

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:19 AM

A program that has been invaluable for me for all sorts of things, including livestreaming, is Virtual Audio Cable and the accompanied repeater. I think there may be a free program that does something similar called LINE.

 

In the case of wanting to record audio from sources without using the "record all the sounds my pc makes" setting, you can create a virtual path, set your game to use the path, and then use audio repeaters to feed only the sources you want into that path (such as a mic).

 

Repeating Line 1 to your Speakers allows you to monitor yourself without creating a feedback loop. Stop it when you don't need to monitor.

 

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#5 wongjp

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:47 AM

A program that has been invaluable for me for all sorts of things, including livestreaming, is Virtual Audio Cable and the accompanied repeater. I think there may be a free program that does something similar called LINE.

 

In the case of wanting to record audio from sources without using the "record all the sounds my pc makes" setting, you can create a virtual path, set your game to use the path, and then use audio repeaters to feed only the sources you want into that path (such as a mic).

 

Repeating Line 1 to your Speakers allows you to monitor yourself without creating a feedback loop. Stop it when you don't need to monitor.

 

 

 

I love it! I've been reading about Virtual Audio Cable, but this helps seal the deal for me.  Thanks so much for sharing this information, crystalklear64 :bouncy: Is that Kabuki-za in your sig? :)


Twitch LiveStreams at: www.twitch.tv/wongJP

Extra Life 2014 is coming: http://bit.ly/1nUR6fk

 


#6 crystalklear64

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

Yea, I got to see it in 2009 before the newest reconstruction started.


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#7 wongjp

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:42 PM

@NintenTom, it looks like this is a useful program for showing a clock or countdown timer on your livestream... Over at the XSplit forums, a very helpful user is answering my questions, so I'm sharing my findings here, too...

 

"SNAZ"

http://jimmyappelt.be/snaz/


Twitch LiveStreams at: www.twitch.tv/wongJP

Extra Life 2014 is coming: http://bit.ly/1nUR6fk

 






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