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CAGcast #340: Pray for Mojo

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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:31 AM

Cheapy still doesn't think much of the recent Steam announcements, Wombat has pre-order anxiety, and Shipwreck plays Beyond: Two Souls.
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Intro - Outro

CAG #340

0:30 Old N.E.S
7:30 Cheapy's helicopter ride
11:45 Show Feedback
11:45 - Day One controller
12:30 - Iron Man 3
14:15 - NeoGaf
15:00 Google services, ads
20:15 Watch This: Gravity 3D
23:30 - Agents of SHIELD
27:15 New Releases
27:15 - Beyond: Two Souls
40:00 - Pokemon, Skylanders:Swap Force
41:00 - Gas Guzzlers Extreme
42:00 - Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness
42:45 Mad Catz Mojo
47:45 Archos GamePad
50:15 Steam Machines
57:15 GTA V
1:07:00 State of Decay
1:08:45 Battlefield 4 Beta
1:10:00 Dungeon Defenders 2
1:12:45 ColecoVision kickstarter
1:19:45 Sony:"no one gains from console exclusivity"
1:22:00 Kinect2 and privacy
1:28:00 Cheapy's comic strip
1:30:30 iOS 7 losing iMessage text messages
1:36:15 Marvel Puzzle Quest
1:41:00 Cagbag
1:41:00 - Pick One: PS4 or XB1
1:43:00 - Puny hard drives
1:46:00 - Injustice Ultimate


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#2 Thevoiceinyourhead

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:05 AM

Thanks for the early bird upload Cheapy.



#3 thorbahn3

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:01 AM

To me a game needs two things to be a game.

 

1. A goal

2. A conflict

 

All games have this.


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#4 ILikePopCans

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:24 PM

To me a game needs two things to be a game.

 

1. A goal

2. A conflict

 

All games have this.

I disagree. If your are talking about video games, I would say a video game is just something you control and interact
 with. A game does not need any type of bad guy to kill or money to be made, you just need to move the media along with your actions. I know, I know, very progressive.



#5 Blade3D

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:35 PM

Do you have a better explanation of why you don't think streaming to android or steam consoles won't work well?


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#6 BetaDemo

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:07 PM

Tanks for the fresh cagcast crew!  The pool is closed but I'm still listening.  

 

Show feedback: You guys were talking over each other a lot of the time especially in the final 20 minutes of this show.  It's jarring.  Cheers.  

 

@Shipwreck: Any chance you and the Mrs. will be making the trek up to Columbus for this cultural experience? 

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#7 LiK

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:37 PM

Please stop generalizing GAF. There are thousands of members and posts everyday. I post and read it everyday. I love it there and helps me pass the time while I'm at work. It's a great forum full of industry professionals and enthusiasts. I've become very cool with a lot of people there just like I've become cool with you guys on CAG. Like I said before, there will and always be dumb posts in every large forum. I've blocked people on both CAG and GAF for being idiots. It happens all the time.

CAG and GAF are two of my most favorite places to visit everyday. It sucks that you guys hate GAF so much that you think mainly children post there. I don't agree with that at all.
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#8 CheapyD

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:40 PM

Do you have a better explanation of why you don't think streaming to android or steam consoles won't work well?

I believe it's a matter of available bandwidth in your network. If there are other wifi networks in the area, they can interfere with each other. This problem occurs in my apartment with the Shield.

CAG and GAF are two of my most favorite places to visit everyday. It sucks that you guys hate GAF so much that you think mainly children post there. I don't agree with that at all.

I don't hate GAF.

Wombat clearly doesn't hate GAF as he is on there all the time.

Shipwreck, who can get a read on that guy, he's like wallpaper.

Keep in mind that we are old so our definition of children may be different than yours. ;)

#9 LiK

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:58 PM

Well, I agree Cheapy. Wombat definitely loves GAF. ;)
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#10 wiiheat

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:02 PM

The Master System with the light gun was on closeout in Sears in '90, make of that what you will.

 

Agents of Shield Ep3 got so thick with the stupid that I had to turn off and switch to Brooklyn 99 halfway through.



#11 reetesh

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:35 PM

A Steam streaming box could potentially come with an Ethernet port. But that wouldn't solve the wireless (more convenient) problem though.

 

Things like MiraCast [ youtube v=b52zqNIeQso ] and WiDi [ youtube v=mnP0d0UbLGo ] use different frequencies/protocols (I could be wrong) just to prevent that problem, but even those suffer with similar wireless streaming problems (from my personal experiences).



#12 thesuzukimethod

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:17 PM

I love the cheapy comics idea....  1st one as is, 2nd one, i like the modification.  :)  



#13 MrGranger

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:29 PM

I need to put you guys in my next comic.  Of course everyone will have a southern slang and open beer cans with your nose.  Just like real life.

 

I think you'd get more hits than PVP these days with Mr. No Penis.



#14 guardian_owl

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:14 PM

A "game" game has to have significant player interaction. If you don't like the term interactive movie, there is also the, probably more appropriate for long-form storytelling, term "visual novel." To the Moon, 999, Zero Escape, etc. would fall more into that category. The "game" is merely used as a delivery system to tell a rich story and token bits of gameplay are thrown in to justify its status as a "game."

 

Nostalgia blast, my parents bought us the NES with Mario + duckhunt + the original gray light gun before they went PC crazy and colored it red. But we did rent a SNES from time to time, first game I played for that was Super Castlevania 4, I remember the sound quality and music being "the best that it could ever be."

 

I followed your democracy example Wombat, if enough people vote contrary to fact, then in the eyes of the republic an untruth is a truth. That's what Stephen Colbert makes fun of so much with "truthiness" (when one person knows something is true because it FEELS true, even if it isn't objectively true) and "wikiality" (reality decided by majority rule) and "not intended to be a factual statement."

 

They partially address why Coulson picks all young recruits in the second episode of shield, though I agree the show is pretty rough right now, I am hoping it is just because it is knee deep in the "case of the week" phase 1 that most mythology-based series go through and not that they don't have an overall vision for the show.

 

"Allow them" doesn't necessarily mean you have to Opt in to kinect based marketing, I would interpret that just to mean that one has the option to turn it off.

 

I agree with Cheapy, they are probably saving the 1 TB drives for the first hardware revision. Cheapy probably also has an easier time dealing with the 60 GB PS3 HD because he has blazing fast Japan internet and can easily re-download anything he has to delete if in the future he wanted to replay it.

 

Borderlands 2 did something similar with its season pass, though not on the same scale as Injustice, it only covered some of the released items. Season pass used to mean getting all the DLC, but game companies found a way to ruin that as well.


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#15 thorbahn3

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

I disagree. If your are talking about video games, I would say a video game is just something you control and interact
 with. A game does not need any type of bad guy to kill or money to be made, you just need to move the media along with your actions. I know, I know, very progressive.

Can you give an example of a game that doesn't have conflict? Just wondering.


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#16 jms493

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

I think Amazon is coming out with a console as well, correct?



#17 bickle

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:41 PM

I would like to contribute to a Dollar Slots kickstarter. In exchange for $25 and a broken ColecoVision controller, I expect 1 year of ad free access to the comic as well as a hoodie featuring the anti-Semitic owl. However, I suggest that the owl be changed to "Hooters", the owl that sexually harasses it's coworkers.

#18 Curufinwe

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:43 PM

A camera that's in your pocket is a lot less worrisome than one that's pointed at your couch.  But the worst part of Kinect is that it has increased the cost and reduced the power of the Xbox One for very little benefit.


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#19 bickle

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:48 PM

CAG #340

0:30 Old N.E.S
7:30 Cheapy's helicopter ride
11:45 Show Feedback
11:45 - Day One controller
12:30 - Iron Man 3
14:15 - NeoGaf
15:00 Google services, ads
20:15 Watch This: Gravity 3D
23:30 - Agents of SHIELD
27:15 New Releases
27:15 - Beyond: Two Souls
40:00 - Pokemon, Skylanders:Swap Force
41:00 - Gas Guzzlers Extreme
42:00 - Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness
42:45 Mad Catz Mojo
47:45 Archos GamePad
50:15 Steam Machines
57:15 GTA V
1:07:00 State of Decay
1:08:45 Battlefield 4 Beta
1:10:00 Dungeon Defenders 2
1:12:45 ColecoVision kickstarter
1:19:45 Sony:"no one gains from console exclusivity"
1:22:00 Kinect2 and privacy
1:28:00 Cheapy's comic strip
1:30:30 iOS 7 losing iMessage text messages
1:36:15 Marvel Puzzle Quest
1:41:00 Cagbag
1:41:00 - Pick One: PS4 or XB1
1:43:00 - Puny hard drives
1:46:00 - Injustice Ultimate

#20 zebwinz

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:14 PM

My favorite random/funny GTA V moment:

 

On the mission where you need to acquire a fire truck, I flip out my phone and call 911. While I'm waiting, I hear the fire truck siren in the distance but it takes several minutes for it to arrive. When it finally pulls up, the front window is broken out and the fireman in the passenger seat is slumped over.

 

I jump in and drive it to the necessary spot but I park to close to a wall so my character has to exit through the passenger side. He casually opens the door, pushes the dead fireman to the ground and gets out. MISSION PASSED


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#21 prayformojo

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:38 PM

After 8 years of loyal CAGCast listening, I am so glad you guys named a CAGcast after me.  HaHaHa.



#22 WhipSmartBanky

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:45 PM

Can you give an example of a game that doesn't have conflict? Just wondering.

 

Rock Band?


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#23 codenamelenny

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:51 AM

Rock Band?

The conflict is that notes are trying to get to the bottom of the screen and hurt your score so you have to kill them with the power of rock!



#24 WhipSmartBanky

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:17 AM

The conflict is that notes are trying to get to the bottom of the screen and hurt your score so you have to kill them with the power of rock!

 

Hah!  Touche!


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#25 gregleg

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:56 AM

To answer Wombat's comment about Ming Na's parents owning a restaurant, Chinatown Inn is still there, although I have no idea how good it is these days.  I seem to recall her brother runs it now or something.



#26 usickenme

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:29 AM

it's it time for Wombat to take a vacation and just have a Cheapy/ Shipwreck show?



#27 ianoid

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:19 AM

Hell (and the internet) is for children.

 

-Pat Benetar

 

 

 

I often wonder why much credence is given to random negative comments on the internet. 90% are probably from people under 17, 99% of whom are convinced they have the world totally figured out. It's silly that all public posting places (forums, twitter, comments) don't have better means to crowdsource the post blocking. If I could, I'd block posts from anyone under 25. That's right, I'm a geezer.

 

@Lik That's great that you have time to waste on GAF during work. Once you get busy with work/family/etc, you'll probably see wading through the huge amount of junk there to be a less effective use of your spare time.

 

 

And to make this post longer: great Cagcast super kung-fu action! Keep it up!


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#28 Icedus

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:17 PM

That Dollar Slots idea is so absurd it sounds like something Jim Sterling would scheme up.  I'm surprised it didn't end with Jonathan Holmes in a mesh tanktop.



#29 McCHitman

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:23 PM

On the discussion about the Injustice GOTY edition or whatever it's called, I agree with Wombat, that they should reward those that jumped in early for the game. The system seems backwards.

But on the otherhand, if we all just said "I'll wait till GOTY edition..." Would we even get the GOTY edition? If the sales out of the gate are poop, or the skin sales are poop I can't imagine them releasing another version later down the road.

#30 stevew2607

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:32 PM

Cheapy,

 

That comic thing was an absolutley HORRID idea.  Probably the dumbest thing I have ever hear on the podcast.

 

Wombat did make the right suggestions to improve it, but seriously you aren't going to do anything to improve the CAG name or improve the community with it.

 

You aren't doing anything to improve the situation, unite gamers, or reduce hate, just let it go.

 

It is good to hear you guys are definitely don't agree with what the Penny Arcade guys have done/ are doing, but that is all you need to do. 

 

If you want to make a comic go for it, but that topic is just bad.