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#1 pitfallharry219

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:26 AM

Yes. What now?



#2 The 7th Number

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:28 AM

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#3 JStryke

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:10 PM

Can't we get a snake down there?

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:02 PM

We use the bucket. Didn't Chris Rock teach you guys anything?

 

Getting cold feet about keeping my PS4 pre-order. Just don't know if it is worth laying down 500 plus dollars on a system with one exclusive game I want to play. I might just wait and get it after Christmas.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:47 PM

There comes a time when you just need to flush and move on.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:21 PM

We use the bucket. Didn't Chris Rock teach you guys anything?

 

Getting cold feet about keeping my PS4 pre-order. Just don't know if it is worth laying down 500 plus dollars on a system with one exclusive game I want to play. I might just wait and get it after Christmas.

 

I'd lay low on both of them for a year or so to see how it shakes out. I don't see a good reason to jump on either.



#7 pitfallharry219

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:26 PM

I canceled my PS4 preorder. Both systems' launch lineups are pretty bare.



#8 munch

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

I'm probably done with consoles. The biggest problem for me is that I despise the dualshock. 



#9 CaseyRyback

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

Supposedly the new dual shock is really nice.

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#10 Antiques Roadshow

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:02 PM

I'm probably done with consoles. The biggest problem for me is that I despise the dualshock. 

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 11:15 PM

The new Dual Shock feels really good in the hands.  The triggers have a nice response to them and the touch pad is very comfortably placed.  The analog sticks are a little lower than I'm used to but it's not uncomfortable, just different.


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 01:19 AM

I'm on the fence about my PS4 preorder as welll.  On one hand, I enough Amazon credit for it, but on the other, the launch lineup is pretty weak with Watch Dogs getting delayed.  I might wait until next summer for Destiny and Watch Dogs instead.


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:17 AM

Supposedly the new dual shock is really nice.

 

The new Dual Shock feels really good in the hands.  The triggers have a nice response to them and the touch pad is very comfortably placed.  The analog sticks are a little lower than I'm used to but it's not uncomfortable, just different.

 

For me it's the position of the sticks. I really hate how they are on the same line.. I much prefer the staggered xbox controller.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:17 AM

Utilize your Steam account.

 

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:16 AM

i need at least a year just to finish off my ps3 plus content. in the meantime im gathering ps4 stuff i cant touch.

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 01:37 PM

I've thought about going PC, but the initial price to get a decent enough computer to last me the next few years of games is just way too high.


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#17 FloodyFloats

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:14 PM

The one time i can afford to buy myself a console at launch and I'm not even interested at all. Might have something to do with college wasting all my time.


#18 CaseyRyback

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:36 PM

I've thought about going PC, but the initial price to get a decent enough computer to last me the next few years of games is just way too high.


Games are usually substantially cheaper on PC. That tends to help balance out a lot of the cost.

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 09:14 PM

So, to build a Steam machine that would play something like Batman: Arkham Origins, and that would not go obsolete in a year...how much you looking at?


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 09:15 PM

Also, I hate Daylight Savings Time.  It's so worthless and is much more trouble than it's worth.


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#21 SneakyPenguin

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:41 AM

They haven't announced costs for Steambox yet, so it's all conjecture.  To get a blazing PC that will only go to mid-range in a few years you're probably looking at around $1500.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:56 PM

For me it's the position of the sticks. I really hate how they are on the same line.. I much prefer the staggered xbox controller.


+1 - symmetric analog sticks ruin the game play experience or me. I think I am sitting consoles out until maybe 2nd quarter of next year- this video editing rig I am building should double as a nice gaming rig until then.

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#23 corrosivefrost

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

Why, 'ello, 'ello...

 

We use the bucket. Didn't Chris Rock teach you guys anything?

 

Getting cold feet about keeping my PS4 pre-order. Just don't know if it is worth laying down 500 plus dollars on a system with one exclusive game I want to play. I might just wait and get it after Christmas.

 

Solid plan.  For me, since I only have a passing interest in Killzone: Shadowfall, the biggest draw is the idea that I can use my Vita like a WiiU controller.  But even that's not really a selling point if the PS4 library doesn't have titles that interest me.  I'm planning on waiting at least a year, but even more likely I'll be waiting until a hardware revision or price cut this time around.  Let the library get large (and cheaper too) while piling up the PS+ PS4 freebies and make sure the HW is stable.  After 2 RRODs and 2 dying PS3s, I am no longer in the console beta testing business.

 

I'd lay low on both of them for a year or so to see how it shakes out. I don't see a good reason to jump on either.

 

Sage advice. :)

 

I've thought about going PC, but the initial price to get a decent enough computer to last me the next few years of games is just way too high.

 

This is where I'm headed... just need the mobo/RAM/gfx card.  If you pick up pieces here and there, it's not that bad.

And when you figure, if your processor is decent enough that you can probably just upgrade some parts as they need it when games come out and you want to keep pushing max settings, you're still ahead of the game.  The best part is everything is upgradeable/replaceable.  So even if you end up buying a new graphics card a few years down the line, you can likely get a really swanky one for less than the cost of a new console at launch.

 

I'm currently looking at a geForce 770 -- which comes with 3 brand new games that I can likely sell for about $80 and then re-buy the ones I want on Steam during a sale a year down the line.  I could be wrong, but it seems to run most of the recent PC titles at highest settings without breaking a sweat -- not bad for $250.

 

I could be wrong here, but a lot of times, the games that are coming to PC are also tied to consoles, with the lead platform (for this gen, at least) being x360.  That should also mitigate your experience on PC to at least be equivalent to the worst console port for a good window.

 

I think my current build will come in around $1000... but it probably could've been cheaper if I had waited for Black Friday deals instead of just taking the best of the sales as components hit prices I was comfortable with.

 

 

+1 - symmetric analog sticks ruin the game play experience or me. I think I am sitting consoles out until maybe 2nd quarter of next year- this video editing rig I am building should double as a nice gaming rig until then.

 

Do you have bigger hands?

 

I think a lot of the complaints I've ever seen about the symmetrical sticks revolve around people with bigger hands not having enough thumb clearance, if that makes sense.  

 

At least with PC gaming, it looks like there are a LOT of options you can use to get your preferred controller running.  I really wanted to use my DS3 on my PC, but it sounds like a pain in the ass to get up and running... so I just ordered a DS4, since that seems to work well as a "wireless" controller... but if you stick with PC, then you can use a 360 (or presumably Xbone) controller too.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 04:29 PM

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:52 PM

The 770 is a 680 right? If you are going 1080p it shouldn't be too bad, but any res higher and you will need to SLI. My 670's run at 1200mhz at full load and Batman probably still dips from time to time for me.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:30 PM

The time change has really killed our sleep habits. Not that these kids were good sleepers to begin with, but dear god....


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#28 corrosivefrost

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

The 770 is a 680 right? If you are going 1080p it shouldn't be too bad, but any res higher and you will need to SLI. My 670's run at 1200mhz at full load and Batman probably still dips from time to time for me.

 

1080p is fine -- my main goal is to have it act like superconsole -- so as long as it looks good on my 42" LED TV, I'm happy. 1080p should be adequate, I think.

Worst case, I can add a second 770 and do SLI down the road.



#29 h3llbring3r

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:32 PM

Do you have bigger hands?

I think a lot of the complaints I've ever seen about the symmetrical sticks revolve around people with bigger hands not having enough thumb clearance, if that makes sense.

At least with PC gaming, it looks like there are a LOT of options you can use to get your preferred controller running. I really wanted to use my DS3 on my PC, but it sounds like a pain in the ass to get up and running... so I just ordered a DS4, since that seems to work well as a "wireless" controller... but if you stick with PC, then you can use a 360 (or presumably Xbone) controller too.

That is a big part of it. My hands are large, but not giant. Indeed, I do bump thumb tips circle-strafing (and even during other motions if the analog sticks have convex tops and I am pressing them more toward the middle of my thumb pad) and an asymmetric layout is just more comfortable and intuitive for me- I know many left-handers that hate it though.

I've always played much more competitively with a mouse and keyboard anyways- with a controller I am mediocre at best. I was actually stunned when Nintendo regressed with a symmetric layout last then and again this gen with the popularity the wavebird had- I've ranted about this before but it seems to be a step backwards in terms of ergonomics for the grown-up gamer demographic.

I feel like I missed out on the PC resurgences, so I am hoping to take advantage of this build and jump back in. The problem is finding the time and getting it built.


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#30 CaseyRyback

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:15 PM

Metal Gear in the Spring is making the decision to cancel my PS4 pre-order harder.


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