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#1 RPGNinja

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 01:49 AM

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Man just one scandal after the next. Just like I said from the beginning that Obama was lying through his teeth when he said it was a protest.

I guess Hillary better forget her presidential aspirations when she said "What difference does it make if its a terror attack or a youtube video?"

Lol my god the American people are stupid to have this guy reelected again he is such a novice.

#2 UncleBob

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:25 AM

We had this topic once before. No one wanted to talk about the video deflection then, either. :(

Granted, we had a grand conversation about how we all knew it had nothing to do with the video... but no one really wanted to discuss how the administration was trying to put the blame on free speech and take it away from their murderous rampages across the middle east.
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:00 AM

To be fair Romney was not a better choice. For many it was a case of lesser evils. Personally I voted 3rd party.  



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:02 AM

To be fair Romney was not a better choice. For many it was a case of lesser evils. Personally I voted 3rd party.


It is easy to say now because we know he can never be elected but I GUARANTEE you Romney would have turned the economy around. I don't care if he dresses or acts like someone from the 1950s, he had good business sense and knew exactly what it took to get the economy running again and thats all that matters not all this other side distraction BS.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:06 AM

To be fair Romney was not a better choice. For many it was a case of lesser evils. Personally I voted 3rd party.  

 

I have to agree, though I was out of state and didn't vote at all.

 

 

It is easy to say now because we know he can never be elected but I GUARANTEE you Romney would have turned the economy around. I don't care if he dresses or acts like someone from the 1950s, he had good business sense and knew exactly what it took to get the economy running again and thats all that matters not all this other side distraction BS.

 

You can say THAT, but we'll never really know.


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#6 mrsilkunderwear

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:08 AM

It is easy to say now because we know he can never be elected but I GUARANTEE you Romney would have turned the economy around. I don't care if he dresses or acts like someone from the 1950s, he had good business sense and knew exactly what it took to get the economy running again and thats all that matters not all this other side distraction BS.

No, he wouldn't. He had a few positions which differed from Obama but in the end everything is fundamentally the same. 



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:38 AM

What are is the guarantee? A good economy or your money back? You are addled.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 04:11 AM

No, he wouldn't. He had a few positions which differed from Obama but in the end everything is fundamentally the same.


You are brainwashed if you truly believe that. He would have repealed Obamacare immediately for one which stands to take over 1/5th of the economy so no you are dead wrong on that alone. And just that one issue alone would lift a huge burden off businesses and get them thriving again. And I have not even talked about his economic policies.

Romney wasn't even my 4th or 5th choice but hes still 10x better than what we have now. Obama was barely a Senator and his claim to fame was a community organizer with no business skills at all.

"Yeah but but but... he went to Harvard Law! He is a genius!" Right... I am sure he got there because of his smarts and not through affirmative action. Which is funny that even after all this time he still won't release his college transcripts when literally every other president is an open book in that regard. What is he paying his lawyers millions of dollars for to keep so secret? God forbid he wasn't born in this country right? *eyeroll*

It's probably just the fact that he had terrible grades all along and it would shatter his image of being a smart guy when we all know the only thing he is semi-good at is reading from a teleprompter.

It really is hilarious how you Obama defenders keep dodging the topic at hand when he gets caught red handed lying in a scandal that involved Americans DEAD. You don't want to face up to the fact that he is incompetent beyond belief.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:31 AM

You are brainwashed if you truly believe that. He would have repealed Obamacare immediately for one which stands to take over 1/5th of the economy so no you are dead wrong on that alone. And just that one issue alone would lift a huge burden off businesses and get them thriving again. And I have not even talked about his economic policies.

Romney wasn't even my 4th or 5th choice but hes still 10x better than what we have now. Obama was barely a Senator and his claim to fame was a community organizer with no business skills at all.

"Yeah but but but... he went to Harvard Law! He is a genius!" Right... I am sure he got there because of his smarts and not through affirmative action. Which is funny that even after all this time he still won't release his college transcripts when literally every other president is an open book in that regard. What is he paying his lawyers millions of dollars for to keep so secret? God forbid he wasn't born in this country right? *eyeroll*

It's probably just the fact that he had terrible grades all along and it would shatter his image of being a smart guy when we all know the only thing he is semi-good at is reading from a teleprompter.

It really is hilarious how you Obama defenders keep dodging the topic at hand when he gets caught red handed lying in a scandal that involved Americans DEAD. You don't want to face up to the fact that he is incompetent beyond belief.

Nope, I can see clearly. He might have repealed Obamacare or maybe not, you know how politicians change after they take office. Also I doubt Obamacare is burden equal to 1/5th of economy. 

 

Funny thats how every politician is described. Yet when they assume the throne, priorities and promises quickly change. Obama may have been barely a senator but that does not mean he would be a terrible president, he failed due to the fact that he caters to corporations and special interests groups. 

 

Yeah I do not care that he went to Harvard. It adds nothing. 

 

I do not understand why you call me an Obama defender when if you read my posts, you will see I am probably more conservative than you are. Unlike some of republicans I know, I do not blindly defend the party. If I see them acting as statists or investing more attention towards the corporations instead of the people, I will let it be known. 



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 01:14 PM

Can someone explain to me how the president can unilaterally repeal a law? I must have missed that day of, well all the schooling I've ever taken...

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:12 PM

Can someone explain to me how the president can unilaterally repeal a law? I must have missed that day of, well all the schooling I've ever taken...


What he is actually doing is illegal. He keeps changing the law as he goes along and the media doesn't call him out on it. So in effect he is trying to repeal his own law.

Just the simple example of moving the deadline further and further down is technically against the law since the original deadline was in 2013 and the ORIGINAL law stated that there would be no employer mandate delay because he realized it was going to be a disaster.

So explain to me with all your "Schooling" how that is legal? Don't worry I realize you aren't going to answer the question.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:19 PM

Nope, I can see clearly. He might have repealed Obamacare or maybe not, you know how politicians change after they take office. Also I doubt Obamacare is burden equal to 1/5th of economy. 
 
Funny thats how every politician is described. Yet when they assume the throne, priorities and promises quickly change. Obama may have been barely a senator but that does not mean he would be a terrible president, he failed due to the fact that he caters to corporations and special interests groups. 
 
Yeah I do not care that he went to Harvard. It adds nothing. 
 
I do not understand why you call me an Obama defender when if you read my posts, you will see I am probably more conservative than you are. Unlike some of republicans I know, I do not blindly defend the party. If I see them acting as statists or investing more attention towards the corporations instead of the people, I will let it be known.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/101065202

"A number of provisions of the Affordable Care Act, many of which have already gone into effect, are directly aimed at reducing the growth of health-care spending, which accounts for nearly one-fifth of the overall U.S. economy."

As you can see Healthcare comprises of almost one fifth of the US economy and that is one of the main reasons Obama wants to control it so badly to gain even more power politically and for his power.

As for you being more conservative than me, I can't tell but you seem to be confusing me with someone else as I don't shill for either party but I do believe in massively smaller government than what we have now. We are just wasting a sheer amount of dollars on worthless programs.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:11 PM

You do have some points, Ninja. However, I think you could come up with a better way to say most of this stop. You kind of come off like a complete cock.



#14 UncleBob

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:43 PM

What he is actually doing is illegal. He keeps changing the law as he goes along and the media doesn't call him out on it. So in effect he is trying to repeal his own law.


Don't forget the whole "it's not a tax except for when it is a tax" line.

But that's for one of the many other Health Insurance topics. Let's talk about Benghazi. Anyone?
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 01:13 AM

You do have some points, Ninja. However, I think you could come up with a better way to say most of this stop. You kind of come off like a complete cock.


Well I can't really help how it sounds over the internet. It is like for the people who can't detect sarcasm online as well, people will just interpret it differently.

I am just pretty passionate about this and it befuddles me how EVERYONE can't see the same things I am seeing.

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:20 AM

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101065202

"A number of provisions of the Affordable Care Act, many of which have already gone into effect, are directly aimed at reducing the growth of health-care spending, which accounts for nearly one-fifth of the overall U.S. economy."

As you can see Healthcare comprises of almost one fifth of the US economy and that is one of the main reasons Obama wants to control it so badly to gain even more power politically and for his power.

As for you being more conservative than me, I can't tell but you seem to be confusing me with someone else as I don't shill for either party but I do believe in massively smaller government than what we have now. We are just wasting a sheer amount of dollars on worthless programs.

Ill need to read that article in the future. That number still seems far fetched. 

 

I agree with you on the smaller government and waste. But you do seem like a type of person who would support any republican candidate in the general election. I, on the other hand will not do it again. I think Romney was a terrible candidate so I did not vote for him, in 2016 if we have a choice between Jeb and Hilary then I will continue to vote 3rd party. 



#17 UncleBob

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:01 AM

Jeb and Hillary? Are those really the two main candidates being thrown about for 2016?
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:10 AM

I don't understand, you can choose between a businessman or a socialist and you waste a vote. Was he THAT bad? Worst than Kenyan-in-Chief we have now? It's impossible. At least he didn't want to force you to buy health insurance and encroach on your very civil liberties Mr. Libertarian. Or bypass the constitution. I think you're being unfair, there's clearly a generational disconnect for we youngsters going on but we still have to vote for the better of two evils.

 

 

Any self-respecting conservative minded young person is almost forced to identify libertarian these days. The absurd war on weed sticks out in my mind. Where the weed Nazi Republicans that brazenly enter the debate bring no knowledge of facts on the issue. They are truly ideologues and can't make the connection between politics and reality, not ninja. And I resent them for it.


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#19 UncleBob

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:13 AM

I don't understand, you can choose between a businessman or a socialist and you waste a vote.


It's only a waste of a vote if you vote for someone you don't believe in.
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:28 AM

It's only a waste of a vote if you vote for someone you don't believe in.

Profound but I sadly don't feel that can be applied to politics these days. At the very least grant me my freedom more than the other guy and I will vote for you. That seems fair to me. Not only do I disagree (Very American BTW) with the man in office, but he is forcing me to do what he wants. That is a big difference to me.


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#21 UncleBob

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:42 AM

Gary Johnson would have "granted you your freedom" more than the other guy (Obama or Romney either one).
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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:46 AM

I meant the guys that actually had a shot at winning.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:02 AM

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 12:30 PM

I just don't have the sympathy or outrage over what went down in Benghazi that so many Republicans seem to have. Kind of hard to drum up support for a foreign mafia that terrorizes the world, in this instance operating in Libya not only in an effort to overthrow the government in power, but also using various outposts as weapon smuggling stations for other conflicts in the region. That this criminal enterprise gets its comeuppance from the locals who don't want them there is really poetic justice, not an abominable offense against mankind.

It would make more sense for people who claim to support limited government to cut their losses and understand the disdain for a rampaging parasitic entity raining death and destruction worldwide, but these people don't really support limited government. They're colonialists with egg on their faces.


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#25 UncleBob

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

I meant the guys that actually had a shot at winning.


Every single poll from any credible source within 3-5 months from the election that broke down the polls by state/electoral votes had Obama winning by a lot (which he did). If you're only voting for someone who can win, your only option was to vote for Obama, since he very clearly was going to take the race by the time you voted.
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#26 panzerfaust

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:09 AM

Kind of hard to drum up support for a foreign mafia that terrorizes the world

It was an embassy, man. Innocent diplomats, great people. You don't fire shoulder mounted rockets at embassies.

 

People deserve to be called out on Benghazi, though I think it's obvious that Republicans are more concerned with smearing the administration than they are with actual justice. But they aren't wrong.



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 06:44 AM

I don't understand, you can choose between a businessman or a socialist and you waste a vote. Was he THAT bad? Worst than Kenyan-in-Chief we have now? It's impossible. At least he didn't want to force you to buy health insurance and encroach on your very civil liberties Mr. Libertarian. Or bypass the constitution. I think you're being unfair, there's clearly a generational disconnect for we youngsters going on but we still have to vote for the better of two evils.

 

 

Any self-respecting conservative minded young person is almost forced to identify libertarian these days. The absurd war on weed sticks out in my mind. Where the weed Nazi Republicans that brazenly enter the debate bring no knowledge of facts on the issue. They are truly ideologues and can't make the connection between politics and reality, not ninja. And I resent them for it.

Romney care? Bypass the constitution? He does not even understand it.

Asked whether congressional authorization would be necessary to launch a strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities, Romney declined to answer definitively, instead deferring to lawyers’ opinions.  “You sit down with your attorneys and tell you what you have to do, but obviously the president of the United States has to do what’s in the best interest of the United States,” Romney told moderator Chris Matthews. On whether President Bush needed authorization to invade Iraq, Romney again deferred to legal experts, saying, “You know, we’re going to let the lawyers sort out what he needed to do and what he didn’t need to do.”


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 06:44 PM

I don't understand, you can choose between a businessman or a socialist and you waste a vote. Was he THAT bad? Worst than Kenyan-in-Chief we have now? It's impossible. At least he didn't want to force you to buy health insurance and encroach on your very civil liberties Mr. Libertarian. Or bypass the constitution. I think you're being unfair, there's clearly a generational disconnect for we youngsters going on but we still have to vote for the better of two evils.

 

 

Any self-respecting conservative minded young person is almost forced to identify libertarian these days. The absurd war on weed sticks out in my mind. Where the weed Nazi Republicans that brazenly enter the debate bring no knowledge of facts on the issue. They are truly ideologues and can't make the connection between politics and reality, not ninja. And I resent them for it.

 

Yup not a racist there :roll:



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:53 PM

 

I never bothered to brush up on this , his choice of words is the scandal?


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:33 AM

Yup not a racist there :roll:

It was a lighthearted joke on the birther fiasco. To say he's an unAmerican Kenyan interloper. They say it's where he developed his anti-colonialism roots or something.


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