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#2101 pasports31

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:43 AM

If you buy it at 95% off and say an upcoming bundle has it in there that gives out separate keys...

...then there's an extra key to trade, sell, or giveaway. :D

 

That's as long as Bundle doesn't have ONE key (tier) representing itself for multiple game-keys.

i hate that one key tier thing. the sega weekly would've been so much better if i could've sold/traded a few unwanted keys.


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#2102 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:43 AM

I also think the PWYW thing on a new release can be alright, as long as you think you'll get mileage out of a game. I tend to lean this way towards RPG's - those are the games normally that I get plenty out time out of & really enjoy playing.

 

When I spend good $ on a game, I want a time-sink; value per playthrough; and/or heavy replay value.

i.e. Shadow of Destiny has around 7 different endings. It's about 5-10 hours per playthrough. I got every ending. Do the math.

i.e. ONE playthrough of Skyrim (without DLC) - which is still unfinished on the main quest, BTW - has netted over 110 hours.

 

That's another good point.  A lot of people go by the "$ / hours played" model where they figure that if you get the amount spent per time spent under a certain arbitrary threshold, you've done well.  Card idling has turned that on its head, though, since it's now hard to tell what time was spent playing games and what time wasn't.  (For the same price, I'd rather play a great 2-hour game than a mediocre 10-hour one, personally.)



#2103 Neuro5i5

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:43 AM

I think new guy just trolled everyone. Y'all talkin' on-topic about gettin' deals and whatnot. That's not what we do here, is it?
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#2104 pasports31

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:45 AM

I think new guy just trolled everyone. Y'all talkin' on-topic about gettin' deals and whatnot. That's not what we do here, is it?

shutup go eat your meatbball subs or whatever


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#2105 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:45 AM

Quick, everyone return to discussing what television sets they've owned.



#2106 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:46 AM

That's another good point.  A lot of people go by the "$ / hours played" model where they figure that if you get the amount spent per time spent under a certain arbitrary threshold, you've done well.  Card idling has turned that on its head, though, since it's now hard to tell what time was spent playing games and what time wasn't.  (I'd rather play a great 2-hour game than a mediocre 10-hour one, personally.)

But the thing is - "$ for hours played" thing is only good if the game's good-to-great.

 

If you play something mediocre at best that could have a time-sink worth of content - like say the ESO Beta currently has - and you just don't too care much for it - ummm....bleh. Not worth your time.


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#2107 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:48 AM

The $ / time focus also suggests that if you buy a game and never play it, it's intrinsically worthless, that money was all lost.  I like to think that there's value in the smug feeling of knowing you got it at a great price.



#2108 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:50 AM

The $ / time focus also suggests that if you buy a game and never play it, it's intrinsically worthless, that money was all lost.  I like to think that there's value in the smug feeling of knowing you got it at a great price.

The other thing is - buying a game to backlog can be important if you do want it, if a game might go away....for whether it actually might not renew its game-license, any music-licenses, distribution w/ a company, or any other reason so that it could wind-up "off the market".


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#2109 pasports31

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:51 AM

The $ / time focus also suggests that if you buy a game and never play it, it's intrinsically worthless, that money was all lost.  I like to think that there's value in the smug feeling of knowing you got it at a great price.

getting stuff at a good price is a rush. there's intrinsic value in that.

 

plus just having the game in your library is worth something, because you have the option of playing it, as dumb as that sounds. there's been a few games that i didn't REALLY want when i bought them, but i randomly played/played due to putting th egame up to a vote, and really enjoyed. if i didn't bite on a good price, i wouldve never had the chance to play such games.


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#2110 INMATEofARKHAM

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:51 AM

Out of curiosity...  I'm 1.74 short of being able to buy Shoot Many Robots on getgamesgo with paypal.  (They have 3.74 minimum.) 

 

Does anybody want a copy of Shoot Many Robots (or something else) and is willing to pay me for it? 

 

(I'll also take recommendations for cheap games to get also with Shoot Many Robots.)

 

Edit: Actually, you can only buy one copy at a time...  What the hell is wrong with these retailers now day?  (Do you want my money or not?)



#2111 Idiotekque

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:52 AM

What's funny about this is that you've spent infinitely more time whining about CS:GO than you have actually playing it.

 

Actually nope. I've put about 4 hours of actual playtime into it (for some reason Steam didn't count entire first play session, so my time played is off). Hasn't taken anywhere near that to type my observations and complaints. I reinstalled it yesterday and gave it another chance because I wanted to see if I could get any drops, played for awhile, continued disliking the game, and then tried idling on an idle server for awhile. Nothing there either, so I dunno.

 

Also, you're English! It's *whinging!

 

 

Actually, I think he's just being nice and answering/replying back...                                                                                                                                  

 

Pretty much. Zenii or whatever his name was just pulled the "No, the game is good, you just suck." line, and I couldn't help but reply to that. Deuterium made a civil, reasonable reply and gave him one back. I can understand the appeal of the game to some people, and obviously the game still has merit, I was just offering my (admittedly brutal) opinion on the game.

 

Internet = Opinions

 

 

Or in his case 'Honey let's say goodnight and log out in our virtual House in Perfect World. I can't someone is wrong on the internet!'

 

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Thankfully she hasn't badgered me to play it in awhile. It's so damn boring...

 

 

Saw this pic and read the expansion as Hymen of Chaos, and thought "Man, I know Perfect World is trying to cater to a certain demographic but they must be getting pretty desperate here..."

 

As did I.

 

 

Idiot?

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I'm nice to lots of people, just not you.

 

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That doesn't sound right. Why buy them if not to play them?

 

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If you're worried about ... DRM ...

 

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Don't take it too literally when you hear people around here say "we don't play games, we collect them."

 

That's true to some extent, because many regulars spend a lot of time monitoring deals and buying games, but they also play a few too... whether or not they will admit to it. It's really just a way of making fun of yourself for spending so much time on the meta-game of getting deals. 

 

Comparative to how many games we buy, saying "We don't play games" is accurate in a way. But naturally we play tons of games.

 

 

Neuro wears out keyboards playing Borderlands.

 

Motoki plays old lady death simulators, hidden object games, and weeaboo VNs even though he claims to hate weeaboo stuff.

 

Mooby plays 2deep4u indie games so that he can accurately say that they suck.

 

Spoder plays just about anything if it has co-op, even if it's fucking awful, to completion.

 

Dr. Sasquatch plays everything, all the time, ever.

 

And I play a random assortment of shit, but usually just end up getting hooked on games now and then (like Skyrim, State of Decay, XCOM, etc).

 

 

I never said the cards paid for the games they came from.  I've yet to manage to sell cards for a game before I bought it.  That being said, I've had plenty of bundles pay for themselves thanks to card sales, particularly older Groupees offerings.  But no, you'll never make back the purchase price buying a game directly through Steam, and I would never claim that.

 

Actually making back the purchase prices HAS happened in the past, OUT of the card beta. I believe Zack Zero was one of those cases (though I didn't jump on that one, had no interest in the game), Triple Town, and most notably Drunken Robot Pornography. You could buy DRP out of a 4-pack and actually MAKE money if you got the right drops. I made out like a bandit on that one.

 

Most recently you could buy Vanguard Princess for $4 on Steam and make $2.50 back on cards, or you could buy from some buyers in the Steam thread for $2 and actually make money.

 

Generally speaking though, most games have cards worth a pitiful 10-15 cents these days, so you're seldom making your money back.


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#2112 MinDRioT

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:53 AM

Doorways Chapter 1 & 2  is on special for $2.49 @ the Humble Store. Looks kinda creepy, good creepy. They're making Chapter 3 though so I'm hoping Chapters 1 & 2 to be bundled around the release date.



#2113 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:53 AM

getting stuff at a good price is a rush. there's intrinsic value in that.

 

plus just having the game in your library is worth something, because you have the option of playing it, as dumb as that sounds. there's been a few games that i didn't REALLY want when i bought them, but i randomly played/played due to putting th egame up to a vote, and really enjoyed. if i didn't bite on a good price, i wouldve never had the chance to play such games.

I own tons of strategy games considered classics - and I'm normally NOT one to play them.

 

For example, I have HomeWorld 1 + 2 on disc.

Right now, that's not back on the market...yet.

{stares @ Gearbox}

 

The thing is: I have a feeling one day, I'll finally decide to actually play a strategy game - and that'll be my real entrance into the genre and cause me to play MORE.


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#2114 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:53 AM

 

Out of curiosity...  I'm 1.74 short of being able to buy Shoot Many Robots on getgamesgo with paypal.  (They have 3.74 minimum.) 

 

Does anybody want a copy of Shoot Many Robots (or something else) and is willing to pay me for it? 

 

(I'll also take recommendations for cheap games to get also with Shoot Many Robots.)

 

 

 

I'm tempted to say Seduce Me and leave it to you to ponder whether I'm suggesting you buy that game or asking you to seduce me into buying a copy of SMR.



#2115 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:55 AM

 

I'm tempted to say Seduce Me and leave it to you to ponder whether I'm suggesting you buy that game or asking you to seduce me into buying a copy of SMR.

 

Could it be both?

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#2116 pasports31

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:57 AM

I own tons of strategy games considered classics - and I'm normally NOT one to play them.

 

For example, I have HomeWorld 1 + 2 on disc.

Right now, that's not back on the market...yet.

{stares @ Gearbox}

 

The thing is: I have a feeling one day, I'll finally decide to actually play a strategy game - and that'll be my real entrance into the genre and cause me to play MORE.

the odd thing about strategy games is that i typically look at the games in my strategy subsection on steam, and go "ehhhh..." i'm never in the mood to play one...but when i do, they're typically highly addictive. i occasionally have to just force myself to play one, because going into it i usually don't want to, but end up enjoying myself.


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#2117 Waggles

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:58 AM

Doorways Chapter 1 & 2  is on special for $2.49 @ the Humble Store. Looks kinda creepy, good creepy. They're making Chapter 3 though so I'm hoping Chapters 1 & 2 to be bundled around the release date.

Pretty sure someone mentioned that the dev said it was getting bundled soon. You may wanna wait a short while.



#2118 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:58 AM


 

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Are we here in Steam Thread Club turning into This Club...?

 

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#2119 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:59 AM

Actually making back the purchase prices HAS happened in the past, OUT of the card beta. I believe Zack Zero was one of those cases (though I didn't jump on that one, had no interest in the game), Triple Town, and most notably Drunken Robot Pornography. You could buy DRP out of a 4-pack and actually MAKE money if you got the right drops. I made out like a bandit on that one.

 

Most recently you could buy Vanguard Princess for $4 on Steam and make $2.50 back on cards, or you could buy from some buyers in the Steam thread for $2 and actually make money.

 

Generally speaking though, most games have cards worth a pitiful 10-15 cents these days, so you're seldom making your money back.

 

I did make my money back on Triple Town, but that was an Amazon deal that the majority of Steam users didn't know about, so it didn't tank the market.  I specified buying a game through the Steam store because once that happens, the floodgate is officially open.  Vanguard Princess was one of those cases where the cards paid for more than its share of the bundle.



#2120 Idiotekque

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:02 AM

getting stuff at a good price is a rush. there's intrinsic value in that.

 

plus just having the game in your library is worth something, because you have the option of playing it, as dumb as that sounds. there's been a few games that i didn't REALLY want when i bought them, but i randomly played/played due to putting th egame up to a vote, and really enjoyed. if i didn't bite on a good price, i wouldve never had the chance to play such games.

 

Very true. I have 700-800 games on Steam. I'd have a lot more and be over 1000 games like other regulars here, but I don't really have a disposable income, so I fund my addiction by selling a lot of keys instead of redeeming them.

 

Will I ever play all of the games on my account? Nope, but having the option of playing any game and any genre that suits my fancy is why I buy everything that I do.


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#2121 MysterD

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:02 AM

the odd thing about strategy games is that i typically look at the games in my strategy subsection on steam, and go "ehhhh..." i'm never in the mood to play one...but when i do, they're typically highly addictive. i occasionally have to just force myself to play one, because going into it i usually don't want to, but end up enjoying myself.

I do recall tried a Demo for strategy games when on sale - bought them day of.

Never to be barely touched again, hehe.

 

Sins of A Solar Empire - went out to Best Buy and bought it that day ($25).

Same happened for Civ 5, when it was dirt-cheap + $5 coupon on Amazon DVG during an EC sale one year.


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#2122 INMATEofARKHAM

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:02 AM

 

I'm tempted to say Seduce Me and leave it to you to ponder whether I'm suggesting you buy that game or asking you to seduce me into buying a copy of SMR.

 

I'm guessing the latter as they don't seem to carry the former... 



#2123 Idiotekque

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:03 AM

I did make my money back on Triple Town, but that was an Amazon deal that the majority of Steam users didn't know about, so it didn't tank the market.  I specified buying a game through the Steam store because once that happens, the floodgate is officially open.  Vanguard Princess was one of those cases where the cards paid for more than its share of the bundle.

 

True, but there still have been cases. DRP was a Steam deal only.


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#2124 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:05 AM

True, but there still have been cases. DRP was a Steam deal only.

 

I admit I never picked up that one, so I had nothing to add.



#2125 MinDRioT

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:07 AM

Pretty sure someone mentioned that the dev said it was getting bundled soon. You may wanna wait a short while.

Sweet,  I suspected as much. I can wait as long as it takes ;)



#2126 Detruire

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:08 AM

Now you're arguing just for the sake of arguing.  His last post to the Enhanced Steam Discussion Thread was two days ago.  He's far from being an inactive CAG.  =P

 

I wasn't arguing, but now that you've mentioned dates: the last time he's posted in another thread here was the on 20th of December.



#2127 keisukehonda

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:09 AM

I did make my money back on Triple Town, but that was an Amazon deal that the majority of Steam users didn't know about, so it didn't tank the market.  I specified buying a game through the Steam store because once that happens, the floodgate is officially open.  Vanguard Princess was one of those cases where the cards paid for more than its share of the bundle.

The first and only time I've made a profit was from HB11 when I lucked into a foil card drop from The Swapper after playing it immediately and sold it for $1.05 before the market crashed.



#2128 DPsycho

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:09 AM

I wasn't arguing, but now that you've mentioned dates: the last time he's posted in another thread here was the on 20th of December.

 

If you miss him that much, you should PM him and invite him back to the Steam thread.   :grouphug:



#2129 pasports31

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:12 AM

To contribute the the card conversation: you can expect each set of cards to get you between .25-.50, depending on the game/the market for it. Considering I hardly ever buy a game that's more than five bucks, that's an additional 5-10% off on an individually bought $5.00 game. If you're buying a 1 dollar tier in a bundle, if multiple games have cards you can make your money back, even MAKE money. The card money really adds up. 


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#2130 Idiotekque

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:14 AM

To contribute the the card conversation: you can expect each set of cards to get you between .25-.50, depending on the game/the market for it. Considering I hardly ever buy a game that's more than five bucks, that's an additional 5-10% off on an individually bought $5.00 game. If you're buying a 1 dollar tier in a bundle, if multiple games have cards you can make your money back, even MAKE money. The card money really adds up. 

 

We all remember the first Groupees Build a Doujin bundle with Cherry Tree High Comedy Club...


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