Beauty and the Beast (Five Disc Combo) $45 @Amazon

It directly from Amazon. Luckily, I was able to secure an order. Had this in my "saved for later" for 2 years and it finally popped up.

 
Considering this title has been in the Disney vault since April of last year, $50 is still a good price. It'll probably be another 7 years before Disney releases it again.

But in general, I agree that Disney MSRP is ridiculous.

 
WingsDJY said:
Considering this title has been in the Disney vault since April of last year, $50 is still a good price. It'll probably be another 7 years before Disney releases it again.

But in general, I agree that Disney MSRP is ridiculous.
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I'm sorry but I don't think $50 is worth it for any single movie. If Disney wants to make their product difficult to buy then I will continue to avoid them. It's not like their movies are so much better than everyone else's stuff, and most other studios sell at far more reasonable prices. I know I say this all the time but I just don't understand how people can pay so much for a movie.

I guess some people just take movies more seriously than I do lol.

 
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To be fair Disney remasters are first class. They are extremely impressive. Here's a comparison pic of BatB. Wait a bit and it'll switch back and forth from blu ray to dvd. http://www.darkrealmfox.com/dvd_bluray_comparisons/beauty_and_the_beast/beauty_3.html

More here comparison : http://www.darkrealmfox.com/film_reviews/hd-comparisons-beauty-and-the-beast/

It's like witchcraft and that's worth the price of admission imo. The 1990's shouldn't look that good.

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This reminds me that I should go back and double-check on what's out there for BluRay titles that I don't have yet and pick them up at some point, so we don't have this foolishness in the future.

I think it's most of the recent ones like Hercules and Tarzan, plus some of the previous release wave like Hunchback, Lilo & Stitch and some of the other ones.

This might be a list to use as a reference:

http://www.disneymovieslist.com/disney-bluray.asp

 
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Not all Disney movies go in and out of the vault. There's a wiki page with the list of most of the movies (under Diamond Editions). Keep in mind that the list only shows the main movie (ex. Lion King), but any sequels will also be affected (Lion King 1 1/2, Lion King 2).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_and_Buena_Vista_video_releases#Diamond_Editions

Peter Pan is the most recent one to go into the vault, so pick up that and Peter Pan 2: Return to Neverland now if you're interested in them.

Missing from the list are Aladdin (never released on BD in the US), 101 Dalmations (never released on BD in the US), and Pinnochio (released on BD before the start of the Diamond Editions line).

It's not 100% accurate (Fantasia/Fantasia 2000 and Alice in Wonderland are both in the vault, IIRC), but it's a starting point.

ETA: Here's another list. Possibly more complete: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Disney_Vault

 
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Disney films are timeless so you can watch them whenever. My kids are going to grow up on these that's for sure. Anyhow, I recommend getting disney blu rays as soon as they release more so for vault releases. Cinderella and Little Mermaid are now missing slips in my area.

I regret skipping over so many previous releases damn it! So glad Amazon magically had Beauty and the Beast back for a brief moment since it's one of the harder find. Snow white is the other monster I somehow need to get for a reasonable price... at least close to the originally MSRP as possible. Thank you Wings for the links. Just started collecting them classics and learned about the vault last week.

 
It's not like they're not going to re-release them as the 24K (4K) diamond collection at some point.  

 
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lol Some of us are old man. My uncle final version of these film was on VHS before he passed away. I'm 34 so these will probably be my final version.

 
Boy am I glad I picked up batb 3d over a year ago for $35 from amazon via gohastings (or is it vice-versa?). I still havent watched it yet but theres no way id want to pay a ridiculous price for it.
 
kayne2000 said:
seriously why does Disney vault these movies? and why are their prices so damn ridiculous?
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To increase demand. Prices are high because people want it.

I have the blu ray of this, but not the 3D version. I feel like it's the one Disney 3D blu that'll forever elude me.

 
kayne2000 said:
seriously why does Disney vault these movies? and why are their prices so damn ridiculous?
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In some way it is a good thing while other it is a bad.

Good

-Disney take good care of remastering between every release, very high quality and really shows the potential of the format it is on

-High demand, sure you pay a premium price but you can make the money back later because of the rarity

-not flooded with milkingb. the dark knight was rerelease 6-7 times in 2 years and collectors probably bought all of those release adding the total cost to much more than any single disney release which come out once every 8-10 years

Bad

-miss original run? sorry

-are able to charge higher on original release ($30-$45) but really non issue because you can easily sell them later and actually profit

 
Scorch said:
To increase demand. Prices are high because people want it.

I have the blu ray of this, but not the 3D version. I feel like it's the one Disney 3D blu that'll forever elude me.
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so print more of it? and in 5 years let the Cheapasses get their 10 dollar copies.

andrewgray said:
In some way it is a good thing while other it is a bad.

Good

-Disney take good care of remastering between every release, very high quality and really shows the potential of the format it is on

-High demand, sure you pay a premium price but you can make the money back later because of the rarity

-not flooded with milkingb. the dark knight was rerelease 6-7 times in 2 years and collectors probably bought all of those release adding the total cost to much more than any single disney release which come out once every 8-10 years

Bad

-miss original run? sorry

-are able to charge higher on original release ($30-$45) but really non issue because you can easily sell them later and actually profit
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who cares about reselling? movies aren't flappable normally like games. so those points are really cons.

I do agree the quality of these remasters is top notch. the screens of some ive seen are great and Lion King looked amazing when I watched it.

also I don't know who buys the dark knight 8 times.....but Disney could easily release one remaster now and then stop vaulting them and in a few years let the price drop or put it on sale now and then. Disney and Nintendo both....their releases rarely drop in price and they act like their **** is the best quality.....its good quality but they are hardly the only people that release good stuff. Disney isn't the only one to do good remasters. why is it I can buy the 10 commandments on blu ray(and one of the best remasstered movies Ive seen) for 10 dollars but yet Disney? nope Disney charges 50 bucks or more and if its in the vault then **** it because the price is insane.

seriously Disney could make a killing if they just stopped vaulting things.....its like a business seeing it has potential customers and saying nope "we're closed" and its 10 in the morning.

 
The vault is marketing genius in my opinion. They charge $45 because people will pay it since these are treated as limited release. They get consumers to pay full price instead of being in the $5 bargain bin. Once you are in the bargain bin it is so hard to really generate interest again in the future. The 1989 batman is being  released again for the fifth time on blu ray and no one really care about that movie anymore while Aladdin is still highly demanded. A 1960's movie called Cinderella sold extremely well and that's a fossil. It's good for them but whatever to us. Not going to really complain when we can easily resale them for profit. Some of the disney dvds for crying out loud can still be sold for a good amount even though a new format is out. Limited release could be good depending on how it's done and disney is it the right way. just my opinion

 
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I had purchased both movies on Amazon and paid $22.39 for Lion King and $21.99 for Beauty in the Beast 3D, I really don't know what the fuss is about.

 
kayne2000 said:
so print more of it? and in 5 years let the Cheapasses get their 10 dollar copies.

who cares about reselling? movies aren't flappable normally like games. so those points are really cons.

I do agree the quality of these remasters is top notch. the screens of some ive seen are great and Lion King looked amazing when I watched it.

also I don't know who buys the dark knight 8 times.....but Disney could easily release one remaster now and then stop vaulting them and in a few years let the price drop or put it on sale now and then. Disney and Nintendo both....their releases rarely drop in price and they act like their **** is the best quality.....its good quality but they are hardly the only people that release good stuff. Disney isn't the only one to do good remasters. why is it I can buy the 10 commandments on blu ray(and one of the best remasstered movies Ive seen) for 10 dollars but yet Disney? nope Disney charges 50 bucks or more and if its in the vault then **** it because the price is insane.

seriously Disney could make a killing if they just stopped vaulting things.....its like a business seeing it has potential customers and saying nope "we're closed" and its 10 in the morning.
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Disney makes a killing by doing exactly what they do. It increases demand because it's only available for a certain amount of time so they make consumers feel that they have to get it or else lose out on the opportunity forever.

 
goodness, I had a friend buy me this for a gift when it came out by price matching it without an ad for $13 to a clueless walmart employee.  I had no idea it was this valuable by this point.  I'm not planning on selling it or nothing, but I will make sure to call her up and thank her tomorrow, haha

 

skiizim said:
I had purchased both movies on Amazon and paid $22.39 for Lion King and $21.99 for Beauty in the Beast 3D, I really don't know what the fuss is about.
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Well I have absolutely no interest in BatB and I certainly don't need to see Lion King yet again, but I never heard about either deal you mentioned so it wouldn't help me if I did care. Depending on the credit I had on hand, I might've bit on Lion King 3D for that price, if for no other reason than the fact that I've never seen an animated movie in 3D before (not counting CGI) and I have some nostalgia for this film and am curious how it would translate.

I guess what irks me though is the outrageous MSRP and the fact that I don't like being told I can't buy some old movie for X years simply because Disney is "vaulting it". We aren't talking some niche movies with limited print runs, these are supposed to be classics that have had an impact on defining our modern culture and I just find it annoying when some big corporation takes advantage of that to squeeze out more profits. Hell, I'd argue that, at this point, the original versions of these older movies should be public domain at this point in that they've arguably become a significant part of our cultural history and anybody attempting to better understand the modern era should have access to them, but obviously that'll never happen.

Ultimately none of that matters though. For me it all boils down to cost vs value. I have a hard time buying any 3D movie for over $20 unless it's right at launch, and even then I usually don't go too much above $25 unless it's supposed to be really good. Personally I think the idea of spending $50+ on a single movie, even a 3D movie, is insane, but I guess enough people do it so that it's viable.

 
Regarding The Lion King 3D, I got the set new from Amazon just after Disney announced that it was being moved into the vault. It was a little over $25.
 
B&tB is my favorite Disney film of all time, and this set is amazing. Even if you don't have the capability or the inclination to watch the 3D version, the restoration job they did benefits the 2D version as well. Just looks amazing. It is far and away the definitive version of this film (including over the standalone 2D Blu-ray, which is what I had prior to this).

You get the option to watch it with the restored "Human Again" song sequence or without. Even as a purist I like watching with this included, since it was part of the original film that just got excised and since it was written by Menken and Ashman, it feels like it belongs. Also makes the transition between scenes make more sense (note the clever smash cut from the big splash at the end of the song to the Beast getting doused in the bath from the original cut of the film).

The menus also are extremely well done. You feel like you're actually drifting through a 3D version of the Beast's castle, along with the actual menus being comprised of sliding stained glass panels depicting elements from the story. My only regret is that all of the BD Live-powered features no longer seem to work. Seems like a missed opportunity since it would have been really cool to have tie-ins to all of the B&tB stuff in new Fantasyland at Walt Disney World.

I got this on eBay (new) shortly after it had gone back in the vault. I think I paid around $35 at the time. I'd probably be willing to pay twice that given how much I love the film, but YMMV.

Also interesting to compare this to the 3D version of the Little Mermaid, which came out later but feels less lavish by comparison (starting with the rather spartan menu).

 
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We need a disney thread to let people know when titles go on sales or warn when something start vaulting. Disney is biggest enough to warrant their own thread I think.  I'll do it if you guys want. Do you?

 
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andrewgray said:
This is the last run though so when they are out, they are out. I would jump on it sooner rather than later.
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I had PP1 from release as it was cheaper than it is now with an Amazon pre-order coupon, though I didn't have PP2, so I picked that up. I checked a couple of lists of what's vaulting/vaulted this year and I think I'm OK.

 
Guys, BatB is getting a steelbook release soon in the UK. I'd jump on that considering the price of the diamond edition right now. These sell out fast so be ready. Lion King sold out in a few hours when preorder opened.

I just bought the 5 disc version and still getting the steelbook.

 
[quote name="bickle" post="12032064" timestamp="1408808328"]Of course it should. The comparison is just striking because the DVD for Beauty and the Beast was just piss poor. It was was extremely compressed and was a huge disappointment the day it was released.[/quote]

Agreed. The Blu visual upgrade over the DVD was low hanging fruit and was going to be a huge improvement no matter what. The thing that surprised me was the improvement the 3D Blu version made over the first B&tB Blu.
 
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